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I said several months ago that Intel would be back on top very shortly. This is just the start. I'm an AMD user myself right now at least, I used Intel when they were better, I could care less what company you are, I go for whatever is best at the time. Anyone with half a brain knows that companies like this go in cycles of who is better than the other. Normally once one company starts to fall behind quite a bit, they just produce mediocre products while spending more time developing the "next big thing". Intel and AMD do it, ATI and Nvidia do it, they all do it.

You hit the nail right on the head. I just hope they will not charge a premium over this extra performance like AMD started doing with their XP line (IMO at least). I'd love to see the days of the K7 vs PIII / P4, you'd pay less and have a chip that performed as well or better then the competition.

I can't wait to see the final model versions of the chip and the pricing to go along with them.

Well, people were comparing the new A64's to the old Pentium 4 northwoods. No one agreed with me when I said they were comparing different generations...however the Prescotts came out pretty horrible...but yes. We still can't compare the two companies directly. However, a 40% margin on paper looks pretty hard to make up..

The FX-60 was overclocked, so it's not even being sold. ;)

Yeah, a the Intel guys (the ones who work for Intel) over at [H] were talking about how the platform is the limiting factor now. The processors are set to take off, Intel has to work on a new platform to keep up with them now.

What's this NGMA thing? :|

A quick search on Wikipedia returned the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGMA

Seems its related to the next generation AMD Cpu (the AMD K10)

Northwood and Prescott weren't really different generations, those were respins basically of Willamette, just like how you have Sledgehammer/Clawhammer, Venice/San Diego, etc. Those were all respins, not new CPUs as a whole.

FX-60 was o/c'd...so it's not even being sold? Wtf? Atleast you can buy the first part, the FX-60. Where the hell are you gonna find a Conroe at 2.66ghz? :rolleyes:

Intel's limiting factor is that crappy FSB.

NGMA? What?

What do you mean find a Conroe at 2.66ghz? Thats what it will be sold at stock, it isn't overclocked. What he meant was it was an overclocked FX-60 which means the average user doesnt have one at that speed, you can't buy it at that speed.

Conroe XE is going to be 3.33Ghz.....get ready boys, it is a show-stopper....

2.66 4M wil cost ~600, 2.4 4M ~400 and 2M cache conroes under that.

just like pentiums today.

2.9 conroe will be introduced Q4 and will have ~800 price tag..

saw that info somewhere.. xbit or theinq or AT.. whatever..

haha no, im just getting facts straight :laugh:

What's NGMA anyways? Do you mean NUMA?

I guess I misread the tone. :pinch:

Regardless of whether or not the two were spin offs, they were from different generations. Albeit the technology was essentially the same, but we weren't all completely sure of what to expect after the Northwood. Yet, there were claims of AMD owning Intel forever, before we even saw what the Prescott was.

AMD isn't set to release their next generation architecture for a while, so looks like we might have to wait a bit. Looks like they're in the same situation Intel was with the release of K8.

..and the thing with the oc'ed FX-60 not being sold...I meant AMD isn't shipping 2.8GHz FX-60's..are they?

edit: looks like Circaflex has it covered. :D Wow, this thread moves pretty fast.

A quick search on Wikipedia returned the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGMA

Seems its related to the next generation AMD Cpu (the AMD K10)

Next Generation Micro-Architecture is all I know about it. Supposed to help with the bandwidth issues..I was just throwing the question (kind of) out there to see if anyone had information.

Seems like someone at wikipedia screwed up, because I know it's on the Intel platform at least. :p

im more realistic of benchmarks for when purchasing products. i dont care whats the best at their high performance level cpus, i care about how their normal user level cpus run. i couldnt afford to buy their top of the line stuff, let alone two x1900 cards. this means nothing to me. sure their best may be better but ill never know anywayz

Come on :rolleyes: You're comparing tomorrow's technology to something that came out yesterday. Of course future chips from Intel are going to beat AMD's chips that were released last year! When AMD releases something comparable and Intel beats it, I'll give Intel the credit, but until then don't get to excited.

News flash for you..the CONSUMERS DON'T REALLY CARE!

Is a company that is in need of Chips gonna see who have "tomorow's technology"? NO! Is a serious gamer going to look at it? NO!

They need their chips NOW and who ever out performs, gets the sale.

Now the benchmark compared the BEST both companies have to offer and when Intel beats it, intel have the better chip end of the story...

All of you AMD fan boys (not saying you are one in particullar)..

GET OVER IT!

im more realistic of benchmarks for when purchasing products. i dont care whats the best at their high performance level cpus, i care about how their normal user level cpus run. i couldnt afford to buy their top of the line stuff, let alone two x1900 cards. this means nothing to me. sure their best may be better but ill never know anywayz

Sooo....what are you saying?

I guess I misread the tone. :pinch:

Regardless of whether or not the two were spin offs, they were from different generations. Albeit the technology was essentially the same, but we weren't all completely sure of what to expect after the Northwood. Yet, there were claims of AMD owning Intel forever, before we even saw what the Prescott was.

AMD isn't set to release their next generation architecture for a while, so looks like we might have to wait a bit. Looks like they're in the same situation Intel was with the release of K8.

..and the thing with the oc'ed FX-60 not being sold...I meant AMD isn't shipping 2.8GHz FX-60's..are they?

edit: looks like Circaflex has it covered. :D Wow, this thread moves pretty fast.

Next Generation Micro-Architecture is all I know about it. Supposed to help with the bandwidth issues..I was just throwing the question (kind of) out there to see if anyone had information.

Seems like someone at wikipedia screwed up, because I know it's on the Intel platform at least. :p

I think AMD is supposed to release FX-62s during CeBIT.

Yeah AMD is, I just hope Intel doesn't go all gay (which they will probably have to) with every revision of Conroe, etc..different chipset/socket..cause well. :p

News flash for you..the CONSUMERS DON'T REALLY CARE!

Is a company that is in need of Chips gonna see who have "tomorow's technology"? NO! Is a serious gamer going to look at it? NO!

They need their chips NOW and who ever out performs, gets the sale.

Now the benchmark compared the BEST both companies have to offer and when Intel beats it, intel have the better chip end of the story...

All of you AMD fan boys (not saying you are one in particullar)..

GET OVER IT!

Bravo... Well said :yes:

News flash for you..the CONSUMERS DON'T REALLY CARE!

Is a company that is in need of Chips gonna see who have "tomorow's technology"? NO! Is a serious gamer going to look at it? NO!

They need their chips NOW and who ever out performs, gets the sale.

Now the benchmark compared the BEST both companies have to offer and when Intel beats it, intel have the better chip end of the story...

All of you AMD fan boys (not saying you are one in particullar)..

GET OVER IT!

You probably worded that wrong. Since Conroe is technically "tomorrow's technology" with availability in around six months. If they used the "now" criteria, they would still be going AMD.

You probably worded that wrong. Since Conroe is technically "tomorrow's technology" with availability in around six months. If they used the "now" criteria, they would still be going AMD.

well that piece of...info would have been...err....helpful....20 FREAKIN MINUES AGO...

:laugh:

Still, my point stand...:rofl:

AMD fan boys...get over it :p

I think AMD is supposed to release FX-62s during CeBIT.

Yeah AMD is, I just hope Intel doesn't go all gay (which they will probably have to) with every revision of Conroe, etc..different chipset/socket..cause well. :p

Like they did with the last line of processors..jeez how many chipsets were released? I can't even attempt to recommend Intel platforms now because I don't know what's works with what...

We do know 975 chipset will work with Conroe..but don't know what happens afterwards.

I sure hope this thing is what it's hyped up to be. I need a rig before heading off to college...

Back to the good 'ol days, when the Northwood P4's beat the Athlon's for all they had :) Really have been waiting a long time to see Intel make a come back, don't take this as a fanboyish statement - they're just simply my manufacturer of choice when it comes to procc., wouldn't have it any other way.

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