Bye Bye Mac

[+Fahim S. MVC]

the motion sensor in the macbooks

Hardly innovation...

http://www.paul.sladen.org/thinkpad-r31/accelerometer.html

IBM ThinkPad Accelerometer, aka "Active Protection System"

Announced in November 2003; Probably shipped in 2004 March

[ScottKin]

Other than your last line (which I removed), that's the exact reason I got a mac. I did not want to have to build my system. I don't have time, nor do I care. I clicked "order" on apple.com, and in a few days it was at my house. I plugged it in and it worked. That's what I want.

Your comment only makes sense if you've never heard of Dell, Gateway, FalconNorthwest, Hewlett-Packard, or the dozens of other PC manufacturers & Resellers that you can order pre-built systems.

I'm pretty sure that you've heard of these companies at some point or another, unless you've been living in a cave for the past 15 years. I build systems for my friends as a hobby and charge them a reasonable & fair price - which is exactly what those other companies provide.

--ScottKin

[baskingridge]

... and you can't do that with a PC manufacturer?

Apparently he can't, or he's good at hiding his true intentions :rofl:

PC > Mac, always was, always will be.

[Vice]

I use a Desktop Windows machine and a Macintosh Laptop. I think personally the desktop Macs are way overpriced for what they offer.

iMac: It's just not upgradeable. You can't stick more storage into it without removing the drive that is already in there. It uses a Laptop CPU in a Desktop system, what is the point of that other than Apple saving on enclosure size power and noise? They still charge desktop prices for it however. the GPU isn't upgradeable and it isn't fast. You cant buy a better monitor for it as it has one built in, and you cant change the Optical drive for a Bluray or HD-DVD drive without voiding the warranty (and really what drives even fit). It's just a bad machine, it's like buying a Laptop without any of the benefits of a Laptop.

Mac Pro: Grossly overpriced for the power it offers, they don't innovate the case enough to warrant such a high price tag, it only has software RAID & 4 HD's maximum. The only good thing about this machine is that you can upgrade the Woodcrests to Clovertowns and make it a Octo-Core Mac. That and the pull out RAM side-boards, which are pretty great. Again this machine at stock comes with a 7300GT, that GPU is just so much slower than what you get in competitive systems, everyone keeps saying "get a Mac and dual boot windows to game!" well I can't play any decent games on my 20" ACD with a 7300GT, and if you put a normal windows GPU in there you get a black screen from within Mac OS X which defeats the easeyness of a dual boot machine.

The only Macs I think are decent value are the MacBook Pro's as they offer the MagSafe connector the built in iSight they have a decent enough laptop GPU run passively for the most part and have really nice displays and enclosures. The Mac desktops on the other hand as I said are just useless non-upgradeable overpriced bricks. btw I love my 17" MacBook Pro and I wouldn't trade it for the world. I am just an honest multi-OS user and I can say when something sucks.

[Shuu]

i love my imac.

[macro]

PC > Mac, always was, always will be.

One doesn't have to be better than the other, it depends on your uses. The average Joe who doesn't play video games on their computer and likes a stylish computer that just works and no hassle with hardware problems and virus can use a Mac and be happy. At the same time the hardcores like to build their own system and buy new components all the time for maximum performance, they go for PC's. It's not that hard you guys, to each his own.

[azz0r_wugg]

There is no reason to buy a PC nowadays. You get the benefit of Mac OS X & u can run XP or Vista (don't know about the Mac drivers). Plus u get a beautiful machine.

...and in 3 years time your systems old, can't run Linux and instead of buying a new mobo+processor, you have to buy a whole new mac.

Please, get real.

[sundayx Veteran]

Maybe you'll be interested with a Core 2 Mac Mini coming soon.

[Elliott]

...and in 3 years time your systems old, can't run Linux and instead of buying a new mobo+processor, you have to buy a whole new mac.

Please, get real.

Can't run Linux? :blink: Uh, last I checked, there were both PowerPC and x86 versions of most Linux distros.

[richter]

Hardly innovation...

http://www.paul.sladen.org/thinkpad-r31/accelerometer.html

I've been using that for 3 years on my ThinkPad.

[Shuu]

once a mac hater, always a mac hater.

stop drinking so much haterade, people...

if this were a swamp, you'd be an allihater...

sure, come on up. take the elehater...

[macro]

once a mac hater, always a mac hater.

stop drinking so much haterade, people...

if this were a swamp, you'd be an allihater...

sure, come on up. take the elehater...

No I used to be a mac hater too, I used Windows since 3.11 up until XP, then I tried OSX86 and ended up buying a Mac shortly afterwards :)

[Vice]

I was also a Mac hater, then I got one and I was like "this is amazing".

[Marcel T]

I could almost guarantee that any mac hater hasn't spent even 10 minutes on a Mac running OS X.

If they have, then they ain't hating anymore.

[Titoist]

I could almost guarantee that any mac hater hasn't spent even 10 minutes on a Mac running OS X.

If they have, then they ain't hating anymore.

I am a mac hater, I had a mac mini, used it for 60days.. it was great until it decided not to boot, I called Apple support and they denied all responsibility and hung up on me cause I did not have AppleCare. $900 in 60days down the drain... that would **** anyone off.

Screw a mac.. get a Tablet!

[giga Veteran]

I am a mac hater, I had a mac mini, used it for 60days.. it was great until it decided not to boot, I called Apple support and they denied all responsibility and hung up on me cause I did not have AppleCare. $900 in 60days down the drain... that would **** anyone off.

Screw a mac.. get a Tablet!

:s You should've just went to an Apple Store or called again because all macs have a 1 year warranty. Sounds like you just got someone who had a bad day on the other line.

[Vice]

I am a mac hater, I had a mac mini, used it for 60days.. it was great until it decided not to boot, I called Apple support and they denied all responsibility and hung up on me cause I did not have AppleCare. $900 in 60days down the drain... that would **** anyone off.

Screw a mac.. get a Tablet!

Your claims are dubious but if you give up after they hang up on you once then don't ever call any other customer service number again because you need to put more effort in.

[RaisinCain]

What about the price then?

yep. There's the reason.

Yep. And the reason is you pay for quality. ;)

[lostOnes]

I could almost guarantee that any mac hater hasn't spent even 10 minutes on a Mac running OS X.

If they have, then they ain't hating anymore.

You actually got me to laugh out loud with that one... :whistle:

I own a mac mini, I still don't like macs. I run Ubuntu on it because I can't stand OSX. Please don't make silly comments like you just did :rolleyes: :blink:

Your claims are dubious but if you give up after they hang up on you once then don't ever call any other customer service number again because you need to put more effort in.

But I thought Macs "just work" :laugh:

[mattmatik]

I bought a MacBook this go around after my self-built desktop kept giving me fits. I used to love building my PCs and solving issues for family and friends but now I guess I'm at the point where I just don't want to spend the time on it anymore. I don't game on the computer anymore, either, preferring my 360.

As has been stated previously, it depends on the user and what exactly they want out of it. And personally, I don't agree with the whole "you have to buy a new Mac in 3 years". Actually, you don't. Unless you need specific features, you can easily use a Mac for about 5 years. There are people still running 10.2.

[RaisinCain]

...and in 3 years time your systems old, can't run Linux and instead of buying a new mobo+processor, you have to buy a whole new mac.

Please, get real.

Yeah, and anyone who has a system that is 3 years old has to spend for upgrades in order to run Vista. That's a reality.

[ccuk]

I am a mac hater, I had a mac mini, used it for 60days.. it was great until it decided not to boot, I called Apple support and they denied all responsibility and hung up on me cause I did not have AppleCare. $900 in 60days down the drain... that would **** anyone off.

Screw a mac.. get a Tablet!

My bull**** sensor has gone into overdrive!

1 year warranty... ever care to think about ringing an apple reseller for help and advice, or even walking into an apple store/ reseller store?

[Vice]

But I thought Macs "just work" :laugh:

Yes because Apple can stop hardware failures magically like a rub of an Aladdin's lamp.

[ccuk]

But I thought Macs "just work" :laugh:

Nice trolling comment you made there...

He never said there was a 0% failure rate, nor did he say they never break. So how about less of the wise cracks?

[Nashy]

Can any of the mac people in here tell me why they are so damn agressive when someone says mac sucks? Seriously, you guys are worse than the console boys.