Windows Vista Build 5456 Released

[Slimy]

^ I must agree with you there. 5456 is still buggy but it is much more stable and hasn't crashed on me yet (unlike the public build which would crash every time i wanted to play a video or a sound file).

[Deihmos]

this bulid isn't plubic. i know, it should have been. a lot of talk is around saying this new bulid should have been the plubic bulid.

It's not public so I cannot get it? I don't see anything wrong since the beta is basically free. Can someone send me a message on where I can get this. I found teh 32bit but I want to try the 64bit. The public beta has so much bugs i don't see why they released it.

[Imaginos]

It's not public so I cannot get it? I don't see anything wrong since the beta is basically free. Can someone send me a message on where I can get this. I found teh 32bit but I want to try the 64bit. The public beta has so much bugs i don't see why they released it.

Your questions were answered on the first page of this thread.

Pro Tip: Read the entire thread first. Then post if you have something to add.

[Joni_78]

That's not the way to do it. File your bugs about the crashes, but continue to fight the storm. If every tester did that when they had showstopper bugs, then not alot of the would get fixed; not would they?

Yeah I sent bug reports. Main reason why I had to go back to B2 was that there were so many new bugs in Media Center that it was impossible to use it. Windows itself was really stable and alot faster than B2.

[medafor]

Yea I think its still lame, Microsoft needs to hire some real designers, or hire a better person to overlook them, cuz whoevers fault it is, everything is lookin like crap. This OS has def took a turn for the worse.

I am a "REAL" designer, I think vista looks great. Be more specific, what dont you like. I think your avatar is tacky, but thats just my opinion, hehe.

[Tech_Dude_5000]

It's not public so I cannot get it? I don't see anything wrong since the beta is basically free. Can someone send me a message on where I can get this. I found teh 32bit but I want to try the 64bit. The public beta has so much bugs i don't see why they released it.

Take Imaginos advice:

Your questions were answered on the first page of this thread.

Pro Tip: Read the entire thread first. Then post if you have something to add.

now I know reading 13+ pages is hard but its worth it. and on every page theres at least one post that says its NOT public.you will just have to wait till the public RC1 bulid which should come out in late july / early august.

:)

[Maleko]

I think your situation is just unique.... since every other review on the net for build 5456 indicates that it's faster than ever taking around 20-30 minutes to install.

Installation is faster, I said that an upgrade install was slower, not a clean install. The clean install is much faster than any other build that I have used.

[richardsim7]

Wow, this new build looks great, and the fact that I can use my beta 2 key to install and activate it is even better ;)

-Rich-

[Deihmos]

Installation is faster, I said that an upgrade install was slower, not a clean install. The clean install is much faster than any other build that I have used.

I know it's not public but that does not mean it cannot be found. I just got it thanks.

[Tech_Dude_5000]

I know it's not public but that does not mean it cannot be found. I just got it thanks.

:rolleyes:

I bet he got it inlegaly. or from those damn torrents :angry:

[Deihmos]

:rolleyes:

I bet he got it inlegaly. or from those damn torrents :angry:

inlegaly :blink: ? Does not matter where I got it because ot me the software is free. It's just a beta OS with many bugs so i don't see the big deal.

[PGHammer]

I think that the question about the public using it and public keys would be best answered if someone confirms that they cannot only install but activate windows using a public key. Those who are eager to test the next build can worry about getting the ISO on their own, but they are probably looking for an answer or confirmation about activation.

Existing CPP keys for beta 2 *will* work (both for install and for activation) with 5456.

There are several improvements in this build compared to the CPP:

Application performance throughout the operating system has improved (especially in Windows Media Center).

You can now also track Services (as well as applications) via Task Manager.

RAM footprint has declined by twenty percent over B2.

Windows Media Center: DTV tuner cards (example: ATI HDTV Wonder) can now be used without requiring a primary NTSC tuner card or NTSC support (NEW).

Flash Player 8 no longer causes IE 7+ to crash.

Windows Media Center: TV and DVD playback/recording are now a single application.

Windows Media Center: The EPG now works properly (I personally submitted two bugs against this issue concerning the CPP; I can confirm that this is now fixed).

Windows Media Center: Due to Aero/DWM improvements in this build, running WMC windowed no longer results in unacceptable performance loss with Aero Glass enabled, even on systems with 1 GB of RAM.

Stability has improved over the CPP, especially in terms of IE 7+.

Some of this Paul Thurott has commented on in his own review of this build; the remainder are my own observations.

Yeah I sent bug reports. Main reason why I had to go back to B2 was that there were so many new bugs in Media Center that it was impossible to use it. Windows itself was really stable and alot faster than B2.

What bugs did you see in Media Center? So far, 5456 is the first build in which (for me) Media Center was really usable (at least for my TV tuner card, ATI's HDTV Wonder). While the modified KRAM drivers let me use it with the CPP, performance sucked, and EPG issues made it worse. With 5456, both EPG bugs are gone, and performance is vastly increased (especially running Media Center in a window). For once, I don't miss Media Center Edition 2005 (which changes with ATI's Catalyst drivers forced me to drop), and I didn't dare run MCE 2005's Media Center windowed.

Nicely noticed ;-)

You will be able to use the update function from XP (there is talk of the last RC being updatable, but I'm not sure, have to ask John next time I see him) in October. This is a download of the final product as is going to enterprise :)

Chris

Actually, you could use it with either a clean or upgrade install with any of the last few builds (I've done so with the last three, including both the CPP and 5456); in all three cases I did a clean install (dual-boot setup). The option, in fact, dates back to Windows XP (though, AFAIK, XP never used it). I mounted the ISO in all three cases using D-Tools (and did the install from XP) selecting Update+Clean Install. This build is a definite winner.

[Joni_78]

What bugs did you see in Media Center? So far, 5456 is the first build in which (for me) Media Center was really usable (at least for my TV tuner card, ATI's HDTV Wonder). While the modified KRAM drivers let me use it with the CPP, performance sucked, and EPG issues made it worse. With 5456, both EPG bugs are gone, and performance is vastly increased (especially running Media Center in a window). For once, I don't miss Media Center Edition 2005 (which changes with ATI's Catalyst drivers forced me to drop), and I didn't dare run MCE 2005's Media Center windowed.

Thats weird, I'm having it exactly the other way. Works like a dream in Beta 2, never gave any errors or crashed (exept that AC3 sound doesn't work in some older xvids/divx movies), also performance is as good as in MCE 2005. But I only use Media Center for Xvid, Music and DVD's, havent tried TV tuner. In 5456 most of the time when adding media into library those dont appear until reboot, and sometimes everything dissappeares from video or music library. Also some Xvids played like 4x speed. On top of that I couldn't get Widescreen TV out to work (that option was greyed out in 5456) and occasional Media Center crashes when launching it or navigating menus. But good thing was that AC3 bug is fixed in 5456.

[azz0r_wugg]

Beta 2 was awful for me. This build is XP replacement worthy.

[Deihmos]

I installed the 64bit public beta and have been having some problems with the nvidia display drivers and msn messenger. I could get none of them to work... Is the 64 bit more buggy than the 32 bit?

[Tech_Dude_5000]

inlegaly :blink: ? Does not matter where I got it because ot me the software is free. It's just a beta OS with many bugs so i don't see the big deal.

first off are you talking about the beta 2 that was relased a month ago? bulid 5384?

[Greasy]

:rolleyes:

I bet he got it inlegaly. or from those damn torrents :angry:

Oh no! A non-UBER, non-BETA tester got a beta tester only build. :rolleyes:

Get over it please. It happens, and it's not going away so get over it. Not saying it's right... I'm just saying let it go, because you can't do squat about it.

For Christ's sake it's just a BETA! :blink:

[Tech_Dude_5000]

dude i know .

[trek]

if you know then why do u still comment?

[Tech_Dude_5000]

if you actully read the posts you'll know why. i have the right to post. I asked a question on if the person ment beta 2 or the curent bulid. dont get on my back.

anyway lets get back on topic.....

[trek]

You post a lot. it's hard to read it all.

[Windam]

the bottom line is

Progress is Progressing and we are seeing results. I expect the service packs to have missing/dropped(exception WinFS) features in vista

[M.F.D.K]

I was amazed with the installion, it took roughly 16 or let me be more percised 16m and 54 seconds to complete and thats a record for me with installing Windows :laugh:. I had the "Stopwatch" because i want to see if the installion is quicker than the previous build so far and the results are great.

I have a question regarding some strange files showing up on my User Account, some of them seem to be in use so i was wondering if anyone got those too.. pic included

[Vykranth]

I was amazed with the installion, it took roughly 16 or let me be more percised 16m and 54 seconds to complete and thats a record for me with installing Windows :laugh:. I had the "Stopwatch" because i want to see if the installion is quicker than the previous build so far and the results are great.

I have a question regarding some strange files showing up on my User Account, some of them seem to be in use so i was wondering if anyone got those too.. pic included

I have them too, in all accounts but users\public. Since Users and ProgramData have replaced Documents & Settings, that's not really surprising to see GUID based temporary files.

[HoochieMamma]

Damn, 16 min? What are your specs?