HD-DVD wins, Blu-Ray loses

[neufuse Veteran]

I don't think either will win, I have a feeling they will eventually merge into a hybrid disc that supports both and you can record either/or and play on a hybrid player

[Cole]

Hahaha, well the rootkits are what did it for me. I lost all my trust in Sony from that point forward.

This is not a proprietary Sony format like Betamax was. Sony endorses it, but isn't even the main developer. O_O

[Toastyone]

HD-DVD beats Blu-Ray in price and quality. There's no way it can lose unless Sony does something sleazy like use its Playstation brand loyalty to force consumers to buy Blu-Ray players, thus increasing market share.

Oh, wait...

:p

[1Frothy]

I don't think this format war is even half way through, let alone won already.

:yes: It's way to early to proclaim any sort of winner here.

[1WayJonny]

This article is another example of analysts and haters of Sony "blowing their load" way too fast. The PS3 hasn't even been out for 2 weeks and people are already writing it off. So so foolish.

This article doesn't take into account the tens of millions of PS3s that will sell in the coming years. For each PS3 that sells, there's another Blu-Ray player sold. The same cannot be said for the 360; one needs to buy a separate accessory to play high definition movies. I would hate to be the one who has to make more room in the entertainment center when it could have been built-in.

Who knows, maybe HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will both fizzle out, not take flight, and some new, kick-ass format is born that sweeps the market.

Bottom line: Don't write off Sony and Blu-Ray just yet. It's very foolish.

There's a reason MS had that $100 sale on Amazon for their core system. They're desperate to sell systems.

Yah?

Well i love the fact that i can unplug from 360 and into vista

external but yea...

[ambiance]

the rootkits are what did it for me. I lost all my trust in Sony from that point forward.

Co-sign.

Toshiba also introduced the DVD with some input from Sony amongst others. The battle is far from over, but I will side with them unless Sony re-invents itself.

[EduardValencia]

yihhaaaa HD-DVD will win,also i have to mention that the format war si just starting,but for now HD-DVD has the lead

[Express]

I think both will win. Dual capability drives are on the way.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

I did read it. I was talking about hybrid HD-dvd + dvd, but I somehow missed the part where he did mention it :pinch:

That's the clear winner imho. The fact that Toshiba put so much effort into getting hd-dvd on one side and dvd on the other side is enough to win the battle :yes:

I heard that Sony could also potentially do Blu-Ray + DVD hybrids but the HD-DVD + DVD hybrids, however, are already in stores and selling as we speak. The Miami Vice DVD, for example, has a HD-DVD copy of the movie included.

HD-DVD certainly has the momentum. The only thing that could possibly save Blu-Ray is the PS3 and they would have to continue to sell those like there is no tomorrow.

[Slimy]

^ Potentially, theoretically, I don't care. Toshiba did it. They did it first. As you said, it's in store. That's what it comes down to, and that's why HD-DVD will not lose against Blu-ray.

[Quick Shot]

Well that just answered my question on which i should get first :p

Thank you :D

[Shuu]

i think HD-VHS will be the next big thing.

[QuarterSwede]

Personally, I think its too early to tell. But from Sony's past experiences with formats they endorse or come up with they usually bomb big time because they are way to proprietary and are more expensive. On the whole, I don't really get how Sony is still in business.

[osirisX]

HD-DVD is cheaper therefpre it will win. It's as simple as that.

[libertas83]

i think HD-VHS will be the next big thing.

I believe that was called D-VHS and has been around longer than HD-DVD.

[Toology]

ATRAC, Betamax, MemoryStick, MiniDisc...it looks like Blu-Ray is next in line. From a consumer perspective "HD-DVD" just makes more sense and draws appeal.

[d3nuo]

im preparing to release my own format soon that will own them all.

it is a design that incorporates a movie playable on VHS/CD(VCD)/DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray equipment on a single hybrid cartridge design.

it also comes with lots of pr0n ;)

[MrKuro]

I've said it from the beginning, HD-DVD will win vs Blu-Ray because of the name.

People know what HD means, they know what DVD means, putting them together = "ooh, cool, high def DVD!"

Howard Stern was doing a plug on his show for some Sony Vaio computer the other day with a built in BluRay player and half way though it he was like "what the f$*# is BluRay???" -- I laughed so hard I nearly pee'd myself ;)

QFT ----^

I've said the same thing before,

...the average consumer will look at HDDVD, and think "hmm I have an HDTV, might as well get an HDDVD".

The same Joe-Blow consumer will look at BlueRay and think "WTF is this?"

Specs don't always mean its better, the average person just buys what he knows. HD & DVD are both familiar terms, so HDDVD is the obvious choice to them.

I like both technologies for different reasons, and personally don't give a crap who wins, as long as that format has the media on it that I want.

[Scirwode]

Co-sign.

Toshiba also introduced the DVD with some input from Sony amongst others. The battle is far from over, but I will side with them unless Sony re-invents itself.

I think that is what Sony should really be doing - reinvent themselves. They've got some great ideas but at the rate they're going, expect to see more flops in the future.

Scirwode

[Brandon Live Veteran]

There's a reason MS had that $100 sale on Amazon for their core system. They're desperate to sell systems.

I just have to call BS on that... Amazon is having that sale, not Microsoft. And neither MS nor Amazon is having trouble selling 360s...

The Xbox division is poised to have one heck of a holiday season.

[Xab]

I heard that Sony could also potentially do Blu-Ray + DVD hybrids but the HD-DVD + DVD hybrids, however, are already in stores and selling as we speak. The Miami Vice DVD, for example, has a HD-DVD copy of the movie included.

HD-DVD certainly has the momentum. The only thing that could possibly save Blu-Ray is the PS3 and they would have to continue to sell those like there is no tomorrow.

I think people give too much credence to the PS3 argument, just because it happened with the PS2. Things were different at that point, there was no other format competing with DVD. The PS2 also launched in quantity at $299. The PS3 is far more expensive, and due to the Blu-ray drive, there has been a severe shortage of units. Meanwhile, Microsoft is shipping lots of HD-DVD add-on drives for the 360, and the quality of these drives beats the currently available standalone players.

Add to that the fact that a standalone Blu-ray player is $999 vs. $499 for an HD-DVD player (or a combined cost of $499 for an Xbox 360 core with the HD-DVD drive), and the HD-DVD movies being cheaper, if only by a few dollars, there's really little reason to go with Blu-ray for the average consumer.

[Hupp]

well since i just got a new HD tv im going to make the jump for the hd-dvd player for the 360

[AMDMEFX-55]

I just want to add, I own a 360 (probably could have guessed by my sig), and as soon as I get a bigger screen, I'm getting the HD-DVD addon. It's a no-brainer.

Same here. I did have $400.00 to blow a week ago I was going to buy one but I just have a 30" t.v. I need a new t.v but the one I want is $6,000. I think me and my bro are going half in it so.

I also think that HD-DVD sounds better then Blu-ray. Most people don't know what Blu-Ray is but know DVD so HD-DVD is not hard to understand.

[PsyOpWarlord]

I see HD-DVD eventually winning. I say it will come down to the Adult Porn industry and they will most likely use HD-DVD since the switchover cost is way less than it would be with Bluray. Once they start selling porn in HD-DVD there will be no way for Bluray to recover from a blow (no pun intended) like that.

[L3thal Veteran]

I see HD-DVD eventually winning. I say it will come down to the Adult Porn industry and they will most likely use HD-DVD since the switchover cost is way less than it would be with Bluray. Once they start selling porn in HD-DVD there will be no way for Bluray to recover from a blow (no pun intended) like that.

Unless the porn industry wants to sell their films in full 1080p Blu-Ray "offers" :woot: