Lost Season 4

[laz45]

I guess Minkowski isn't Ben's man on the boat, since he's dead and he obviously didn't open the door. I'm still betting that its someone we know.

It's Michael

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They're getting a little science-fictiony....We'll see if their audience can take it...

I thought it was good.

If Desmond is travelling through time again, we had better see that lady from the last time he did this. The one who sold him the ring...

I have a feeling thats going to be it for Desmond and Penny's Excellent Adventure. As far as we know, all sources of electromagnetism on the island have been exhausted toward Des. The Swan is gone and he's done that off island journey, so he should be in the clear as far as brain explosions go.

You're right about the sci-fi thing though. They said that everything can be explained realistically, I have no idea how they explain this episode that way.

Here's a question: How in the hell didn't Jack know if Desmond had been exposed to magnetism? He knows the hatch had a magnet and it exploded. Or was he just trying to keep that fact from Daniel and Charlotte?

It's Michael

Are you just speculating? Or is that a spoiler?

[Rappy Veteran]

I have a feeling thats going to be it for Desmond and Penny's Excellent Adventure. As far as we know, all sources of electromagnetism on the island have been exhausted toward Des. The Swan is gone and he's done that off island journey, so he should be in the clear as far as brain explosions go.

You're right about the sci-fi thing though. They said that everything can be explained realistically, I have no idea how they explain this episode that way.

Here's a question: How in the hell didn't Jack know if Desmond had been exposed to magnetism? He knows the hatch had a magnet and it exploded. Or was he just trying to keep that fact from Daniel and Charlotte?

Are you just speculating? Or is that a spoiler?

I would say speculation and I read spoilers its not been confirmed either way but the fact his name keeps coming up in credits its got be at least 70% sure.

[Hurmoth]

You're right about the sci-fi thing though. They said that everything can be explained realistically, I have no idea how they explain this episode that way.

Here's a question: How in the hell didn't Jack know if Desmond had been exposed to magnetism? He knows the hatch had a magnet and it exploded. Or was he just trying to keep that fact from Daniel and Charlotte?

Are you just speculating? Or is that a spoiler?

Did they use the word realistically or logically? I thought it was logically, which would make it easier to explain things away in a logical sense, but not a real world sense.

As for Jack, that's a great question. He wasn't there when it happened, so we don't really know how much he knows about what happened do we? I'm sure he knows the hatch imploded, but outside of that, I doubt he's really given much thought as to what happened. It has only been what two or three weeks since that happened in Lost timeline hasn't it? I'd imagine since he got back, he's been more worried with getting everyone off the island than anything.

I suspect he's just speculating about it being Michael, I've seen a lot of people saying they think it is him, but nothing confirmed as far as I know. And if it is true, then it needs to be in spoiler tags.

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Did they use the word realistically or logically? I thought it was logically, which would make it easier to explain things away in a logical sense, but not a real world sense.

As for Jack, that's a great question. He wasn't there when it happened, so we don't really know how much he knows about what happened do we? I'm sure he knows the hatch imploded, but outside of that, I doubt he's really given much thought as to what happened. It has only been what two or three weeks since that happened in Lost timeline hasn't it? I'd imagine since he got back, he's been more worried with getting everyone off the island than anything.

I suspect he's just speculating about it being Michael, I've seen a lot of people saying they think it is him, but nothing confirmed as far as I know. And if it is true, then it needs to be in spoiler tags.

Maybe it was logically. Even then. Beaming someone information from the future isn't logical.

I'll just put Jack's stupidity off to him not wanting Charlotte and Daniel to know. That will make me feel better.

We know Michael is back in some form this season, but I don't think that necessarily means its on the boat.

Just what day is it on the island right now? According to the Lostpedia timeline, the helicopter arrives on the freighter still on the 24th, but Jack tries to radio and is told the copter hasn't arrived yet on the 25th.

Now, was the chicken dinner that Locke was preparing supposed to be 'Christmas dinner'?

I'm so confused with the timeline right now. Even less confused than Des was making me.

[TheDreamX]

Just what day is it on the island right now? According to the Lostpedia timeline, the helicopter arrives on the freighter still on the 24th, but Jack tries to radio and is told the copter hasn't arrived yet on the 25th.

Now, was the chicken dinner that Locke was preparing supposed to be 'Christmas dinner'?

From what I understand, you are correct. The island seems to be one day behind. Why the "package" from a few episodes back arrived a few minutes later and the helicopter arrived a day later, however, still confuses me.

All in all, though, this consciousness time-shifting is turning out to be a fun ride. I didn't ever expect something like this, but I guess that's the point of the show.

[Mathachew Veteran]

I found this amusing: Sawyer's Nickname Generator

I'm Einstein

[Rappy Veteran]

4.06 CTV Promo

[TheDreamX]

Here's something odd: there was a Lost video game released only days ago... WHAT?! How haven't I heard of this??? Has anyone played it? How did they make a video game (which must have an ending) to a series that has not yet showed us the end? I'm very confused and probably opening discussion in the wrong spot.

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From what I understand, you are correct. The island seems to be one day behind. Why the "package" from a few episodes back arrived a few minutes later and the helicopter arrived a day later, however, still confuses me.

All in all, though, this consciousness time-shifting is turning out to be a fun ride. I didn't ever expect something like this, but I guess that's the point of the show.

But it still doesn't make complete sense that its a day behind. They call from the freighter looking for Daniel not long after they arrive. Call it a couple hours. Yet they don't receive the call on the island til the 25th? And after they called and said that the copter hadn't arrived?

Is there some magic line where you lose a day? We know that 815 was on 9/22, and that Desmond interrupted the system failure on the island on 9/22 as well, so the dates were synced up then. Did the Swan implosion screw that up?

Here's something odd: there was a Lost video game released only days ago... WHAT?! How haven't I heard of this??? Has anyone played it? How did they make a video game (which must have an ending) to a series that has not yet showed us the end? I'm very confused and probably opening discussion in the wrong spot.

Yup, I've played it and completed it. At the risk of spoiling anything, the whole game takes place during seasons 1 and 2. If you want some spoilers, I posted them a couple pages back.

A thought though, that I didn't post then: There are interesting things shown in the game that reveal things from the island. I'd say the $30 is well worth it if you want to know everything about the island.

[Rappy Veteran]

W00t!

Black Rock!

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W00t!

Black Rock!

Forgot all about that auction. There was a ton of information in that little scene.

[Rappy Veteran]

They mentioned Hanso well not Alvar but maybe his son or something and it was the Black Rock Journal so thats like another connection with Widmore and Dharma.

Great episode tho just got through it the flashbacks were weird but awesome and next omg Are they in a bunker could be Orchid plus Faraday wearing a nuke suit

[-Nic-]

Amazing episode....I was moved by the final scene tremendously.

Probably one of my favorite episodes in a long long time.

[Noveed]

ooo im hating charlotte for knocking out kate in the trailer i sooo want her dead and i want it to be a slow one, she is just a cockly little b****. Anyways the constant episode was great, a bit far fetched but great. Faridays constant has to be desmond now that is offit, maybe that has to do with the cards or something that he could only remember 2/3. hehe just pure speculation there ;)

[Rappy Veteran]

ooo im hating charlotte for knocking out kate in the trailer i sooo want her dead and i want it to be a slow one, she is just a cockly little b****. Anyways the constant episode was great, a bit far fetched but great. Faridays constant has to be desmond now that is offit, maybe that has to do with the cards or something that he could only remember 2/3. hehe just pure speculation there ;)

I think Faraday is now my favourite character and I am so digging the hair of 1996 :laugh:

[mancode20]

That was a mind bendingly great episode!! It had everything that makes Lost great. I think and hope that it finally shut up some of the naysayers that have said the writers have no idea what they are doing, they never give us answers, etc. That episode gave away plenty of answers, referenced some stuff from previous seasons that proves that this ride does have a destination. People just need to strap themselves in and enjoy the ride.

[Windows7even]

They're getting a little science-fictiony....We'll see if their audience can take it...

I thought it was good.

If Desmond is travelling through time again, we had better see that lady from the last time he did this. The one who sold him the ring...

getting a little science-fictiny???where have u been dude.....two words BLACK SMOKE!!!!

[sundayx Veteran]

or "A bunch of people surviving a plane crash that split in half"

[Mathachew Veteran]

or "A bunch of people surviving a plane crash that split in half"

That's not really sci-fi. People have survived plane crashes, though I recall a debate I had with multiple people on this forum that the likelyhood of all the survivors having survived in the manner by which the plane crashed, with some not even being nearly the plane wreckage, would be next to impossible, but that doesn't make it science fiction, unless the method by which they did survive would involve some kind of sci-fi element.

[Ricerider]

just got home and watched the new episode.

been a long time watcher.. first time poster and i've been looking for a place to discuss theories and speculate.

Definitely curious to see how this boat thing plays out. The last few episodes have been very strange with many loose ends. Kinda of enjoyed the switch of main character focus.

i noticed Sahid was confused about the day thing.. he's onto something. He said "How can we leave at dusk and arrive at midday?"

I always figured there was some sort of time differential between the island and the outside world.. like a section of the world lost in time. Whole burmuda triangle theory.

anyways,.. hope to be on these forums more.

[Slimy]

Brilliant episode. Just brilliant. Faraday rules :D

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

I have to admit, the first episode all season I truely didn't like.. The ending had me guessing as to what is going on... but I just didn't feel the "it" factor

[Berserk87]

what the hell is this? slaughter house 5? :p

Desmond used to have those flashes of the future, and now this?

maybe theres something related?

[KoL Veteran]

Desmond's episodes are the best.

Awesome episode, one of my favorite.