Mathachew Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 I'm really happy with that episode, its about time we got some answers! - You can't kill yourself off the island, the island won't allow it - The top others can get off the island when they like - The others allowed Walt to go back to normal life - People who aren't the oceanic 6 are allowed off the island, but can't reveal themselves due to the press of it - Getting off the island does not equal the end of that characters saga What I really liked about it was the fact they finally confirmed the island is magical, atleast now we know theres no point trying to find some scientific explanations to what things are (smokie, the room with what you want in it). What we saw of Michael was pre-Oceanic Six, so there's nothing showing that other survivors can get off the island, only that Ben was able to get off somehow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 - You can't kill yourself off the island, the island won't allow it Actually I think Mr. Friendly jammed that gun when he was holding it in the dark alley. He did ask later "So did the gun jam on you?" Seem too coincidental IMO. Besides I don't think the island can exert its "powers" on people when they are no longer on the island. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Surpose so, it just seemed like something was wrong with that episode. I expected to see more of Walt, or how they actually left the island, was there any point that Libby was showing up? Just seemed a bit of a let down. The point of Libby being there was to emphasize on Michael's guilt for what he did, and his reason for being Ben's spy, so that he can redeem himself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUBBYJR2005 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 GUYS and Gals has this season been more harder to figure out than the previous seasons? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Actually I think Mr. Friendly jammed that gun when he was holding it in the dark alley. He did ask later "So did the gun jam on you?" Seem too coincidental IMO. Besides I don't think the island can exert its "powers" on people when they are no longer on the island. Eh I doubt it. Michael could've very well have taken his gun and shot himself and the result would've likely been the same. GUYS and Gals has this season been more harder to figure out than the previous seasons? Was it really necessary to post this three times? No, it's not harder to follow. It's obvious what is a flashback and a flash forward. Happy? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 GUYS and Gals has this season been more harder to figure out than the previous seasons? Not really because we are getting answers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted March 21, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 21, 2008 Not really because we are getting answers. Very slowly.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUBBYJR2005 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I find it harder because of the flashes going in the future and back and then back to present.I got another question guys is the flashes in the future the true future or is it just one future we may be seeing for some of the chars? Also does anyone have a idea if the guys on the ship are good or if ben is good or are people still trying to figure that out? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Very slowly.... Yeah they haven't really answered any of my questions this season so lets hope second half they better start answering :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted March 21, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 21, 2008 I got another question guys is the flashes in the future the true future or is it just one future we may be seeing for some of the chars? Daniel - "You can't change the future" unless your Desmond... The producers said what we see in the future, will be the future Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 There hasn't been any indication of alternate realities, timelines, or stuff like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUBBYJR2005 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Daniel - "You can't change the future" unless your Desmond...The producers said what we see in the future, will be the future oh didnt know that ok than I guess the question is is ben good or bad lol.I have a feeling ben is good. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted March 21, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 21, 2008 oh didnt know that ok than I guess the question is is ben good or bad lol.I have a feeling ben is good. From what we have been shown, Ben looks to be the good guy, but we never know with Ben... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Yeah I would think Ben seems to be the good guy especially knowing the Freighter people now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think Ben is the good guy as well, but he doesn't always do "good" things to get what needs to be done, done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 I really thought the person in the bed next to Michael was Kelvin :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Jedi. Seriously. Calm down. You make me want to not read this thread because you freakin spaz out all the time. *SIGH* http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/589488 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted March 21, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 21, 2008 I really thought the person in the bed next to Michael was Kelvin :laugh: Looks like Alvar Hanso Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Yeah plus a few pages back Jedi posted a fan map that pretty much puts it where Ben drew it. But, I don't see anything that proves it other than on the mountains. I don't think it's there. I think it's on the West edge by the Foot Statue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Looks like Alvar Hanso Yeah could well be that would be a massive twist! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted March 21, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 21, 2008 The ABC Official Podcast Summary. *Shocking twist for the finale will not be the final scene, but close to the end of the episode. *Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, and Aaron. *Tom (Mr. Friendly) is indeed gay. *Desmond/Minkowski "side effects" may indeed be the "Sickness" that Rouseau refers to... (they hint at it very strongly) *The Swan Hatch implosion will probably not be revisited. However, we have not seen the last of the "purple sky" this season. *They explain the appearance of certain paranormal events and what they are.... Ben's mother=apparition Sawyer's Boar=animal Spider=monster Hurley bird=no comment Dave=apparation/imagination Yemi=Monster Kate's horse=undead Mikail' Cat Nadia=animal Walt=some have been apparition, some have been monster Boone in Locke's dream=dream *Lepidus name in Expose script that Hurley read is just a name one of the writers in fond of. *Is Aaron in danger since he is being "Raised by Another"? The psychic told Claire that she must raise the baby herself. They leave it up to the viewers if you believe if the psychic is real or not. *Significance of name Kevin Johnson.....the Others chose the most innocuous and bland name they could so as not to raise suspicion and raise attention to Michael's alias. *Will learn much more about four-toed statue and Black Rock. *Secret code name for the finale twist "The Frozen Donkey Wheel" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadishTM Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Nice tidbits :D (Y) Radish? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 I was a bit shocked at Mr Friendly but not overly shocked because if you remember when Kate was changing he said "Your not my type". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 On Tom being gay: I wasn't shocked really, they all but confirmed it in a podcast either last season or the season before last, can't remember when it was. It seemed out of place though. The kiss anyway. Seemed forced, like it didn't belong. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 *SIGH*http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/589488 There's a problem with the link you posted, and that is that the guy is talking about speaking, not what you're typing in a forum. Since this is not a verbal discussion, the words you type are all that we have to go by, including your punctuations and emphasis on words, such as: I REALLY liked What they showed US this time!!!!!!! What we're imagining is you fluctuating what you're saying with the capitalized words and letters, as if you're excited in what you're saying, especially with the redundant amount of exclamation points. You said you weren't going to stop typing like that, and like I said before, don't get upset or bent out of shape when people do tell you to calm down, because that is exactly how you're coming across, as if you're not calm. Notice the emphasis on not? That's just like me saying it louder, and your posts are no different, hence us telling you to: calm down. Your post above is a great example. You have *SIGH*, like an exacerbated and annoyed sigh, not a simple *sigh*. Do you see the difference? If you're calm, type as if you're calm. :) On Tom being gay: I wasn't shocked really, they all but confirmed it in a podcast either last season or the season before last, can't remember when it was.It seemed out of place though. The kiss anyway. Seemed forced, like it didn't belong. Maybe it was sometime during the beginning of the third season when he told Kate, "You're not my type." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/96/#findComment-589283563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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