Vista Build 5342 Released - Official Topic

[Tech_Dude_5000]

That second sentence doesn't make any sense. Are you typing with your eyes or just using "the force"?

I was saying I just dont get the new logo. by the time i found my mistake, it was to late to go back and edit it, neowin wouldnt let me.

[icon123]

I have a problem getting the glass to work.

After the installation of 5342, and the first time windows was started, the glass worked at once!

Then I installed the newest nVidia Vista(x64) Drivers form the nVidia page (87.15) Then all the glass effect disapeared. I tried things like the Winkey-R : WinSAT Aurora, I saw a beautifull screen for more then 30 minutes but nothing changed. Then I download other (WDDM) Drivers form the internet (87.43), it was not WHQL. But also with those drivers I didn't get any glass effect.

The last thing i tried was to: update the driver, searching on the internet. After a minute windows installed new drivers (86.82) Wich where WDDM and WHQL. But also with this driver i can't get the glass to work.

Can anybody tell me how i get my beautifull glass effect back?

My system:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+

1024 MB RAM

Geforce 6800 GS PCIx

ASUS SLI Deluxe

Rating: 4

From 'Trance' in another thread:

"HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM

Create a new DWORD value named CompositionPolicy and set the value to 2, then Reboot"

This worked for me. I have an ATI Mobility 9600, which has always showed 'glass' until this new build. It was working fine and then I did a recheck on the system rating and on my next reboot glass disapeared. It also dropped from a '3' to a '2', don't figure. Its probably why glass stoped working. I did the above registry addition and now it is working fine again. Keep in mind though that you might have screwed something else up with all the drivers you were installing. Thanks Trance!

[Jazsun]

Any list of new features yet?

[fishrman]

Nevermind, I just installed the drivers off the ATI site and now its smooth as butter.

The 5308 drivers? On 5342? Hmm. I'm not getting laggy DWM, but I am on a 9800 pro 128mb card...can anybody else verify this claim; because from what I can tell now, my DWM is at least acceptable...[on 5342]

[Hallowed]

Have any of you gentlemen been successful in installing 5342 onto a nForce4 (C19) whilst using SATA RAID0?

[Grope for Luna]

I installed the 5308 ATI drivers on 5342 as well. Judging from Passmark Performance test, 2D performance is drastically lower and 3D performance is marginally better.

Anyone know how to make menus smaller? I tried changing the fonts but that doesn't work.

[Mannlich]

Anybody encounter sluggish performance when running Glass on latest 8743 nvidia drivers? Glass performance starts out great, with things moving smoothly and no stutters at all. However, after several minutes of use, the performance dips way down and things appear to stutter on screen. I am running this on p4 3.0ghz, nvidia 6600 AGP w/ 256ram, 1.5gb physical memory, 100GB hard disk. Thanks.

[trek]

Anybody encounter sluggish performance when running Glass on latest 8743 nvidia drivers? Glass performance starts out great, with things moving smoothly and no stutters at all. However, after several minutes of use, the performance dips way down and things appear to stutter on screen. I am running this on p4 3.0ghz, nvidia 6600 AGP w/ 256ram, 1.5gb physical memory, 100GB hard disk. Thanks.

i'm using the latest nvidia drivers for my 6800 and it appears to be running pretty smoothly... at least smoother than the WDDM drivers provided by MS that were installed by default.

now if only I could stop the sound stuttering and crackling, this build would be pretty decent.

[Mannlich]

How do you install the latest nvidia drivers. Every time I try to install them, I get a black screen and am forced to do a hard reboot. Also, I am new to the vista beta, is there any way that I can install my Creative Audigy LS?

[NemesisNG]

Anyone had any luck with this build using a ATI X1900 XTX? It's not got a native driver for it and just uses the standard graphics adapter driver. I've tried using the 5308 beta driver which does support the card, but every time I install and then restart the video performance drops to a standstill and the desktop is unusable.

Any ideas? Or is it just wait for ATI for a updated driver.

Using the basic gfx driver this build is stunningly fast to use indeed. Sreiously impressed with the improvement over 5308.

Nick

[NemesisNG]

Double post, sorry.

Nick

[savedandfamous]

What's this about a new Aero Express?

[Tech_Dude_5000]

^^^ agrees with So Scene, and What is Aero Express?

[Malisk]

Aero Express is the theme you see when you don't have a graphics card with LDDM drivers, and also in e.g. VMware because that doesn't have such drivers, or supports h/w acceleration properly. It's grey and looks pretty bad. :( It's directly comparable to Luna in features and lack of 3D acceleration use. Here's a screenshot of it in 5308. I think it was made a little brighter in 5342.

There's another more simplified version of the transparent Glass version in Vista Home Basic, and I wish Aero Express instead looked like that.

Edited March 30, 2006 by Jugalator

[daneel]

Installed it on a P4 Prescott @ 3.46ghz with 1GB DDR and Radeon 9700 Pro.

This version runs much faster than previous CTP release, so much that I wonder whether MS turned off loads of debug stuff on that release..

I reckon if Vista UI was made 50% faster then I would be quite happy with it.

Explorer is faster than before so it's getting better.

Sidebar has a bug when you change resolution, it will stay in the middle of the screen.

IE7 runs fine although I didn't do an exhaustive test.

Install should be much faster, I don't understand why it would take 40 minutes or more just to uncompress roughly 4gigs of files onto a harddrive.

I managed to install latest Audigy drivers after a couple of attempts.

I managed as well to install Belkin Pre-N drivers although this wasn't easy, I had to uncompress the sfx file, run the .exe in XP SP2 mode and voila.

Updated graphics drivers to latest revision from ATI website and it's fine although installing the control panel messed the machine up so had to force a reboot and reinstall again.

In the end I am less negative than before but I would appreciate effort made on :

- performance tweaking, 50% more reactive UI would be nice

- provide consistency throughout the OS regarding icons, fonts, forms to be Vista'ed.

Daneel

[fishrman]

So give them feedback through Connect and the Beta Client. Its simple, and yet so many people forget that they can do it. Unless your not part of the Beta, but then again, half the world had the opportunity and alot of people just stood there/were oblivious. That's a shame, but what can you do...

[RvXtm]

so,is this build better than 5270 ? ...i don't see anything new in the photos...

[cchasem]

MS Paint finally has a 'crop' feature. YESSS!

[RvXtm]

riiight.....and who uses paint to work pictures...haha,i don't use it at all,i prefer a serious editor...not a little microsoft joke :p

[Tech_Dude_5000]

I know this bulid has a Tool to make screenshots. I think its called "the Cliper" idk, any one have screen shots of that tool?

[SidVicious]

I know this bulid has a Tool to make screenshots. I think its called "the Cliper" idk, any one have screen shots of that tool?

[AltecXP]

Should connect show this? I only have 5308

[fishrman]

Snipping Tool.

so,is this build better than 5270 ? ...i don't see anything new in the photos...

Get out from under the rock... :laugh: 5308.17 and 5308.60 have already come and gone, this is a February CTP Refresh, there are changes -- 5270 was never staged, whilst 5308.17 and this build are; long story short...staged installs will lead to faster installs (generally). The sidebar is now included, unlike [if I remember correctly] 5270. They've added new sample pictures, small res. though (for now.) Also they've added a myriad of placeholders for true wallpapers. The little animation in the explorer window has been added (people are calling it the "v"...forgot MSFT's real name for it.) Inkball has been ported from Tablet PC Edition 2005 [WinXP]....the MPEG-2 Codec is now included in WMP11 by default (if I remember correclty.)

Yes, it is better than 5270, and performance-wise, its lovely in comparison to both iterations of 5308 that they spat out to testers. :D

Should connect show this? I only have 5308

Are you a TAP-program member? Supposedly, 5342 has only reached Tech. Beta testers at this point; no word on TAP and/or MSDN releases (wait, someone confirm MSDN for me? :huh: )

If you joined through accepting the IIS 7.0 Beta, it was supposedly a messup in the system. All those who were inadvertantly allowed in, are expected to be kicked from the beta. This is speculation, but more than one respected member has confirmed it.

[Tech_Dude_5000]

Thanks SidVicious & fisherman909 I knew it was something like that, I got the name worng. but oh well.

[Ji@nBing]

MS Paint finally has a 'crop' feature. YESSS!

Actually the standard photo viewer has it now too, as well as some auto correction and other features.