The PRE game fun...

[simsie]

has someone noticed that there is a guy right at the end of the film? at 1:37

maybe it's the same guy you discussed before? he must be there for a reason.

I thought i saw something when the camera wizzes off her. Could just be the camera man moving the camera fast and catching a stage-hand or other camera man by mistake.

[sinjor32]

I must discard my theory about conection between events and celestial bodies.

Unfortunatly no corelation there. I checked everything visible at the times given on the web page.

All I can see there is:

#1.

1st event

5 days

5 events

7 days or 1 week

5 events

7 days or 1 week

1 event

#2.

las vegas -8.00 GMT

los angeles -8.00 GMT

sydney +11.00 GMT

miami -5.00 GMT

austin -6.00 GMT

phoenix -7.00 GMT

singapore +8.00 GMT

berlin +1.00 GMT

london 0.00 GMT 19.00 Local Time

toronto -5.00 GMT

san francisco -8.00 GMT

seattle -8.00 GMT

#3.

If Loki vanishes and reapears in citys and Seattle is last on the list should we find the mising city or location?

[Brody McKee]

May just me being picky, what do you think?

Well.... I think it might be something - it happens right as she says 'timeless' and it appears to fade in, then out very quickly, not like an encoding error at all.

[Brody McKee]

I must discard my theory about conection between events and celestial bodies.

Unfortunatly no corelation there. I checked everything visible at the times given on the web page.

Tried looking at hours?

If Loki vanishes and reapears in citys and Seattle is last on the list should we find the mising city or location?

Seattle = Microsoft home. Where do you suggest the missing city's are?

[mad_onion]

Las Vegas, Nevada

Monday, 8 January 2007, 6:30:00 pm

Los Angeles, California

Saturday, 13 January 2007, 9:00:00 am

Sydney, Austrailia

Miami, Florida

Austin, Texas

Saturday, 13 January 2007, 1:00:00 pm

Phoenix, Arizona

Saturday, 13 January 2007, 1:02:00 pm

Singpore

Saturday, 20 January 2007, 4:30:00 am

Berlin, Germany

Saturday, 20 January 2007, 10:00:00 am

London, England

Saturday, 20 January 2007, 11:00:00 am

Toronto, Canada

Saturday, 20 January 2007, 4:00:00 pm

San Francisco, California

Saturday, 20 January 2007, 7:00:00 pm

Seattle, Washington

Saturday, 27 January 2007, 6:00:00 pm

so the times above are all PST right?

so to get them in local time you have to add on however many hours. so london is 8 hours ahead of PST so it is at 7pm local time in london right?

[malcolmst]

Phoenix, Arizona

Saturday, 13 January 2007, 1:02:00 pm

1:02 pm??? anyone else notice how weird that is :s?

[Brody McKee]

so the times above are all PST right?so to get them in local time you have to add on however many hours. so london is 8 hours ahead of PST so it is at 7pm local time in london right?

I would have thought that they were native times... but I might be wrong...

[yakumo]

why isn't anyone making more of an issue of the 9 digits across the paintings in the video? ignoring it just cos it was the most prominent thing?

[malcolmst]

why isn't anyone making more of an issue of the 9 digits across the paintings in the video? ignoring it just cos it was the most prominent thing?

I saw that, didn't think much of it since a lot of them are 0, but I guess it might be important.

"0C" was on one of the paintings, it is 12 in hexadecimal

[novastar]

it's also 00001100 in binary, maybe the numbers could lead to another cypher picture

[sinjor32]

Tried looking at hours?

Seattle = Microsoft home. Where do you suggest the missing city's are?

Yes, I looked for anything with repeatng pattern on all cites. ISS, Moon, Sun, Sunsets & Sunrises, Venus and other things that can be seen with naked eye, but nothing came up.

I think that some of the codes will reveal GPS locations or something like that and that probably we will have one extra location. This is of course my logic, may not be true, but I will keep an eye for it.

I think that frames in the movie tell the basic plot of things to happen.

#1. Loki is the girl in the movie

#2. She's a magician

#3. She will perfom a vanishing act on that spot in front of the fountain

#4. She will reapear on new location in LA 5 days leter

#5. She will then again do the same thing until the last vanishing act in Seattle

#6. Task is difficult or immposible when you have two locations at the same time like Miami and Austin so maybe one of those is a decoy, or she has a twin sister.

What is not clear yet and I will ask someone to help. Is that family tree frame. Can someone scan that page and post it. Please! :)

[simsie]

What is not clear yet and I will ask someone to help. Is that family tree frame. Can someone scan that page and post it. Please!

If its in the movie, gimme the time it occurs and i'll get a screenshot of it for you (if it is in loki.wmv anyway)

[NodakPaul]

1:02 pm??? anyone else notice how weird that is :s?

It isn't 1:02 pm anymore. They changed it to 3:00 pm. I don't know if this was something they changed or if the original poster read it wrong.

The fact that all the misspelled words are now spelled correctly still intrigues me. Call me crazy, but MS has invested enough time and effort into a project like this to have caught four glaring spelling mistakes on one page... I still think NIAC is a clue.

[Zenit]

why isn't anyone making more of an issue of the 9 digits across the paintings in the video? ignoring it just cos it was the most prominent thing?

I saw it too, but I think it looks like ooDC. ooDC is a program where you can dowload stuff, so I think that someone maybe has put a clue there. The question is just where, there's a lot of different hubs there.

[mad_onion]

yeah there is a man at the end of the video, its when the camera spins round right at the very end. i mean i can imagine the other guy standing there is just a mistake but why would they not cut that bit of video from the end of it if it isnt supposed to be there. :s

i dont know, everytime i watch that video it makes me laugh because it reminds me of porn i mean the music in the background is straight out of a porn film and the poor acting and general cameraship is similar to that of a porn film lol :)

[simsie]

Well.... I think it might be something - it happens right as she says 'timeless' and it appears to fade in, then out very quickly, not like an encoding error at all.

It also occurs slightly at 00:58 as she says "remember" (well, appears to)

[sinjor32]

this is the family tree, maybe there is a difference between this page and original in the book. If someone has the book, scan of this page would help.

[Zenit]

I have thaught about two things:

At first I found out that NIAC might stand for "Normalized Image of the Absolute Conic". So I searched for that.

Google found this page: http://www.actapress.com/PaperInfo.aspx?PaperID=27885

This might or might not be in the game. But it talks about vanishing point.

I also realized that one of the clocks in the movie is broken. I think the lady puts a screwdriver in the box so she can fix it. this might mean that one of the timers is counting wrong and we have to find out why so.

I hope this will help solving the riddle.

[malcolmst]

this is the family tree, maybe there is a difference between this page and original in the book. If someone has the book, scan of this page would help.

Don't have the book, but this site seems to have a text version of the family tree: http://members.pcug.org.au/~ronwells/580-9.htm

I have thaught about two things:

At first I found out that NIAC might stand for "Normalized Image of the Absolute Conic". So I searched for that.

Google found this page: http://www.actapress.com/PaperInfo.aspx?PaperID=27885

This might or might not be in the game. But it talks about vanishing point.

I also realized that one of the clocks in the movie is broken. I think the lady puts a screwdriver in the box so she can fix it. this might mean that one of the timers is counting wrong and we have to find out why so.

I hope this will help solving the riddle.

You lost me there :s where did you get NIAC from?

I would take a look, but I can't access that journal for free :( http://www.csis.hku.hk/~kykwong/publicatio...zhang_sip06.pdf has the same article, but it's down right now and google doesn't have it cached

Edit: my bad... google does have it cached, just no images

Edit 2: if anyone wants to see a cached version: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:8REzeM...t=clnk&cd=1

Zenit, would you be able to upload the pdf? I'm guessing it's alright because the authors have it available for public access

Edited December 27, 2006 by malcolmst

[Wyco]

it does seem to be up for me...

[malcolmst]

I don't really think that's related though, it just might give a bit more information about the conics. it seems to be a legitimate published paper.

[sinjor32]

About the frames:

Left frame= 00 000

Right frame=00 00 0

[Zyphrax]

I am trying to read what is written on the scrapbook. One of the things I found is "Space Time" (although of course Im not quite sure)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

Even Euler is mentioned in the Wiki article:

"A compact manifold can be turned into a spacetime if, and only if, its Euler characteristic is 0."

[Karl Sheldon]

Anyone noticed that the www.vanishingpoint.com page now has a link to wineflower.com, that was not on the page when this game started, it was not a link I mean, does not seam to be linked but its an avenue no one would seem to have looked at fully, is there device linked to micosofts lifedrive maybe and does it link to Vista in some way ?

Congrats all who have a Laptop nice Christmas gift eh!

[malcolmst]

Anyone noticed that the www.vanishingpoint.com page now has a link to wineflower.com, that was not on the page when this game started, it was not a link I mean, does not seam to be linked but its an avenue no one would seem to have looked at fully, is there device linked to micosofts lifedrive maybe and does it link to Vista in some way ?

Congrats all who have a Laptop nice Christmas gift eh!

Both those domains are registered by Network Solutions, vanishingpointgame.com and myvanishingpoint.com are Go Daddy. I don't really think vanishingpoint.com is related in any way. myvanishingpoint.com might be though :p

Yeah :D that would be great to get a free laptop randomly in the mail... I should start up a blog.....