HD-DVD wins, Blu-Ray loses

[MrCobra]

true enough but if i HAD to get a player, i think a $200 hd-dvd is more on my mind then a $1000 blu-ray

I bought the XBOX360 HD-DVD drive and pulled the drive out of the case and threw it into my PC and used the Toshiba drivers that are floating around for it. HD movies play great.

[PsyOpWarlord]

Unless the porn industry wants to sell their films in full 1080p Blu-Ray "offers" :woot:

HD-DVD movies are full 1080p also so whats your point?

[Matrix XII]

I'll be getting the 360 HD-DVD drive.

[Ultomato]

HD-DVD movies are full 1080p also so whats your point?

sarcasm?

[PsyOpWarlord]

sarcasm?

Possible. The way its written it could be either way, sarcasm or believes it so thats why I asked?

[zivan56]

From wikipedia:

In comparison to Blu-ray Disc, which also uses a blue laser, HD DVD has less information capacity per layer (15 gigabytes instead of 25)

Winner = Blu-Ray

Since I don't buy/rent DVD's, I don't see any reason to support an inferior product such as HD-DVD. If you go by that logic, lets all use D5 HD tapes, as they are even lower capacity and still display HD. Hell, why not just use a memory stick instead? :rolleyes:

[spenser.d]

From wikipedia:

Winner = Blu-Ray

Since I don't buy/rent DVD's, I don't see any reason to support an inferior product such as HD-DVD. If you go by that logic, lets all use D5 HD tapes, as they are even lower capacity and still display HD. Hell, why not just use a memory stick instead? :rolleyes:

Most people don't actually care about the space though. The mass market will buy into these because they are watching movies on them, in which case, the dual layer HDDVD's (which work) actually have more capacity than the single layer BD (dual layer is having problems), and I doubt movies will need more than 30GB for everything they can pack on them. For example, V for Vendetta is a whole 6GB in HD (you can dl it on XBL Video Marketplace). They have plenty of room to move around.

My vote goes to HDDVD.

-Spenser

[+vlsi0n Subscriber¹]

:votes hd-dvd and moves on: :)

[TruckWEB]

Most people don't actually care about the space though. The mass market will buy into these because they are watching movies on them, in which case, the dual layer HDDVD's (which work) actually have more capacity than the single layer BD (dual layer is having problems), and I doubt movies will need more than 30GB for everything they can pack on them. For example, V for Vendetta is a whole 6GB in HD (you can dl it on XBL Video Marketplace). They have plenty of room to move around.

My vote goes to HDDVD.

-Spenser

Carefull, XBL offers movies in 720p. It's HD but it's not the full 1080p that you have on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. You don't have as many sound option too and no extra.

[Ferret]

I'll stick with DVD for now - But when I eventually upgrade, I was looking forward to HD-DVD.

[Rodrigo]

HD-DVD for me.

[CheeseFart]

i think the winner of the next gen disc is the price. Whoever has the cheapest disc/player will win.

I do like the idea of plugging an 360 hd-dvd drive into my computer though (don't own a 360)

[Xerxes]

Huh? I would of thought Blu-Ray would win...HD-DVD doesn't even exist in Australia yet, the only mention I've heard of HD-DVD here is the 360 addon, but Blu-Ray is getting some serious attention. Personally I think it's HD-DVD that is dead and buried.

[Sheppard]

Not in australia, HD-DVD are cheaper and better quality and have more titles out in europe and america.

[*John*]

DVD's will win :)

Like it or not, the consumer just doesnt "need" more than 4.7GB per layer yet.

DVD's are more than big enough for what I need, and will be for quite some time. In a year or two, when suddenly 4.7GB is nowhere near enough, THEN i'll be looking to HD-DVD and BluRay :)

[Sheppard]

They didnt "need" more than 700mb when CDs were out, the difference between VCD movies and DVD movies was quite significant. Most DVD movies thesedays are on dual layer DVDs, High Def movies take up a lot more space and are infinately better than DVD, if its not at least 720p High Def i dont bother watching it.

[Lasker]

well I think the cheapest the better, this is why hd-dvd won, who in their right mind will buy a $500 dollars blu ray drive when you can buy a hd-dvd for $200 or less :blink:

[Sethos]

My next format is HD-DVD, just because i have a Sexbox.

[Joey L]

At least Sony will have a medium that is harder to pirate, as I can't see cheap enough Bluray writer and blank media taking off if the press media doesn't.

Now Sony can't blame piracy for bad sales with bluray. But they will have to make sure its patched so as not to run code off the HDD's as then the whole Bluray monopoly will go to pot.

[Alan Zeino]

At least Sony will have a medium that is harder to pirate, as I can't see cheap enough Bluray writer and blank media taking off if the press media doesn't.

Now Sony can't blame piracy for bad sales with bluray. But they will have to make sure its patched so as not to run code off the HDD's as then the whole Bluray monopoly will go to pot.

Uh, what?

[Fred Derf Veteran]

From wikipedia:

Winner = Blu-Ray

Since I don't buy/rent DVD's, I don't see any reason to support an inferior product such as HD-DVD. If you go by that logic, lets all use D5 HD tapes, as they are even lower capacity and still display HD. Hell, why not just use a memory stick instead? :rolleyes:

As a reminder, Betamax was technically superior to VHS. If history has any say, the cheaper solution will win with consumers not the most technically elegant.

[spacer]

Same here. I did have $400.00 to blow a week ago I was going to buy one but I just have a 30" t.v. I need a new t.v but the one I want is $6,000. I think me and my bro are going half in it so.

I also think that HD-DVD sounds better then Blu-ray. Most people don't know what Blu-Ray is but know DVD so HD-DVD is not hard to understand.

Just a word of warning, going half-in on furniture or expensive appliances ($6000 TV? That is just ridiculous btw :p ) is very risky. Even though its your brother, be careful when it comes time for the two of you to get separate places, and when you have to decide who gets what.

sarcasm?

Haha, Ultomato I love your avatar with that cats.

As for the thread topic:

I do not have an HDTV; therefore, I do not need anything other than DVDs at this point in time. And, DVDs are fine for me, because I am not all hopped up on super detailed graphics and surround sound. Yes, I have seen what the experience is like watching HD Movies with surround sound at a buddy's house. I can honestly say that, to me, the experience is not worth the money.

So, who "wins" the next format war? HD-DVD or Blu-ray? I do not care. I'll get which ever one the market deems the "winner" when I move to HD.

[jerzdawg]

There's a reason MS had that $100 sale on Amazon for their core system. They're desperate to sell systems.

yea cuz selling 1000 xbox's will really change the next gen war...

[sgtLENIN]

There's a reason MS had that $100 sale on Amazon for their core system. They're desperate to sell systems.

You think Microsoft arranged that one? It was Amazon.com having a poll of witch system to sell dirt cheap, most people voted for the 360.

I'm pretty sure Amazon.com took the loss in this case.

Not going too off-topic I too think HD DVD will win. Price versus image quality beeing the biggest factor.

[anodyne_98]

Blu-Ray is going to win for the simple fact that it is in the PS3; do you remember when DVD was first coming out? I do very much, it had to compete against disc media entertainment of close quality and less price. that technology was LD, and divx disc. divx disc was dirt cheap but you could only watch the disc 3 times before the player would not let you watch it any longer; it also was later integrated into some LD players to help sell the players, and LD was both interactive and the close quality as dvd when dvd first came out, and the price dropped when the industry released divx disc, while LD players didn?t go over to well here in the states they did extremely well in Japan. That was mainly because of marketing in the states. But when Sony released their PS2 with dvd video it was a whole new ball game. not only did the PS2 play the original PS games but also played the new highly marketed DVD format it was a 2 for one deal. it is one of those great multi-taskers that everybody loves, 2 types of games, music CDs, as well as a much higher quality movie that was relatively only a little more than VHS. granted not all of Sony?s creations make it huge and as well adopted as the dvd, we can just look at the track record on that with their betaMAX and MiniDisc that was co-developed with sharp. however we look at who all is backing them up with the new Blu-Ray format. Samsung, one of the largest manufactures of LCD and plasma TV in the world as well as having their hands in just about every market of technology out there. also they have the backing now of Apple Computers and Lacie for Blu-Ray recorders. Lacie will be selling a Blue Ray recording this upcoming year and it will be priced at sub 1k. which is pretty damn impressive considering all you will need is computer to connect it to and you can start making HD movies yourself. On top of having an external burner Apple is rumored to be releasing a Blu-Ray burner in their new Mac Pro Line. Having Steve Jobs on the board of standard for Blu-Ray technology is somewhat of a confirmation that they will be helping produce and support the line. But once again for every bonus comes a shaky track record especially with Steve Jobs. His company produced several of technologies biggest losers with their lisa project, next computer, and the newton. however if you look at what those products did, it is amazing how far ahead of the times they were. How about computer that you click on pictures instead of typing in commands to make what you want happen on the screen, who would have thought that this was a good idea. Or how about a computer network that you could log into any computer and always have your items and settings with you, once again something that is now common with SAN, NAS, and roaming profile technology. And the last creations, a monochrome screened digital personal assistant with online access to send email and faxes, a calendar program with all of your business and personal contact information at the tip of a little pen. When that product crashed and burned it was looked at by the general public as technology overkill and who in their right mind would ever want to be able to have that much access to information, surely not a normal person that is not a CEO of a fortune 500 company now would they; So the way that I look at it that Mr. Jobs knows what the people want and usually delivers it to them, but just a little early. Bottom line is that Blu-Ray is going to start off on a rocky road trying to gain momentum and then explode when the PS3 becomes readily available to the masses. That is on top of having 3 high end companies that play a vital role in the entertainment industry not only for playback but as well as the production of the movies and shows we watch as well as the games we play.