[Cancelled] Sarah Connor Chronicles (Terminator Series)


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This episode was awesome, did anyone else notice that no one had heard of John before. But when Cameron came on and she looked at John, it looked like she knew him and was wondering what he did there. Same thing happened when his dad saw him.

It's definitely Allison, not Cameron. Like Budious said, the dog proves that and her general expression. The reason she looked at him was because he was the new guy standing there naked ina overcoat lol But you know the feeling you get when you see someone for the first time and you already know them. Same case here. Just because they hadn't "met" yet doesn't mean they didn't know each other. Hell Kyle's his Dad he would for sure get that feeling.

Yeah i know but that still doesn't explain why "Cameron" recognized, remember john wasn't there when skynet took over because he was in the future already so he doesn't lead the resistance. He basically is a nobody now.

This is their way of explaining how he survived judgement day. John was still a nobody when he survived it in T3 and in the new movie. Only parts that annoy me is John had to work to get his position as a leader in the movies. How are these people going to take orders from someone half their age. I guess the important fact is the machines don't know who he is either.

Weaver looks bad ass tho :D

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Hell yea lol when she came through and was all in Resistance gear she looked real badass. Shame she'll have to live in hiding the resistance probably won't take to kindly to her. John will probably get into a confrontation when he's caught talking to her in season 3 (yea! I went there) Btw I sent my emails off to the both of them. So you know, check and mate.

Do they also pay attention to it being viewed on the UK Channel Virgin? I am guessing nope.

Just pretend you are in America! E-MAIL THEM! Tell them you watch it on FOX channel (FOX11 - Los Angeles affiliate)! NOW!

Also, I am writing an e-mail to them (both) because this show needs to come back!

That CW thing, I had that idea before that picture came out! :D W00t! The WB! might be listening.

Btw, one thing I thought worthy of mentioning. There's no "good" Terminators in the current timeline. Since John Henry and Weaver both jumped into the future, the "good" Terminators have not existed until now. So it's just the 2 of them and Cameron's chip. Which should be interesting. Also it seems like Cameron's body was destroyed in the blast. One could also assume Ellison and Sarah died too as they would have had to run fast because the aftermath of that room was completely destroyed.

Btw, one thing I thought worthy of mentioning. There's no "good" Terminators in the current timeline. Since John Henry and Weaver both jumped into the future, the "good" Terminators have not existed until now. So it's just the 2 of them and Cameron's chip. Which should be interesting. Also it seems like Cameron's body was destroyed in the blast. One could also assume Ellison and Sarah died too as they would have had to run fast because the aftermath of that room was completely destroyed.

Wrong. There can be good terminators. They can still re-program, just like John did in T2 (in the future). I still don't know why her body got destroyed. :( She had time traveled before. It's also not safe to assume that Ellison and Sarah died because after they had left at the end Sarah said "I love you too." So all in all, she nor Ellison didn't die.

Was she there when it was said? Could have just been her last words. While I think it'd be dumb to kill her off, they "could'. As for good Terminators, I never said they couldn't be reprogrammed, I meant the separate division of machines trying to help. They haven't been formed yet. Also from my understanding John was the only one able to reprogram them, in the movies and the series, since he wasn't there before, none have been captured and reprogrammed yet.

I agree about her not going through though, chip or no chip she should have gone through as just an empty endo.

Was she there when it was said? Could have just been her last words. While I think it'd be dumb to kill her off, they "could'. As for good Terminators, I never said they couldn't be reprogrammed, I meant the separate division of machines trying to help. They haven't been formed yet. Also from my understanding John was the only one able to reprogram them, in the movies and the series, since he wasn't there before, none have been captured and reprogrammed yet.

I agree about her not going through though, chip or no chip she should have gone through as just an empty endo.

That's an actually good point. :p I am still pretty sure that they wouldn't kill her off.

Ah, I did remember that. Bah, John going through time screwed the whole time line up. :p But he got his wish, he never wanted to be a part of it (T3).

I also might know how Kyle knows him! In the last episode of season 1, John and Reese were at the park eating ice cream and they saw the child version of Kyle and Reese. The ball was hit by child Reese and it went near John and he gave the ball back to Kyle. Kyle may know him/remember him from that moment.

I also might know how Kyle knows him! In the last episode of season 1, John and Reese were at the park eating ice cream and they saw the child version of Kyle and Reese. The ball was hit by child Reese and it went near John and he gave the ball back to Kyle. Kyle may know him/remember him from that moment.

Oh snap, thats a really good point. He was young but he would have recognized his face. Derek wouldn't have as he didn't see him, young Derek that is. Touche my friend, touche.

Oh snap, thats a really good point. He was young but he would have recognized his face. Derek wouldn't have as he didn't see him, young Derek that is. Touche my friend, touche.

:D Thank you. :p

I was watching the episode again for the 3rd time and it just hit me at the end. :p

I agree about her not going through though, chip or no chip she should have gone through as just an empty endo.

Doesn't it have to have living tissue to go through? Isn't that why no other objects in the bubble (not even clothing) make it through? Without the chip, Cameron's tissue is dead. Not sure exactly how it works for liquid terminators like Weaver, but presumably they have some way of simulating living tissue.

If she had wanted John dead she would of done it, she's on the good side as for the plane like thing it was the ship that lifted from the warehouse in the desert.

I think Weaver has her own agenda. While she may very well oppose (the creation of) Skynet, it doesn't necessarily mean she's on the side of the humans. Probably a rebel AI faction, IMO. They don't want Skynet OR humans in control.

I think Weaver has her own agenda. While she may very well oppose (the creation of) Skynet, it doesn't necessarily mean she's on the side of the humans. Probably a rebel AI faction, IMO. They don't want Skynet OR humans in control.

That may be true, but I am pretty sure that they rebelled against SkyNet because they want to Co-exist with humans.

Best episode so far! Can't wait for season 3 :)

You sound confident for a show that probably won't get a 3rd Season. Though I would be sooooo happy if they decided to make a 3rd Season.

Finally got to watch the episode :( It was really awesome. Cameron/John scene was funny as hell :p

Doesn't it have to have living tissue to go through? Isn't that why no other objects in the bubble (not even clothing) make it through? Without the chip, Cameron's tissue is dead. Not sure exactly how it works for liquid terminators like Weaver, but presumably they have some way of simulating living tissue.

I always assumed the living tissue line meant organic matter. The skin/blood is still organic, compared to the metal endo. However since it's no longer powered the excuse its no longer living can be said.

I didn't think the finale was very good :( I'd still watch if theres a new a series though

If the machines could travel back in time, why didnt they just go back to when there were cavemen and kill all them. Problem solved, no more humans.

Or build a spaceship travel to mars, blow up Earth, no more humans.

Or even simplier, go back, kill Sara Conners parents = no more John Conner.

The machines must be really stupid to not see these ideas.

Skynet is man made. From the movies, it's generally assumed a few things are inevitable:

1. There will be some computer/software named skynet that will become self aware

2. There will be a judgement day (date can change)

3. John Connor will lead the human resistance (and win) against the machines.

The machinies sending terminators back is just as useless as Sarah Connor trying to stop skynet ever being created. But timelines keep getting changed because of the failed attempts etc.

This episode was the series' finale. Check keywords on IMDB. I'm not sure if that is certain, but the content of this most recent episode really felt like the end.

I'd kill for more, but I this seems to be it (makes sense I guess, since it's called "The Sarah Conner Chronicles" and the whole cast now is split over decades).

This last episode concludes Sarah's involvement in the overall plot.

It certainly makes sense its the end but as we have said 2 or 3 times in this episode near 1800 post thread they could bring it back with a different title so that we know Sarah's involvement is over.

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