F1 World Championship 2007 Thread

[ahmz]

Massa had the death stare happening in the press conference, lol. I think he mentioned that Alonso accused him of hitting him deliberately, which he obviously didn't. Alonso was apologising throughout the whole conference.

[Fergie]

I missed the first 4 laps and watching the re-run now, that was an insane start!

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

Common ferrari.... :)

massa on lighter fuel... i don't think this strategy will work... lets see. Rainkkonen looking good. but held up by slow car.. Go red :D

fuel didn't help this race :p u needed an outboard boat engine at the start :p the F1 cars were to light and went over the puddles

i think Lewis did an incredible job, he unlapped himself and started eating at the pack, Funny if he wasn't actually lapped by anyone :p

i like the effort by spyker :D

[Kureb]

I think Massa is great as Hamilton, Alonso and Raikkonen.

And McLaren have faster and resistent cars, good in different situations of weather...

Ferrari needs to improve resistance... lets see next race.

Alonso sometimes looks like a child.

If he dont like to be touched, go race in rally.

[xithium]

And McLaren have faster and resistent cars, good in different situations of weather...

Ferrari needs to improve resistance... lets see next race.

It was interesting to note, the McLarens clearly performed better than Ferrari on the wet parts of the track and seem much better suited to changeable conditions. IIRC the McLaren cars put in consistently better lap times than Massa during the parts of the race when conditions were bad.

That's in contrast to the previous couple of races where Ferrari seem to have had the better race car.

[kyro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8t4F_1wcOU <<< wish i understood. now atleast you know who is going to play tag tag in all next races :)

[sundayx Veteran]

What were they arguing about, what happened to them in the race, I missed the race, can someone elaborate/point a link for?

[kyro]

all clips showing the incident are "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Formula One Management".... himm sneaky little fia ppl.... ALL other clips on racing are still there at youtube....

i think only few laps were remaining or maybe just 2 laps when track got wet and ferrari was under-performing .... alonso could not get pass so he simply rammed ferrari out of way (there were huge marks on mclaren you might hav seen in starting clip pasted earlier) and went by... massa was trying to defend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2nmFF47nX4&NR=1 found it :p , i dont think alonso did anything wrong.. but massa tried to close or come back late....massa's car was simply slow..

Anyway.. massa has more motivation :p

Edited July 23, 2007 by kyro

[.mcman]

i think only few laps were remaining or maybe just 2 laps when track got wet and ferrari was under-performing .... alonso could not get pass so he simply rammed ferrari out of way (there were huge marks on mclaren you might hav seen in starting clip pasted earlier) and went by... massa was trying to defend.

Massa rammed Alonso when Alonso was already first. And that's what they were arguing about. I read translation in one of YouTube videos that is now deleted....

[Shibby]

I'd call it 50 - 50

Alonso was first out, then masa came out pretty much right next to him. Both wanted the racing line so its 50 - 50

[acnpt]

I have to say that it was the best formula 1 start ive seen for ages.

Shame about Lewis, if only he changed his tires a little later, but it was a last ditch gamble so can't really complain.

[F K Schneider]

In deed I hope R?ikk?nen and Ferrari will win the final championship. Though Ferrari has improved their car, they still have a lot to do to catch up with McLaren. McLaren's perfomance, together with Alonso's and Hamilton's, is so great. It's a little difficult for Ferrari to win.

The European Grand Prix is really nice, one of the most changing races since 2003, I think. Pity to see Massa lost his lead when the rain cam:(:( Germans bad luck on their homeland - four of the nine retired are Germans, especially Nick Heidfeld hit Ralf Schumacher.

The races in 2007 are much bette:):)

[kyro]

In deed I hope R?ikk?nen and Ferrari will win the final championship. Though Ferrari has improved their car, they still have a lot to do to catch up with McLaren. McLaren's perfomance, together with Alonso's and Hamilton's, is so great. It's a little difficult for Ferrari to win.

The European Grand Prix is really nice, one of the most changing races since 2003, I think. Pity to see Massa lost his lead when the rain cam:(:( Germans bad luck on their homeland - four of the nine retired are Germans, especially Nick Heidfeld hit Ralf Schumacher.

The races in 2007 are much bette:):)

ya, Nick just blatantly rammed , that was clear ram atleast. if he is not seriously penalised , then i dont know what more has to happen for a serious penalty.

And Ferrari need to get their machine design/document/specs back from McLaren and go fine-reading again.... I am sure they now releasing how important it is to go through documentation and recommendation put forward by their engineers .... look at McLaren....they have improved soo muc:p:p

Dont think ferrari can win anything .... if Raikkonen had been in top three at Germany then there was good hope for sure... he is number 1 in ferrari camp and his car is the one going bust and not even finishing so many times... makes me really reallly wonder... whatsup with that.

[iShakeel]

<<snip>> ...and his car is the one going bust and not even finishing so many times... makes me really reallly wonder... whatsup with that.

Well ya, his car is going bust much more than Massa's and I reckon you would remember that when he was at McLaren it was the same and people used to say that he is hard on the car and I always thought that can't be true... But now I have started to wonder whether its really like that :-) Is it just bad luck or Kimi is really hard on his vehicle.

[F K Schneider]

Dont think ferrari can win anything .... if Raikkonen had been in top three at Germany then there was good hope for sure... he is number 1 in ferrari camp and his car is the one going bust and not even finishing so many times... makes me really reallly wonder... whatsup with that.

I knew nothing about F1 but Ferrari when I was nine.

Since my idol, Michael has left Ferrari, I have been focus on Ferrari's newcomer - Kimi. But he has made me disappointed so many times. To some degree I believe what one of my friends told me - maybe there's something wrong with his driving. No matter in McLaren or Ferrari, the same car, compared to his teammate, why always he? :huh: But it's true that he's really unlucky sometimes.

I like Ferrari's red. It's said that Schumi is jackarooing on Ferrari to practise team management. Happy to hear that...:)

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

no one rammed anyone on purpose ? the Ferrari had a bit of understeer and side swiped Alonso, Not exactly like it made to much difference ? Alonso had the speed even if they didn't touch

[Fourjays Veteran]

Well ya, his car is going bust much more than Massa's and I reckon you would remember that when he was at McLaren it was the same and people used to say that he is hard on the car and I always thought that can't be true... But now I have started to wonder whether its really like that :-) Is it just bad luck or Kimi is really hard on his vehicle.

I have wondered the same. Apparently he once lost the steering wheel mid-corner when driving for Sauber.

[.mcman]

FIA reveals 18-race calendar for 2008

Formula One racing's governing body, the FIA, has confirmed the calendar for the 2008 world championship. The addition of races in Singapore and Valencia in Spain, combined with the omission of a US Grand Prix, makes for 18 rounds - one more than in 2007.

The Australian Grand Prix will kick off proceedings on March 16, followed by Malaysia and Bahrain, before the championship heads to Europe. Turkey has been brought forward to May, while the sole North American round in Canada provisionally retains its traditional June slot.

The Valencia race, to be known as the European Grand Prix, will take place in August, while the other new event, the first-ever Formula One night race, will be staged in Singapore in late September. The season will finish in Brazil at the start of November.

The 2008 calendar in full:

16 Mar Australia

23 Mar Malaysia

6 Apr Bahrain

27 Apr Spain

11 May Turkey

25 May Monaco

8 Jun Canada*

22 Jun France

6 Jul Great Britain

20 Jul Germany

3 Aug Hungary

24 Aug Europe**

7 Sep Italy

14 Sep Belgium

28 Sep Singapore**

12 Oct China

19 Oct Japan

2 Nov Brazil

*Provisional

**Subject to circuit approval

[F K Schneider]

Wondering what it is like to have a night race in Singapore, since there's no forward lights on F1.

McLaren got a too light penalty, I think. Is it called justice? But anyway it's a troublesome case for FIA to pass the judgement.

[.mcman]

Hungary GP Qualifying Results

[Ksg]

WTF Alonso, don't just sit there!

[.mcman]

WTF Alonso, don't just sit there!

I wonder if he did it on purpose :unsure: , Dennis seemed really angry...

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

man, Alonso is really really a sore loser, he timed it perfectly for him to get a lap and Hamilton not too

[Popcorned1]

Yeah, Alonso hates to loose and Dennis was furious. Just hope they don't take each other out on the first corner tomorrow afternoon.

[metallithrax]

Yeah, Alonso hates to loose and Dennis was furious. Just hope they don't take each other out on the first corner tomorrow afternoon.

Not likely.