Water fuel? HHO Gas? Fuel Cells?

[Rob2687]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OO_WrdvvIk...ch=water%20fuel

Were saved!

Or are we?....

[gfsdgfsdgfshgdgd]

nah, you still need to produce the electricity for his special electrolysis process, no such thing as free energy :p

but its a nice way of carrying around compact fuel

[neufuse Veteran]

well you dont need oil and coal to make electric... just use solar, hydro and wind power

[Shof]

they are already cars running on fast food grease :)

[BigPaul2006]

that dude had a car go 100 miles on a few ounces...if he can do that...and he's in talks with the gov about building a water powered hummer...maybe this could be big

[Bawx]

This man and his invention will change the World.

[5Horizons]

Wow, that's pretty cool. Thanks for the link.

I sure wouldn't mind using water to power my car ;)

[Jaded]

We're never going to see anything come of this like all the other 'alternative fuel' inventions. It seems every couple years or so, someone comes up with this new invention that gives an alternative source of power/fuel, it is then bought up by either an auto maker or the government then never seen again.

Also I imagine this needs distilled water, or at the very least some sort of clean water that does not come from a tap.

[.Neo]

Fuel Cell Technology is pretty much the answer to the fossil fuel problem.

[BigPaul2006]

distilled water is cheaper then gas

[Rob2687]

Yeah...I guess they've probably already got a sniper looking to pick this guy off any second now.

[PNWDweller]

Plus you can make your own distilled water at home by boiling the water, then collecting the steam (steam is the distilled water). (Expensive as far as electricity on a large scale) but works in a pinch should say the new HHO station (water station to replace gas) ran out of water. :)

[neufuse Veteran]

Plus you can make your own distilled water at home by boiling the water, then collecting the steam (steam is the distilled water). (Expensive as far as electricity on a large scale) but works in a pinch should say the new HHO station (water station to replace gas) ran out of water. :)

Also Illegal in the USA.. its illegal to own an operate a still...

[Bawx]

It's illegal to boil water and capture steam?

[Shof]

how so if water is free?

[illicit]

Were saved!

Or are we?....

Heh, that was pretty cool.

[Jaded]

Also Illegal in the USA.. its illegal to own an operate a still...

How do you figure? It is for the purposes of producing an alcoholic beverage, but not if end result is just going to be water. If you think about it, that would mean anyone using a kettle, iron, dishwasher, etc could be arrested and charged.

[Fighter-X]

Hmm, if this actually becomes used by everyone then I better start investing stocks on water distilleries :cool:

[Jaded]

But here is the main question. If this does happen, will bottled water still be more expensive than 'gas'?

[NightmarE D]

nah, you still need to produce the electricity for his special electrolysis process, no such thing as free energy :p

but its a nice way of carrying around compact fuel

"Free Energy" what scientists call "dark matter" does exist. You know all the energy released when an a-bomb explodes? That's what they call dark matter. Figuring out a way to harness it safely and use it as an energy source is where it gets tricky. If we could only manage to harness that in a good way instead of using it to destroy :no: It's been known for years that it could be used as an energy source. You're pulling the energy directly from the air...well everything around you actually. You can fart and power a house.

BTW there's been a few people in history to get a car running on only water. Weird thing is that they usually vanished after making it known to the government ;)

Here's another guy to have figured it out. Only this time it's known about publically. But what's the first thing the government wants it for? MILITARY USE :angry: Tell me that isn't BS

But if you own a diesel car just pour some french frie oil in the tank and there's you some fuel

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Here's the deal...

Yes, by using electricity you can extract the Hydrogen from water leaving a waste product of oxygen (which as waste products go, isn't too bad).

Hydrogen can then be used to power a fuel cell vehicle like the forthcoming Honda FCX. Fuel cell vehicles also have very clean emissions.

The only problem is that fossil fuels are often used to generate the electricity used to power the process that separates the hydrogen from water.

If you want this to be a real solution (that actually reduces dependence on mid-east oil) then you would need to invest in greener electricity-generating options (solar, wind, hydro, etc...) to power the hypdrogen collection process.

[nwBen]

Here's the deal...

Yes, by using electricity you can extract the Hydrogen from water leaving a waste product of oxygen (which as waste products go, isn't too bad).

Hydrogen can then be used to power a fuel cell vehicle like the forthcoming Honda FCX. Fuel cell vehicles also have very clean emissions.

The only problem is that fossil fuels are often used to generate the electricity used to power the process that separates the hydrogen from water.

If you want this to be a real solution (that actually reduces dependence on mid-east oil) then you would need to invest in greener electricity-generating options (solar, wind, hydro, etc...) to power the hypdrogen collection process.

That may be true, but at least it's cutting down on emissions from the consumer end. So essentially, it's a step in the right direction until somebody comes up with a way to generate the electricity without the fossil fuels.

[jus1haz2]

wtf its not illegal to boil water.

[casanova]

you know the car in Knight Rider KITT ran on water

[Malisk]

"Free Energy" what scientists call "dark matter" does exist. You know all the energy released when an a-bomb explodes? That's what they call dark matter.

Dark matter isn't what's released in nuclear explosions. Dark matter is the yet unknown matter that causes graivty to hold deep space objects together, especially noticeable on a large scale. I.e. what holds galaxies together, as the observed matter is according to theories too small. Therefore, there must be a hypothetical "dark matter" as well.

The energy released when an atomic bomb explodes is rather well documented and understood and has little, if anything, to do with dark matter. It's mostly about thermal radiation and one can read more here.

And no, according to current theroies, free energy exist nowhere, not in dark matter, atomic bombs (these simply release potential energy in the atomic nucleus itself), or anywhere else. Free energy would violate very fundamental physical theories.

If we could only manage to harness that in a good way instead of using it to destroy :no:

That's called nuclear reactors. :p

That's controlled nuclear reactions, as opposed to the uncontrolled ones you're seeing in atomic bombs. Guess why these provide enormous amounts of energy from relatively little raw material. Nuclear reactors split atoms too, just like the bombs, but with humans in control, besides with meltdown disasters. ;)

Edited May 17, 2006 by Jugalator