F1 World Championship 2007 Thread

[Fourjays Veteran]

is the next race at the nurburgring ?!? thats like 8-10 mins long in a super car!

Only the old one. This is the new Nurburgring they are going to.

Massa drove the best race there today after stalling it. Hamilton just wasn't quick - was either a problem in the car (risk of engine blowing so they turned it down) or problems with the setup. Alonso did a good job with a good strategy. Raikkonen earned this win more than France. Ferrari are the fastest car at the moment. Hopefully McLaren get some new bits on their for Germany, and go waaaaaaay faster. :D

ferrari going to cream the race, otherwise mclaren found another ****** to do some dirty job.

I'm not quite sure what's going on with all this scandal thing (if that is what you are referring to). One thing is certain is that McLarens victories weren't down to it. Firstly Ferrari's wind tunnel was down for a good month so they couldn't develop the car much. Secondly, it would take a hell of a lot longer than one or two weeks to produce good results after receiving information (as is suggested). The parts that went on the McLaren to make it faster would have been developed sometime in advance.

Additionally, there are a number of "weird" things to the scandal. Ferrari supposedly knew Stepney had given the information, way before Monaco. Why wait a month plus, before reporting it to the police and governing body? Why wait til Stepney is on holiday and unable to defend himself? Why would Stepney, a well respected member of the Ferrari team for 14 years and one of the main people behind its success in that time, give/sell documents when he knows fully well he would get caught? I doubt he needs the money, unless he has gambling debts or something similar.

Also the sabotage story is weird too - other team's technical directors have said that "poisoning" the fuel is impossible. You'd have to poison ALL the cars for it to succeed due to the various tests, checks and comparisons done on it by the FIA - something Stepney would know about.

Don't forget, it is also possible McLaren information was passed to Ferrari.

I think either it is simply a case of Stepney was desparate for money and sold the documents, or Ferrari are making it all up for some (very) weird reason - which wouldn't surprise me.

Edited July 8, 2007 by Fourjays

[Neil]

Only the old one. This is the new Nurburgring they are going to.

Massa drove the best race there today after stalling it. Hamilton just wasn't quick - was either a problem in the car (risk of engine blowing so they turned it down) or problems with the setup. Alonso did a good job with a good strategy. Raikkonen earned this win more than France. Ferrari are the fastest car at the moment. Hopefully McLaren get some new bits on their for Germany, and go waaaaaaay faster. :D

I'm not quite sure what's going on with all this scandal thing (if that is what you are referring to). One thing is certain is that McLarens victories weren't down to it. Firstly Ferrari's wind tunnel was down for a good month so they couldn't develop the car much. Secondly, it would take a hell of a lot longer than one or two weeks to produce good results after receiving information (as is suggested). The parts that went on the McLaren to make it faster would have been developed sometime in advance.

Additionally, there are a number of "weird" things to the scandal. Ferrari supposedly knew Stepney had given the information, way before Monaco. Why wait a month plus, before reporting it to the police and governing body? Why wait til Stepney is on holiday and unable to defend himself? Why would Stepney, a well respected member of the Ferrari team for 14 years and one of the main people behind its success in that time, give/sell documents when he knows fully well he would get caught? I doubt he needs the money, unless he has gambling debts or something similar.

Also the sabotage story is weird too - other team's technical directors have said that "poisoning" the fuel is impossible. You'd have to poison ALL the cars for it to succeed due to the various tests, checks and comparisons done on it by the FIA - something Stepney would know about.

Don't forget, it is also possible McLaren information was passed to Ferrari.

I think either it is simply a case of Stepney was desparate for money and sold the documents, or Ferrari are making it all up for some (very) weird reason - which wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah have to give it to Masa that was a good come back, the Mclaren just was not quick enough, Ferrari are clearly on form after the States.

The Stepney Scandal is strange, my theory is Ferrari want rid of him, he has been a bust up before over many members leaving at the end of last year, this could be a scape goat to get rid of him. Also him and the Mclaren team man were both offered jobs at Honda, which means they must be friends or know each other well? They could of pasted information for years, but it would not affected this years cars anyway.

Well done to Kimi and Masa though, they beat the Mclaren's on pass hands down today, also hoping for a revisied Mclaren in Germany.

[kyro]

was i surprised of result... no :), was i surprised federer won Wimbledon , nO :)... its a perfect day for me. everything falling right in its place (well. almost.... Massa should had been on podium but its all good.

[CrashG]

Great race from Massa. This season has been fantastic so far. Great battle between Ferrari and McLaren. It would be nice to see the BMW and Renault get up there and join the fight too.

[Martyn]

The United States Grand Prix at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will not be on the Formula One calendar in 2008.

After recent meetings, Indianapolis Motor Speedway CEO Tony George and Formula One Management Ltd CEO Bernie Ecclestone 'mutually agreed' to not schedule Formula One racing at the 'Brickyard' next year.

"After several discussions, Bernie Ecclestone and I were unable to agree how to keep Formula One in Indianapolis for the near term," George explained.

"However, we have agreed to leave the door open for a potential future date.

"It has been a pleasure having the United States Grand Prix at Indianapolis, and I hope that as we approach our Centennial Era at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, an opportunity might present itself that would allow its return."

In June this year, at the 2007 event, George and Ecclestone agreed to a mid-July deadline for a decision about future events.

The news means that, unless an alternative venue is found, there will be no Formula One action on American soil in 2008.

The Indianapolis Motor Speedway first hosted a round of the 'modern' Formula One World Championship back in 2000.

It also hosted the 'famous' six-car farce in 2005, when teams using Michelin tyres withdrew after safety concerns related to a number of failures occurring on the banked turn 13.

That is a shame to be honest as I quite like Indy. I am still devastated they took off Suzaka :(

[Fourjays Veteran]

I'll miss Indy too. Damn good racing there.

I don't know how it all works exactly, but if Bernie is the only person in charge of what tracks make the calendar, he shouldn't be. It seems to be a case of "which tracks will pay more" than tracks that give good racing and/or hold a traditional value to the sport.

I'd like to see a true "World" Championship calendar.

[Crazysah]

Race is tomorrow and Hamilton and Massa looking good.

[CrashG]

I'll miss Indy too. Damn good racing there.

I don't know how it all works exactly, but if Bernie is the only person in charge of what tracks make the calendar, he shouldn't be. It seems to be a case of "which tracks will pay more" than tracks that give good racing and/or hold a traditional value to the sport.

I'd like to see a true "World" Championship calendar.

Hopefully they'll find a new track here in the States.

[ludeboy12]

I'm kinda glad actually. Never really cared for the racing there. I'd rather see the race on a dedicated circuit, not a circle jerk track with an infield.

[Fergie]

Nasty crash with Hamilton just now, something happened with his right tyre.

[kyro]

nice!.

and someone update final positions for tomorrow :)

Rooting for ferrari :)

[digitalsoft]

so annoying about lewis. hope he's alrite.

[xithium]

That was quite a nasty accident, but it's great that Lewis appears to be OK and there's no lasting damage.

[Fourjays Veteran]

Nasty crash. Hopefully he can race tomorrow. I'll be interested to see how quickly he can make it through the field.

[Shibby]

I've heard there was a gun failure which made the wheel loose.

[kyro]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/motorsport/r...4080211167.html

Ferrari's new recruit Kimi Raikkonen will start from pole position for tomorrow's Australian Formula One Grand Prix, with Australian Mark Webber a respectable seventh.

Raikkonen came out on top in today's three-tiered elimination qualifying session, with world champion Fernando Alonso to start alongside him on the grid for tomorrow's 58-lap race.

The Finn clocked a 1min 26.072sec lap in the last session of the knockout qualifying format, with the slowest six drivers in each of the first two sessions eliminated.

Alonso was second quickest, four-tenths of a second slower, with BMW-Sauber's Nick Heidfeld third.

massa 16th. hope he makes strong starts...

hope its all red tomorrow :) ferrari obviously back after plumbing out that conspirator.

[mtaj]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/motorsport/r...4080211167.html

Ferrari's new recruit Kimi Raikkonen will start from pole position for tomorrow's Australian Formula One Grand Prix, with Australian Mark Webber a respectable seventh.

Raikkonen came out on top in today's three-tiered elimination qualifying session, with world champion Fernando Alonso to start alongside him on the grid for tomorrow's 58-lap race.

The Finn clocked a 1min 26.072sec lap in the last session of the knockout qualifying format, with the slowest six drivers in each of the first two sessions eliminated.

Alonso was second quickest, four-tenths of a second slower, with BMW-Sauber's Nick Heidfeld third.

massa 16th. hope he makes strong starts...

hope its all red tomorrow :) ferrari obviously back after plumbing out that conspirator.

that's from the Aus GP... March 2007...

these are the results of todays quali: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/7/6508.html

[kyro]

heh my bad. was xcited.. no one was posting results and just crash talks..

Thanks for link.

[sharpy2k4]

What the hell, this is insane! amazing how Hamilton managed to keep the engine ticking over which is awesomely done.

[kyro]

Common ferrari.... :)

massa on lighter fuel... i don't think this strategy will work... lets see. Rainkkonen looking good. but held up by slow car.. Go red :D

[.mcman]

Europe GP Race Results

Alooooooooooooooooooonso! best race so far!!! Thank you, rain!!

[profets]

what a crazy race. massa and alonso didnt look to happy at each other when they were getting ready to go up to the podium.

if it wasnt for the rain ferrari looked like a good start for a 1-2

[xithium]

All credit to Alonso, he came back at Massa to win in the final laps. He showed why he's twice world champion.

It was certainly an eventful race though, it's just a shame Winkelhock couldn't hold on longer. :D

[Shibby]

I loved watching this race, it was pretty fun to see everyone slide off and for it to be really jumbled up.

Nice to see Lewis did try to fight back, but the gap was so big it was basicly impossible.

[CrashG]

Wow, what a crazy start to the race. I'd like to find out if Kimi's problem was really hydraulic failure or a fuel pick-up problem (ie. failure to pit so he could pick-up fuel :) ) If it wasn't for bad luck he'd have no luck at all.

Way to go Winkelhock... too bad it didn't last.