Intel beats AMD with new CPU! Hell FrozeN?

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well i am a old AMD fan, i think that the m2 socket will make a significant difference, with teh use of ddr2 that mus of course count for a bit fo teh difference. not saying the intel conroe core isnt good it looks damn good. but i think as usual AMD will come out with a response that will kicks this ones arse, lol.

Shame i wont be available to afford one of these, what they gonna cost 2000 uS$ lol ?

I don't know why everyone is clinging to the AM2 boards. The main difference between 939 and AM2 is DDR2 as I'm sure most of you already know. You probably also know that A64's like low latency RAM and are not bandwidth starved like most late Pentium 4s. DDR2 is mostly higher latency and greater bandwidth over DDR1. So how is AM2 going to make a damn bit of difference?

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well I've always found AMD to be a truly better product, and it cost a lot less, at least where I am,

i've always found AMD to be more reliable over Intel. and I like supporting smaller companys..

What makes AMD's product truly better?

Reliability? Got any hard numbers to back this up?

This is a good example of how not to post.

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some of the posts in this thread are really funny.

Anyway the chip looks awesome I have bought a few AMD chips and a few Intel chips and some Motorola chips lol I don't have a favourite I just go for the performance I need for the money I intend to spend. The last few years that has been AMD.

This chip from Intel is going to cost - a - bomb. and I don't think I can afford a weapon of mass destruction. I hope this makes AMD release some cool stuff anyway as they seem to be allot cheaper in price and allot faster for the last few years (I am referring to the A64 754/939S & Opteron 940S specifically.)

If Intel's Prices were the same or cheaper then AMD's and the performance was the same then I would flick a coin simple as that.

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i've always found AMD to be more reliable over Intel. and I like supporting smaller companys..

AMD more reliable than intel :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Ok fair enough you can argue that AMD is a better product, I CBA arguing with the AMD fanboys, but for the simple fact that intel is up m$ rear-end it makes intel more stable.

Also i think the bar chart on the 1st page speaks for itself, go Intel :beer: .

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looks like a good chip and it seems intel have woken up to the competion, as somone else in the thead mentioned "lets just see what AMD have up their sleeve" as i think a new chip will be needed to compete with this, higher clockspeeds won't cut it :)

no doubt these chips will be very highly priced like all intel cpu's ;x

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salterbomb

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Skewed facts.. this is brand new archetecture, just wait till you see the new stuff out of AMD then you can make a comparison, way way too quick to judge.

Hey look its the story of Intel!

what new stuff? AM2?

AMD hasn't even been hinting of new stuff, just AM2 with DDR2 support. in light of intel just CRUSHING an overclocked FX-60, AMD better put their head back on their shoulders. they've gotten complacent knowing they've dominated intel for the last few years.

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I don't think many of you actually read any of the links...

There were several links posted for pricing and this is only Intel's mid end offering...and it's NOT going to cost an arm and a leg.

Benchmarks were done across several sites and anandtech even did one that did not use Intel supplied demos...on top of that Anandtech is pretty biased towards AMD from what they've said in the past..so we can give the benchs a little more credibility. However, we can't assume that's what we'll be looking at in Q3, but pretty close to it. It's pretty hard to screw up a 40% performance increase..

..also if anyone read much...anything, you guys would know that the next big thing coming up after the move to AM2 is the release of the low power dual cores. That should allow them to compete at a power consumption level, but raw performance is still different. We're not looking at the next generation AMD architecture for a while...so Intel should pretty much have a bit of time for themselves. Intel was in the same place when AMD released the K8...they didn't have a response till now.

I think everyone and their mom has popped in here now to say that "competition benefits us all". I think that's been established now.. ;)

Also, AMD's FX-62 is supposed to be 2.8 GHz and with no big architecture changes planned, the overclocked FX-60 is probably what we'll be seeing in six months. Then you have to remember the 2.66 GHz is not the highest end offering from Intel and the benchmark was ran with DDR2-667 RAM as opposed to DDR2-800.

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Once I think about it, I'm really really glad AMD came up with K8.

Intel would no doubt still be on netburst architecture at this very moment with no motive to change if it weren't for AMD. Holy cow, what would we have been missing without competition.

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it appears Intel kinda cheated? haven't you noticed that the BIOS for the AMD board recognized the FX-60 as an unknown processor ?

http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713 (cant direct link to image.. so just look @ the second image on the page and you'll see)

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-on...w.dailytech.com

looks like the DFI board was actually using a old version of the BIOS (one that dates back to 2005 and doesnt support the FX-60 processor) as well as the version that had Cool and Quiet turned on by default.

but i dont see how benchmarking a future Intel product to a currently available processor can be called a performance leap.. its like comparing a GeForce 7800GTX with the X850XT.. of course the X850XT would lose to the 7800GTX...

but yeah.. unsupported CPU in the BIOS level.. and cool and quiet enabled(?).. how is that proper to compare? o_O :p

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