Apple Boot Camp

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Alladaskill17

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I always used a PC... but now im thinking about this idea of using a mac (because of the power?) with windows for some programs/games.

My question! (i dont know anything about macs...) Can someone tell me the equivalent in PC of a iMac 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM? i was thinking of upgrading my pc to a $3,500 DELL pc... but now, im not sure from which one im going to get the best performace.. (i always like to paid for the "best")

* I run programs like photoshop, Maya, and some video editiing. Also, sometimes i run this programs at the same time.. and always is a pain in the... thats why i need more power.

thanks!

Idk the equivalent but OMG! With that budget do yourself a MASSIVE favor and just buy the Macbook Pro!!!! Amazingly powerful, get 2GB of RAM, and the graphics are amazing + new windows installs...omg just dont even waste time on DELL.

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Well. I managed last night to get Boot Camp to partition my HD but it has also corrupted by OSX partition so now I cant boot OSX. Disk utility can't repair the drive nor can running 'fsck' in single-user mode. I am also having trouble installing XP, can't read my CD properly for some reason.

So right now. I am without my MBP with no OSX and no XP. I'm in work typing this. :( :cry:

Did you get things restored? How much of your free space did you allocate to XP? Did you backup before trying this?

I have an 80GB HD (74GB formatted) and I allocated about 20GB to XP leaving 21 GB free on the OS X partition.

It is possible that you allocated too much free space and overwrote your kernel and/or your file system catalog files. Have you tried a repair install with your OS X installer disk?

I did not backup before trying but luckily everything went fine.

For anyone trying this, be sure to backup your data first and deauthorize your iTunes (assuming you bought iTMS songs) before trying this. Remember, this is beta software.

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.Neo

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Anyone tried Parallels yet? Supposed to be just as good, near native speeds while running virtually any x86 OS Inside OSX ...no reboots.

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I am curious people's experiences with this...

Well it can't be as good as running Windows natively on your Mac since you'll have Mac OS X running in the background. That means your Mac has to keep two systems running at the same time: Double the CPU, RAM, GPU usage. It might work just fine with relatively simple tasks like Microsoft Office or a BitTorrent Client, but gaming or heavy video (etc.) editing is a whole different story.

Boot Camp itself is nothing more than a nice Windows-on-your-Mac setup wizard, the firmware update is what actually allows Windows to run on your Intel Mac.

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.Neo

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It's supposed to be quite advanced, and nearly native by leveraging the intel core duo virtualization technology that's built into the chip...I will post later about my experiences with it.

It can be very advanced in the sense that there is hardly any speed loss in the emulation process, but you can't go around the fact Mac OS X and all of it's services are still running too. That's the reason why it will be never near as fast as running Windows natively on your Mac.

It's safe to say that most computers aren't capable of running two operating systems at the same time while also playing a high-end game for example.

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well yes, I never was even implying you could render in autocad or maya while playing oblivion with no performance hit...but, any serious gamer would never try that anyways. Virtualization is not geared towards gamers or hardcore cpu intensive programs. This is meant for those who use OSX for 90% of there needs and then need to use MS Access for example....most "normal" programs will bearable under virtualization.

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Anyone tried Parallels yet? Supposed to be just as good, near native speeds while running virtually any x86 OS Inside OSX ...no reboots.

Parallels

I am curious people's experiences with this...

I just installed it and don't like it. It is waaay faster than VPC7 on my powerbook, but still nothing like native. There is visible lag on my duo core mini and i have 2gb of ram (1gb dedicated to the vm). Also I cant get it to recognize the physical cdrom, i had to point it to an iso to get it to install. I will stick with dual booting for now.

I would like to have a wine port that works so i can just run outlook 2003 in osx. that is the only frickin' windows app that i want!

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.Neo

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I just installed and have a few questions, is there anyway to stop the windows ntfs volume from appearing in finder without ejecting it everytime? and can i change the osx icons of the windows volume somehow?

Can't you change the icon by going to the Info screen (cmd+I), select the icon preview above "Spotlight Comments" and paste another icon on it? If so you can replace the icon by a 100% transparent one and call the Windows HD "hit spacebar once", it will be virtually invisible that way.

If not you'll have to do it to a temporarily folder (change the icon of it), boot into Windows XP and replace the Windows HD's DSStore file with the one from the temporarily folder. You may have to make Windows XP show all hidden files but it should work.

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Can't you change the icon by going to the Info screen (cmd+I), select the icon preview above "Spotlight Comments" and paste another icon on it?

You can't do that because OSX is unable to write to an NTFS partition, but I'll give the other idea a whirl and see how it turns out.

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Guol

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^ haha all the Apple stuff :p

Can someone please answer:

How does XP run compared to OSX on the same machine? Similar speeds?

And how does XP on Mac hardware compare to XP on non-Mac hardware with similar specs?

It would be awesome if that 'Rosetta' rumour was actually in development ^_^

I'm sure this whole Boot Camp thing is oging to turn out to be one great move by Apple...

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^ haha all the Apple stuff :p

Can someone please answer:

How does XP run compared to OSX on the same machine? Similar speeds?

And how does XP on Mac hardware compare to XP on non-Mac hardware with similar specs?

It would be awesome if that 'Rosetta' rumour was actually in development ^_^

I'm sure this whole Boot Camp thing is oging to turn out to be one great move by Apple...

XP seems to run about the same, if not faster than OSX on my Mini, Core Solo 1.5 GHz with 512 MB of ram. And it runsn a little bit slower on the mini than it did on my Athlon 64 2800 with a gig of ram.

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Anyone tried Parallels yet? Supposed to be just as good, near native speeds while running virtually any x86 OS Inside OSX ...no reboots.

Parallels

I am curious people's experiences with this...

Parallels runs very fast. It certainly takes advantage of CPU Virtualization. Its very near native speed. Pity it doesnt take advantage of the video card. Maybe I could try installing the drivers that Apple provides with Boot Camp. :whistle:

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