Xbox Live Downtime October 17th. 2006

[SuperJediMedia]

Tell others to Shut up while they express negative opinions is NOT considered Personal attacks???

I DON'T care if you are annoyed with my opinion stating MS's Disappointing Act, BUT it's still my Opinion and I have a RIGHT to express it!

If you don't respect my opinion, then this thread Rather NOT exist!!!

[NightmarE D]

Nobody has disagreed with your opinion. That's nowhere even close to what this issue is about. The issue is that you keep complaining and now you're trying to complain about something that doesn't exist and twisiting peoples words around. You're also taking this thread completely off-topic. Also, I never once told you to shut up. I said OTHERS told you to shut up. I said you could be the good guy and not post anymore or keep posting all you want but don't complain. That's what I said. Nowhere in my post did I tell you to shut up.

You made it perfectly clear you're not thrilled with how long the service was down. A lot of people aren't, but you only need to say it once. Not every other post in a thread. You did that and started aggravating everyone and being annoying with it. You're acting like a little kid man. There's no need to act like this and this thread shouldn't be closed because you were obviously bothering others in this thread and they asked you to quit and you just kept it going.

I'll be the adult here and just ignore any reply you have to this and I apologize to everyone else if I bothered them with anything I've said.

[SuperJediMedia]

Look, First, regard Shut up, I wasn't saying it was you! So, why are you defending yourself about that? NO Need!

Second, A lot of my posts wasn't even complaints but for some reason a lot of you mistook it for a Complaint! That's NOT my fault you jump into conclusions!

Third, I happen to be VERY concerned/passionate about the state of affair of Xbox (Which resulted in many posts I made albeit Disappointed Reaction) otherwise I WOULDN'T even be here!

Edited October 19, 2006 by JediXAngel

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

JediX is right. Telling another member to Shut Up is indeed a personal attack.

I am on my way to work, but the proper warnings will be handed out later on when I can make sense of this thread and have the proper time to do so.

And before I get accused of doing so, this is not me trying to flex my Mod muscles either. I am just stating that we have always warned in the past for the same comment, so it cannot and will not be let go now.

Bottom line telling someone to Shut Up is just not an acceptable form of behavior, no matter how much you disagree with them.

[Sheppard]

Oh get a life, if you find "shut up" a personal attack then you really need to get out more, over the space of about 10 posts he kept rambling on about the same thing and not actually adding anything to the thread other than asking for people to tell him to shush.

Look, First, regard Shut up, I wasn't saying it was you! So, why are you defending yourself about that? NO Need!

You complain to mods about being told to shut up, yet you go and do it to someone who wasnt actually having a go at you, hopefully youll get a warning as well.

Third, I happen to be VERY concerned/passionate about the state of affair of Xbox (Which resulted in many posts I made albeit Disappointed Reaction) otherwise I WOULDN'T even be here!

What "state of affairs" so its gone on a bit longer than the 24 hours they originally thought it was going to take, xbox live is back up, you can play games, you can download demos, whats the problem?

[NightmarE D]

At least one person saw my point and saw that I never attacked you and they also seen how it looked like you implied that I told you to shut up like the others did. So it's not just me that saw that. All I was doing was agreeing with the others that you took your complaining a little too far and could calm it down or something. I never once disrespected your opinion on the downtime, I respect everyones opinions. It's just that your complaining went a little too far and I jumped in trying to be the nice guy and ask you to calm it down.

I should have just kept my mouth shut of the whole thing, but I felt if I maybe jumped in and took a different approach than simply telling you to shut up, maybe you'd see that you were taking it a little too far.

That's all I have to say about the issue.

[SuperJediMedia]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tell others to Shut up while they express negative opinions is NOT considered Personal attacks???

Again, that was NOT directed at you, it was directed at people told me to Shut up! If you did not tell me to shut up, then it wasn't you!

Seriously, How can anyone be pleased with this update? It's nothing but disappointment so really this thread need to get Locked now IF you CAN'T accept people's negative opinion about this it's Ridiculous NOT even worth to have this thread remain open!!! :|

[Steven P. Administrators]

JediXAngel just cool it ok? ;)

and Sheppard you of all people should know that our staff might well have better lives if it weren't for certain members making their time here a misery by having to chase around the forums 'certain members' for rule breaking. The fact of the matter is, Staff follow protocols and people who break them will be approached. Most members don't find the rules here constricting.

Wouldn't it be so much nicer if we didn't need moderators, but unfortunetly there are always people ready to make others experience on this website less than pleasing. So bear that in mind before you throw around those sorts of comments.

[Sheppard]

Yes but no offense there are far worse things i could have said than "shut up" to him.

[Steven P. Administrators]

Yea but this thread hit the radar ;) You could of also said "Bah, whatever!" or something. Shut-up isn't a profanity I agree but it's not polite either.

Anyway back on topic! (Y)

[SuperJediMedia]

I just don't know why I am Singled out, looking at the reactions from Xbox.com forums, and Major Nelson's Blogs it's overall an Outrage about it!

MORE people are disappointed than I am, and lash out at MS harsher than I am!

I am really confused, but if you folks can't accept our Negative opinions regard this matter, this thread is Better Off closed since you hate to hear "This update is a disappointment" over and over I don't see a need this thread kept alive! Just close the thread!

[magik]

... anyway ...

Yea, I don't see anything new. :( I think BrandonLive was right though, the new features will probably reveal themselves when the Fall Update launches.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

You are free to complain about a particular console, you are free to complain about Microsoft and you are even free to trash Bill Gates (unless he suddenly becomes a member of Neowin).

What you are not free to do is to disrespect fellow members. Members are expected to respect members at all times. You can disagree with their opinions all you like but don't start going after another member personally (either in a personal attack or just by general rudeness).

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

/me goes off humming Aretha Franklin...

[NightmarE D]

I just don't know why I am Singled out, looking at the reactions from Xbox.com forums, and Major Nelson's Blogs it's overall an Outrage about it!

Read what you said. That's other sites where it's going on at, not Neowin. Most of the people here are just taking it casually and going on with their day. Nobody was disrespecting your opinion at all, people just weren't in the mood for everything you were saying and how you were constantly saying it. Just look through this thread at how many were angered by it, but went on with their day as usual. That was other sites people are complaining on and if the mods of those sites just let it go on like that then that's how they work, but this is a completely different site. I wasn't disrespecting anything you said at all, I was just trying to say calm down.

And Brandon Live has a good point about how they might be prepraring for a fall update so maybe that's why it took longer than they said. Unless I'm mistaken Brandon Live is a MS employee right? If anyone would have a good idea why it took longer than they said he might have a better idea of why it took a little longer.

And if they're not preparing for any kind of update, they could have simply hit some snags they didn't plan for and it caused them to have to work it out and cause it to take longer.

[blachole]

... anyway ...

Yea, I don't see anything new. :( I think BrandonLive was right though, the new features will probably reveal themselves when the Fall Update launches.

It was already stated by Microsoft that this downtime was for updates coming in the Fall 2006 update, so we won't see anything until then. This was also confirmed on Major Nelson's website.

[Lexcyn]

It was already stated by Microsoft that this downtime was for updates coming in the Fall 2006 update, so we won't see anything until then. This was also confirmed on Major Nelson's website.

Does anyone know an estimate on when the Fall Updates will be out?

[blachole]

Does anyone know an estimate on when the Fall Updates will be out?

November..should be around the same time the xbox360 was released last year.

[Lexcyn]

November..should be around the same time the xbox360 was released last year.

Nice, thanks for the quick reply. :)

[blachole]

Nice, thanks for the quick reply. :)

My guess would be right around the time PS3 and wii are released. Microsoft has already stated they have special surprises in store for the fall update that will add new features currently locked in the system. I guess we'll see.

[Sheppard]

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

/me goes off humming Aretha Franklin...

I started singing that in my head before i saw the line beneath it :whistle:

[duntkno]

hate that song.

[DELTETHISACCOUNT]

Geez, what the hell. I don't even have a 360, so how is this helping me?

I just want to play Halo 2. :(

[Rodrigo]

Geez, what the hell. I don't even have a 360, so how is this helping me?

I just want to play Halo 2. :(

Why can't you? :blink:

[lukeangel]

The Fall Update should be out on November 6, 2006. The maker of the HD-DVD Drive has already said that the Fall Update will be required to use the HD-DVD Add-on and that the fall update will happen the day before the HD-DVD Drive Add-on is released.

[dnast]

The Fall Update should be out on November 6, 2006. The maker of the HD-DVD Drive has already said that the Fall Update will be required to use the HD-DVD Add-on and that the fall update will happen the day before the HD-DVD Drive Add-on is released.

If that's true, then it's coming sooner than I expected. :D

I'm not going to get my hopes too high for the "surprise", though, since I can't think of anything that amazing that can be added via a firmware update. Hopefully, I'll be pleasantly surprised.