Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[Southern Patriot]

does anybody nno what the latest beta build is? the one shownn in the WWDC

I believe that it is reported to be 9A466.

[sambrentnall]

Thanks roadwarrior is there any way to get ahold of this beta legally?

[the evn show]

Thanks roadwarrior is there any way to get ahold of this beta legally?

ADC Select/Primier members can expect to find a copy in their mailboxes any time now.

[divinatum]

It seems to be slowly making its rounds on the internet now. Information to follow.

[.Neo]

ADC Select/Primier members can expect to find a copy in their mailboxes any time now.

Didn't Jobs specifically say that the beta will only be available to WWDC attendees?

[.Neo]

Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard build 9A499 is believed to be the first widespread seeding of the software since June. At that time, Apple treated attendees at its annual developers conference to an exclusive preview of build 9A466, later broadening distribution of that same build to its vast Apple Developer Connection community.

According to people familiar with this week's near 7-gigabyte seeding, the new build is noticeably snappier than the one it replaces. Those same people, however, continue to report that software is rife with bugs, making it somewhat unstable.

"I'm recommending to other developers that they stick with the earlier 9A466 build," one said. "[The latest build] is very buggy."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07...pard_build.html

[RadishTM Veteran]

Oh dear :(

Radish?

[.Neo]

Yeah I thought the same thing. It makes me wonder if Apple is going to make their October deadline. :/

[Quillz]

If I can track down the latest build, I'll give my own mini-review. When I boot into the WWDC build, though, I'm still surprised how amazingly stable it is. I wouldn't worry about Apple missing the October deadline, stuff like this happens all the time with Firefox builds, for example, and even uTorrent, where a "public" beta will be stable, and the quieter, internal releases are usually much less so.

[.Neo]

Runs slow as hell over here, the WWDC07 build. Even on my friend's MacBook Pro there's a noticeable overal lag.

[Quillz]

It runs pretty quickly off my external hard drive, almost as fast as my native installation of Tiger.

[divinatum]

9a499 isn't too bad. I only had 1 crash of a background service. Nothing major.

[Scirwode]

If I can track down the latest build, I'll give my own mini-review. When I boot into the WWDC build, though, I'm still surprised how amazingly stable it is. I wouldn't worry about Apple missing the October deadline, stuff like this happens all the time with Firefox builds, for example, and even uTorrent, where a "public" beta will be stable, and the quieter, internal releases are usually much less so.

A store in a nearby shopping mall here has the newest build and I was surprised with how well everything worked. The wireless, computer sharing and many more were working properly and it seems to be a bit smoother than the WWDC build. One thing I notice though is that Quick Look took a long time to load images especially documents. The OS was running on an iMac Core 2 Duo.

Scirwode

[divinatum]

Not sure what happened, but somehow I managed to freeze my mouse & keyboard (Maybe pulling out the USB Mighty mouse and going to the laptop trackpad did it) but that's the only major thing I've noticed in my short time with the build. It definitely does feel snappier than 9a466. There is a new wallpaper available in the build Sea Mist Blue (Although no new Aqua wallpaper (Maybe Steve wasn't kidding when he said that. :unsure:)

No new features that I've seen in the hour I've been playing with this, but I really doubt there will be *many* new features (There might be some) due to the current time and target release date, Apple might be starting the bug squashing process and frozen the features.

[PyX]

Yeah, there are some new features...

Right click button on the finder icon gives different things and there's now a nice Path option in the Finder :D

I didn't try the build though...it seems that it would be a lot faster, but buggier. Yeah, WWDC 2007's build was insanely slow here on my external drive on a 24" iMac...

Edit : Could you PM me where you found 9A499? :p

[fishrman]

Sea Mist Blue

It's like they took the current one, stuck it in Photoshop for less than half a second, ran some cheesy adjustment to the Hue/Saturation, and then called it "Sea Mist Blue"

The hell :s?!

[osirisX]

I was bored and curious to see as to how Apple changed the wallpaper in Photoshop.

To create your own Sea Mist Blue wallpaper, follow these simple steps!

1. Open Sea Mist in Photoshop.

2. Create a Hue/Saturation layer with these setting:

-Hue: 207.

-Saturation: 13.

-Lightness: 0.

3. Create a Colour Balance layer with these setting:

-Shadows: 0, 0, 0.

-Midtones: 0, 0, 0.

-Highlights: -15, 0, +16.

4. Set the opacity of this layer to 73%

5. Get the Magic Wand tool and have it set to a Tolerance of 32 and uncheck Contiguous. Select a part of the clouds in the upper left. Then go to the Select Menu > Modify > Feather. Set the Feather to 5.

6. Set your foreground colour to a light grey.

7. Click on the layer mask for the Colour Balance layer and fill with the light grey.

8. Duplicate the Colour Balance layer and change its settings to this:

-Shadows: 0, 0, 0.

-Midtones: 0, -8, 0.

-Highlights: 0, 0, +3.

9. Create another Colour Balance layer with these settings:

-Shadows: 0, 0, 0.

-Midtones: 0, 0, 0.

-Highlights: 0, 0, +15.

10. Get the Magic Wand tool and select the misty bit in the middle. Then go to the Select Menu > Modify > Feather. Set the Feather to 5.

11. Press Cmd+Shift+I to inverse the selection.

12. Change your foreground colour to Black. Click on the layer mask for the 3rd Colour Balance layer and fill it with the Black.

And there you have it, your very own Sea Mist Blue! :p

Here is my result:

[PL_ Veteran]

Sea Mist Blue

Depressing :unsure:

[LTD]

It runs pretty quickly off my external hard drive, almost as fast as my native installation of Tiger.

Same here, but it's on my internal HD. I wiped Tiger and put on Leopard, as you know. This was quite a while ago. Been using it as my everyday OS. Runs great. I think Safari crashed once, but that's it.

That path feature in Finder (in build 9a499) should be a nice finishing touch to an already much-improved (if not great) Finder.

I'm happy with build 9a466, but if Apple misses their October deadline, I might just hunt down 9a499.

drygyn, have you been using Time Machine? If not, you're missing out. It's already saved me once. Works like a charm on 9a466.

[fishrman]

To create your own Sea Mist Blue wallpaper, follow these simple steps!

*snip*

Ok, a bit ( ;) ) more work when you chizzle down to the specifics, but still :p.

And yeah, as for Time Machine, I've never been all that scared without a backup application, but it's nice to know that it's there when you need it. The only drawback is that it does its backups at what seem to be set intervals, which means if you create a file in between them, and then delete it...well, you get the picture. So it's not quite instantaneous, but for most backup and restore purposes, it should fit the bill.

[furby]

Saw on think secret

built-in support for Google Talk in iChat

Does that mean you can do voice chat and or isight chat with a google account? I'm guessing not but maybe someone with 9a499 build could confirm? Thanks

[fishrman]

I believe Google Talk support was formally visible in 9a466, but then again, it's based upon the Jabber network anyways, so if you want to get technical...it's been there for a while.

As for a/v capabilities, I don't use Google Talk myself, so you'll have to see about that.

[divinatum]

I believe you can video/voice while using Jabber in 10.4. I'm not 100% positive but I believe I did test this with someone a while back.

[Menge]

I'm quite certain that iChat in 10.4 allowed you to voice chat with GTalk users. I recall seeing it. I never use iChat, though... might be wrong.

/me wants new screenies for this latest build :D

[LTD]

Ok, a bit ( ;) ) more work when you chizzle down to the specifics, but still :p.

And yeah, as for Time Machine, I've never been all that scared without a backup application, but it's nice to know that it's there when you need it. The only drawback is that it does its backups at what seem to be set intervals, which means if you create a file in between them, and then delete it...well, you get the picture. So it's not quite instantaneous, but for most backup and restore purposes, it should fit the bill.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that as soon as you make a change to the filesystem (i.e., addition of a file), Time Machine saves the change to the backup list. I haven't been paying very close attention to it, as it's very hassle-free, but it seems to go on often enough when I'm, saving downloads, etc. Now it might not be instantaneous, but it seems fairly quick. I'll have to test this.

But I'm glad you mentioned this point.