Dogga Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) Here's a random idea... is MS affiliated with any virtual reality worlds like Second Life? The phrase "Physical presence not required" still lingers with me, and it seems out of place. If "physical" presence isn't required, maybe it doesn't exist in the physical world or conventional maps. That would explain the weird, exact precision (to the hundredths) that aren't common in cartography. A world like Second Life wouldn't have a traditional lat/long grid. Also, in a video clip posted by someone a few pages back, talking about the Vanishing Point Game at CES apparently, the guy being interviewed mentions that the winner will win a trip "to the vanishing point to see the ultimate vista". Would that imply that the "vanishing point" is outside the world? Maybe the idea of the vanishing point is a series of vectors drawn on the globe that all point to a specific place that would appear in space to be a "vanishing point" if looked at properly. I'm throwing around ideas here... we're running out of leads!! Edited January 29, 2007 by Dogga Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 BTW, to make it more interesting, the coordinates I posted in my previous message, point to another mathematical number ... We can have a lenghty discussion later if it's a number or not. Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmst Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Does anyone know if there's a way to search for coordinates on live maps? I know google earth/maps has something, but haven't seen it on live. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guardians Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think your wrong, it is 4 names. When you make a submission, it's signed -L.O.K.I. All capitals seperated by periods. That's how I would intial four names. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thsartori Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 BTW, to make it more interesting, the coordinates I posted in my previous message,point to another mathematical number ... We can have a lenghty discussion later if it's a number or not. Cheers now that's funny Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanderNZ Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) We have an update!! There's now a link on the word smallest places that leads to a [seemingly] small scale map!! Edited January 29, 2007 by JanderNZ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Si Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hmm... Arkansas or Mississippi :s What we need is something that makes the line straight :D I'll try to figure out some more coordinate math maybe... From the map it looks like the destination is important rather than the route. Has anybody tried using Roman Miles (TALIN -Latin clue) A unit of distance called a mile was first used by the Romans and denoted a distance of 1000 (double) steps (mille passus or mille passuum) or 5000 Roman feet, and corresponded to about 1618 modern yards[1]. Our current definition of a mile as 5280 feet (as opposed to 5000) dates to the 13th century, and was confirmed by statute in the reign of Queen Elizabeth I; the change was needed to accommodate the rod which (as opposed to the mile) was a measure ensconced in legal and commercial documents. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanderNZ Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 From the map it looks like the destination is important rather than the route. Unless this is the start location rather than the end location. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588272995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer77 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 It could be but from the location of the link it would seem to be the end location. If it were the start location it would have been more of a clue to put the link at the Mystery Place or start of the directions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmst Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Loki! she's really helping us out with this one... I think the only way we may have straight lines is to zoom in very far, which will take a very long time... oh well... I'll try it anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamodefender Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 They keep adding clues, I guess they want someone to win pretty fast. So do I, every clue screws me up even more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanderNZ Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 They keep adding clues, I guess they want someone to win pretty fast. So do I, every clue screws me up even more. I want someone to get it fast as well. Then I can get back to actually working on my masters thesis. :pc: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer77 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 They keep adding clues, I guess they want someone to win pretty fast. So do I, every clue screws me up even more. I was reading the official rules and according to them the whole thing is over tomorrow sometime. They will make the drawings on the next day but they do not differentiate between the drawing and the name on the processor as far as the end date to the event. They have to get someone to guess it. If they are puting up clues that would suggest no one has yet and they obviously need to help us because we are spinning our wheels. They obviously thought it was easier than this so my bet is that we are overanalyzing it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 OK FEW UPDATES!!! 1. Smallest Places --is a LINK..click on that...and thanks to JanderNZ we already have an image in Comment # 1706 2. Someone on my forum had a good insight...I will quote him here " Quote - (BoomBoom @ Jan 29 2007, 12:22) Here's my guess based on previous anagrams, puzzle parts and ideas that all of you have supplied - Remembering the Rabbit puzzle was Presto, lead to someone saying Change-O change an "o" to an "d" in "Odessa Oblast" = last dos based I'm betting the answer is "Last Dos Based Windows", which is vanishing with the introduction of Vista. Comments? " 3. Someone had pointed out that after submission, the page is signed L.O.K.I. seperating each letter by a period. DEFINETLY four different words. May not be an answer, but may be a further clue. 4. On the map, the last destination, according to some forums, turns out to be Isola, Mississippi. or Insula in LATIN......... 5. Perhaps "LATIN" is what stands for "L." in "L.O.K.I."...ANY THOUGHTS??? :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftp222 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I can finally add something to this discussion. The X on the map points to Hardee, Mississippi. I have been in this genera area for quite some time, but not this exact location. What relevance this has to the final name, I?m not sure yet. Hardee is in Issaquena county, but this is the only relation I can find. How does TANLI play into this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanderNZ Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 From vanishingpointwiki.com The "smallest place" text on the page is a link. It shows a map with a red X right on Hardee, Mississippi. -Matt Edit: A second too slow! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer77 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Good Job. That is exactly the pic!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanderNZ Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I can finally add something to this discussion. The X on the map points to Hardee, Mississippi. I have been in this genera area for quite some time, but not this exact location.What relevance this has to the final name, I?m not sure yet. Hardee is in Issaquena county, but this is the only relation I can find. How does TANLI play into this? Is Hardee the lowest we can go in terms of the location? The emphasis definitely seems to be on the small aspect. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Quick Note: The L.O.K.I. seperation by dots suggests that its their names. They also have 4 majors: History, Math, Physics, Drama Queen" (as they said in video).....L can stand for LATIN (History)...and so on.... ALSO NOTE** LATIN does not necessarily have to be latin...it also may be TALIN, a city in the former USSR Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftp222 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Is Hardee the lowest we can go in terms of the location? The emphasis definitely seems to be on the small aspect. As far as Live Maps go, yes I believe so. I was looking for famous people that lived there and trying a whitepages lookup of residents. Not much found thus far though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mox6 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 what ever happened with the Murmuring rock Project thing. is it still a dead end? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garykagan Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I can finally add something to this discussion. The X on the map points to Hardee, Mississippi. I have been in this genera area for quite some time, but not this exact location.What relevance this has to the final name, I?m not sure yet. Hardee is in Issaquena county, but this is the only relation I can find. How does TANLI play into this? I need to know how you found that. What could you have used to find that? amazing.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmad59 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Okay, Sorry to sound like an idiot, but WHERE DO THEY KEEP ADDING CLUES??? I am going brain dead from reading and mapping and google earth, to MS Map live ... HELP ME!! :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquareblack Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 <sigh> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukatush Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I can finally add something to this discussion. The X on the map points to Hardee, Mississippi. I have been in this genera area for quite some time, but not this exact location.What relevance this has to the final name, I?m not sure yet. Hardee is in Issaquena county, but this is the only relation I can find. How does TANLI play into this? I don't feel too bad now. I thought I was way out to lunch...I was only off by 100 miles (over towards Shreveport). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/533452-puzzle-box-4/page/69/#findComment-588273132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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