Chris Pirillo says it like it is...

[blitzableiter]

sad to say but it's true... Chris hits the spot.

all MS fanboys can now go to bed...

[Master Shake]

Yeah okay....

[gigapixels Veteran]

I completely agree with him.

[Fuzzymath]

The last thing I wanted to do upon returning from Alaska was rip Windows Vista “Ultimate” a new one. I also don’t want to go through my list of Vista UI nitpicks, as several of them still have not been addressed - and likely never will be. Even after installing RC1, I find myself feeling like I did after I first saw Star Wars: A Phantom Menace. For whatever it’s worth, I left the theater disappointed and dejected.

Sadly, the first release candidate for Windows Vista feels more like an alpha to me (or early beta, at best). I’m not talking about performance issues, which will most likely be improved upon before this OS goes gold. No, it’s all about a cohesive user experience / user interface for me. Vista fails on most UI fronts. It doesn’t look or behave similarly across any part of the operating system. Even more sad? That’s by design, folks.

I never thought I’d say this, but… we’ve finally seen the day when KDE / Gnome look, work, and feel “better” than Windows. Vista is schizophrenic, and that disorder has been further enabled by the range of vigilante software development teams who are providing code to the core without cross-checking with other teams for UI consistency. Unless Microsoft is sitting on major detail revisions, I’m afraid they’re sitting atop a “Phantom Menace.”

If OS X had a decent desktop PIM, I think Vista would push me to switch.

Next time, you might post what you're talking about. I had to go google for this -.-

[Fonze]

I like Chris Pirillo, but he is a total UI nazi. The under the hood changes of Vista make it a solid release, but I agree the UI looks and feels strange to me, but I think that's just because it is new to me. I'm not going to use Vista as my main OS until solid ATI drivers come out that can play certain games well.

[C++]

sad to say but it's true... Chris hits the spot.

all MS fanboys can now go to bed...

Oh noes, Vista is going to phail and all the phanboyz can go to bed because Chris Pirillo, or rather :star: Chris Pirillo :star: (sorry, couldn't find a GOD emoticon) said so!

Next time, you might post what you're talking about. I had to go google for this -.-

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[gigapixels Veteran]

I think being a UI nazi is a completely valid viewpoint. Not only are the main changes going to confuse Joe User, but the inconsistencies just make the confusion factor skyrocket even more. It's a very bad move on Microsoft's part...

[Lexcyn]

I'll agree with him on the UI part. It is rather ... disorganized and strange. It will take a lot of getting used to with the weird quirks everywhere.

Though, the core changes the OS has gone through are good. They just forgot to wrap it up with a nice bow.

[freak_power]

UI is the latest thing on my list...and the retard like Chris can't see a lot. Nobody ever talks here about kernel, NTFS system, DX10.0, Full Backup feature....**** like i care how the OS looks. OSX might looks nice, but Mac OS was and it will be a crap..Windows outperforms OSX in every aspect...especially in gaming...

Btw I always use classic feel and look (windows 95)....

He mentioned a GNOME, KDE...give me a ****ing break...Linux is the most retarded OS....

Star Wars Episode I was a good movie...I don't know what was he expecting but...probably Saw II is good movie for him and people similar to him...

[silverboy31]

"Windows outperforms OSX in every aspect...especially in gaming" Maybe in gaming but your first statement is total BS its also a matter of prefrence...... I ve used both and always go back to OSX for usability and reliability....that being said Vista is looking nice and have installed it on my MacPro but i'll stick with OS X. By the way i got a rating of 4.3 on my MacPro with Two 2GHz, Dual-Core Intel Xeon 5100 series processors

[Denis W. Veteran]

UI is the latest last thing on my list...and the retard like Chris can't see a lot. Nobody ever talks here about kernel, NTFS system, DX10.0, Full Backup feature....**** like i care how the OS looks. OSX might looks nice, but Mac OS was and it will be a crap..Windows outperforms OSX in every aspect...especially in gaming...

Btw I always use classic feel and look (windows 95)....

He mentioned a GNOME, KDE...give me a ****ing break...Linux is the most retarded OS....

Actually believe it or not, first impressions always count. And 95% of the time for new users, the UI is what they will use to judge an OS the FIRST time they look at it. Doesn't matter how feature plenty it might be under the hood - if it scares them away, they're less tempted to convince themselves to explore it a second time. With that said, however, my opinion is the Vista UI is OK and nice at times, but also just as equally as annoying as well sometimes. Will the general public accept or reject the Vista UI and treat its UI as a factor in upgrading... that we'll find out next year and the years down the road.

Your post seems just as one sided as the OP's post (you trolls! :devil:). He provides criticism of the new UI, fine. This UI just won't suit everyone, period... just like you're uncomfortable about the "retarded" Linux distros and the "crappy" Mac OS X. It's also interesting to note you don't give a tenth of a damn about how well Vista looks, yet you care about its features - yet this logic is, according to your post, reversed for OS X - you judge it by its looks, not by what it offers its users. :huh:

[Wildcard]

The UI is what stands out to most users so it should be consistent everywhere in Vista

[yert*]

Star Wars: A Phantom Menace was a good movie :(. How come I'm the only one who liked it?

[Proforma]

sad to say but it's true... Chris hits the spot.

all MS fanboys can now go to bed...

Well I heard a lot of bitching but I see no solutions to what he wants done.

A more consistant experience for what again?

I think Vista looks fine and It has the same look through the entire OS and if you don't like the colors you can change them. Everyone that has used a computer knows what a start button is and what a taskbar is.

They know that X closes a Window

I want solutions from him and I want them to make sense (otherwise it smells like bullsh*t to me).

[gigapixels Veteran]

Well I heard a lot of bitching but I see no solutions to what he wants done.

A more consistant experience for what again?

I think Vista looks fine and It has the same look through the entire OS and if you don't like the colors you can change them. Everyone that has used a computer knows what a start button is and what a taskbar is.

They know that X closes a Window

I want solutions from him and I want them to make sense (otherwise it smells like bullsh*t to me).

He's not the one spending billions of dollars to get solutions. You should be asking Microsoft for solutions on this one.

[Lare2]

Don't worry, average joe's will still use it, because it'll came preloaded on more than 90% of computer sold at retails.

:rolleyes:

[ranasrule]

Chris Pirillo is an idiot

[BiGdUsTy]

[rant]

RC1 is a memory hog no doubt. How many boxes are still out there that have 512MB of ram or less in them?

A lot I would say and how many people that own these boxes will try to upgrade to vista? Not all of them but a few will and they'll find out how bad vista is when it comes to ram usage.

Just for the hell of it i installed vista on and athlon I have laying around that only has 512MB of ram.

Now on a clean install of vista it takes up over 70% of the ram has damn near 40 processes running and has 10,000+ handles going.

Now we know the os is lying about the processes cause there?s got to be close to 10 svchost.exe's running which all have more services hidden within them. Turn superfetch off and its no better it still hog's up the entire ram. Why does vista need all this sh*t on in the background and just what is going on that needs all of that running by default?

It may not be the next Windows ME but its going to be close. And I agree with Pirillo on the interface issues. For the normal user it's going to be 3.1 to 95 all over again. [/rant]

Now where did I put that Windows XP cd.

[Arkaic]

He's not the one spending billions of dollars to get solutions. You should be asking Microsoft for solutions on this one.

Perfectly true! BUT, he is criticizing without compliment or advice. If you were doing a project, any project regardless of size or cost and he basically said "You're doing it all wrong, it sucks." you would probably say "Then tell me whats wrong and how you believe it could be done better all mighty one."

[Toxicfume Veteran]

I agree with Chris here, he makes a valid point.

[Gendo]

This "Chris Pirillo" is totaly "st%pid" anti-microsoft guy i ever seen...

This one, is king of people who screams: "Winblow$ must die!" all over the internet, at the same time post it from Windows OS...

Give a normal alternative... Linux???? Most unuseful system for normal user i ever used...

Why for install some program or some update i need to read half of google????

OSX??? Yep right... Good OS for graphics and music production, but i want software.... i mean, you dont have a choise in software... you got only one or two NORMAL GUI FTP clients, one or two mail clients, etc...

So any solution for this smart boy???

Vista is great... got some bugs for now... but its only RC1... and most problem of vista now its drivers problem... when Nvidia, ATI, Marvell, etc will release normal drivers everything will go smoother...

Maybe its a littlebit hard to move from XP to Vista... but at the end Vista is much more simple to configure and customize, its just different from XP thats all... You just need to make a switch in you head, to understand how stuff works in vista and it will go smooth...

[Randolph]

Wow I must be a noob. Who is Chris Pirillo? :huh:

[gigapixels Veteran]

This "Chris Pirillo" is totaly "st%pid" anti-microsoft guy i ever seen...

This one, is king of people who screams: "Winblow$ must die!" all over the internet, at the same time post it from Windows OS...

Give a normal alternative... Linux???? Most unuseful system for normal user i ever used...

Why for install some program or some update i need to read half of google????

OSX??? Yep right... Good OS for graphics and music production, but i want software.... i mean, you dont have a choise in software... you got only one or two NORMAL GUI FTP clients, one or two mail clients, etc...

So any solution for this smart boy???

Vista is great... got some bugs for now... but its only RC1... and most problem of vista now its drivers problem... when Nvidia, ATI, Marvell, etc will release normal drivers everything will go smoother...

Maybe its a littlebit hard to move from XP to Vista... but at the end Vista is much more simple to configure and customize, its just different from XP thats all... You just need to make a switch in you head, to understand how stuff works in vista and it will go smooth...

ROFL You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.

Just because Linux isn't quite as user-friendly doesn't mean it's less useful. There are plenty of automated package installation programs that allow the average Joe to install anything that's publicly available with the click of a button. Sorry you couldn't figure that out...

If you want to see the software choice for OS X, check something like MacUpdate or VersionTracker. You'll see for yourself how wrong you are. Just because you don't know it's there, doesn't mean it's not there ;)

[Vice]

He is right on the UI, it's inconsistent and doesn't offer much flow, the UI takes allot more clicks and drags to get tasks done then what was possible in Windows XP.

Someone else pointed out to me yesterday night how Vista has nearly no Tabs in system menus such as the Display Properties window in Windows XP has several tabs for "Themes" "Desktop" "Screensaver" and so on, While Windows Vista does not have anything like this and instead you need to open completely separate windows from the control panel to get those preferences.

It's allot more effort. It almost feels like every part of the system uses it's own menu structure and general layout there is just no consistency, it's very muddled and as the development has gone on it seems to have got worse.

With a new Operating System they should be looking at productivity and producing ways to change something simple like a display resolution very quickly instead its become 2 or 3x as long and requires allot more thought by the end user as to which menu will take that user to there desired preference pane.

Vista won't fail but it will be another Windows ME and everyone knows it.

[Gendo]

ROFL You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.

Just because Linux isn't quite as user-friendly doesn't mean it's less useful. There are plenty of automated package installation programs that allow the average Joe to install anything that's publicly available with the click of a button. Sorry you couldn't figure that out...

If you want to see the software choice for OS X, check something like MacUpdate or VersionTracker. You'll see for yourself how wrong you are. Just because you don't know it's there, doesn't mean it's not there ;)

Yep right software update in linux is really easy, most of the time is not available or some other programs... you need to edit yum.conf, etc... really easy... nothing to say...

OSX maybe... but anyway you dont have this amount and quality of software, that you got on windows...