Hum Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 BATAVIA, Ohio (AP) -- A man who neighbors say was devoted to his meticulously kept lawn was charged with murder in the shooting of a 15-year-old boy who apparently walked across his yard. Charles Martin called 911 on Sunday afternoon, saying calmly: "I just killed a kid." Police, who released the call's contents, said Martin also told the dispatcher: "I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years. Today just blew it up." Larry Mugrage, whose family lived next door, was shot in the chest with a shotgun. The high school freshman was pronounced dead at a hospital. Martin, 66, allegedly told police he had several times had problems with neighbors walking on his lawn. He remained jailed without bond Monday. His jailers said no attorney was listed for him. Neighbors said Martin lived alone quietly, often sitting in front of his one-story home with its neat lawn, well-trimmed shrubbery and flag pole with U.S. and Navy flags flying. Joanne Ritchie, 46, said Mugrage was known as "a good kid." She said she always also considered Martin to be friendly. Union Township is near Batavia, about 20 miles east of Cincinnati, Ohio. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha2004 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 omfg this is real? cnn heh. omfg... no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted March 21, 2006 Supervisor Share Posted March 21, 2006 Maybe they should check under the grass... He could be hiding stuff under his lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 That dude is bat**** crazy. Who knows how his sentencing will go, evidently there are VERY lenient judges in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
versiondub Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, I suppose it may fall under your constitutional rights to be a grumpy old man that kills anyone who walks on his lawn. Granted, this guy deserves to be jailed for the rest of his life, but there is something to be said about keeping people off of your private property... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kame Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, I suppose it may fall under your constitutional rights to be a grumpy old man that kills anyone who walks on his lawn. Granted, this guy deserves to be jailed for the rest of his life, but there is something to be said about keeping people off of your private property... No property is worth a person's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsolete_power Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This is not surprising. Some people are very perticular about their posessions and don't like it when others tamper with them. I can't say I blame him for what he did especially when he had problems with the neighbors for that many years. In some parts of the United States it isn't uncommon for people to kill trespassers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveMasterT Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 He'll probably plead temporary insanity and get off with a slap on the wrists. The only thing going against him is the sympathy factor... not only did he shoot a kid and kill him, but it was a highschool freshman... just started... not even established as their own person yet. It's pretty messed up all over though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted March 21, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2006 He must've really loved that lawn...:no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 well, I can tell you, that if I was that boys father I wouldn't let that old man see another day. If he does just get a slap on the wrists he better think about moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni_78 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Owning a firearm should be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E t h a n Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Owning a firearm should be illegal. It is for the most part here in Britain. Except maybe shotguns on farms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamsebjørn Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Owning a firearm should be illegal. I agree... :yes: But this guy should've been on medicine... losing your temper in that way is not healthy. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzbling Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Owning a firearm should be illegal. Don't turn this into an anti-fire arms debate please. I think it's messed up, you kill enemy soldiers in war, and attackers out of self defence, but not kids for walking on your lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoul2oo3 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 :o :no: Hope his precious lawn rots while he's spending the rest of his life in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin-ergy Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Don't turn this into an anti-fire arms debate please. I think it's messed up, you kill enemy soldiers in war, and attackers out of self defence, but not kids for walking on your lawn. Why not? If he didn't own a gun he'd had no way of killing him (at least not easily). I think the debate should be open. This is exactly why I'm moving back to Canada in a few years. Right to bear arms my ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chook Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ****ed. Up. Thats all it is. This guy... should never deserve to see grass again. See how he likes it with life in jail, all concrete. In fact they should ship him out to some desert where there isnt a blade of grass for miles. Sick, sick, sick. This is the age old debate... kings would sacrifice thousands of men to gain some territory. This guy has a massive possession problem... amoung other problems. You should NOT be allowed to own a gun. Nobody should, not even an army, there is no skill involved in it, no way of protecting yourself from it. Its a point, click weapon. It is pointed at a person, and usually, that person is dead. Doesn't ANYBODY see how that should never, ever, be allowed? No chance of defence, unless you have a gun yourself, but thats not a defence thats an offence. Guns are brutal, this guy is worse. Give him life, so he can see what he took away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebOrbiter Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 :o :no: Hope his precious lawn rots while he's spending the rest of his life in prison. I can bet you right now someone, probably some of the kid's friends from school, have vandalized the lawn beyond repair. Poured a chemical or petrol or something. If they haven't they will. :shiftyninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This is exactly why I'm moving back to Canada in a few years. Right to bear arms my ass... Well then move back to Canada. I own a firearm and love the second amendment that we have here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest craft660 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 only in america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlskov Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, I suppose it may fall under your constitutional rights to be a grumpy old man that kills anyone who walks on his lawn. Granted, this guy deserves to be jailed for the rest of his life, but there is something to be said about keeping people off of your private property... Well then move back to Canada. I own a firearm and love the second amendment that we have here in the states. Sorry, but then your precious constitution is messed up. Trespassing is no excuse for killing people. Here in Denmark you have to have hunting license in order to own a gun (and unlike US people don't go hunting with attack rifles). Sorry guys, but that's my oppinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancity001 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ^ I agree. Crazy americans and their guns. They only need them to protect themselves from all the other crazy americans with guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinFreak Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This kind of **** never happens in Ohio. That poor family... :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This is exactly why I'm moving back to Canada in a few years. Right to bear arms my ass... Um. Do you know anything at all about Canada? They have the right to bear arms there too. Gun ownership in the USA is like 45% of households. Gun ownership in Canada is 30%. Big difference, gl@moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin-ergy Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Um. Do you know anything at all about Canada? They have the right to bear arms there. Gun ownership in the USA is like 45% of households. Gun ownership in Canada is 30%. Big difference, gl@moving It's not so much about gun ownership as it is about gun carrying. Where are you getting those numbers anyway? Link me. Canadian gun ownership laws are more strict than the US. You're also forgetting about the huge population difference. So I'm way more likely to get my ass shot in the street here than I am back home. Anyhoo, my move back is at least 2 years away :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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