PS3 misconceptions and spin

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I may be mistaken since I use Vista (which has MCE) but can't you just go to Music or Movies on the 360 without starting the Media Center and stream the media from a PC? Maybe you need Windows Media Player?

Yup :yes:

[etempest]

Media streaming was not supported at first in the PS3, feature was added in one of the 1.5x firmware's I think (there currently on 1.9x).

Instruction for WMP 11 and streaming found here -

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...thread.id=44489

The nice thing about eh PS3 is the firmware updates have added a lot of various nice features and functionality after it's release.

[Noveed]

I may be mistaken since I use Vista (which has MCE) but can't you just go to Music or Movies on the 360 without starting the Media Center and stream the media from a PC? Maybe you need Windows Media Player?

Yup but ... only WMV videos and some MP4 work and MP3 obivously work. Thought about updating to Vista Ultimate but id rather wait till SP1 is out the door before i do. Been using WMP and TVersity on the 360 as TVersity does not run very well. (not as well as it does on the PS3). PS3 can even stram from WMP, it shows up on the XMB.

[etempest]

With Transcoding (a program that converts one video format to another on demand) you can stream a lot to the PS3. I got Nero Express 6 with my dvd drive. It came with Nero Digtial Express.

Here a guide with Nero 7, but Nero 6 works just as well.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...thread.id=45512

Nero 6 IMHO is better becuase you just Media home, no Nero Scout or indexing, etc to worry about.

This is what I use for video streaming to the ps3 and it works rather well.

(Edit) I also have UPNP disabled on my router and the ps3 picked it up the pc very quickly.

Edited October 30, 2007 by jstillion

[HawkMan]

Both the ps3 and the 360 can stream from any UPnP devicesoftware, wich ncludes WMP11,TVersity abd winamp5.5 aong others. thoughthe 360 will need to have non WMV and MP4 video transcoded.

But then again UPnP is such a messy ugly chore to use when trying to find the media you're looking for, it's a big messy unorganized pile of media files. And this is why the 360 is great with he Media Center Extender, compared to the UPnP mess, it's beautifull, it's clean and you can organize stuff just like you want easy with folder and everything as normal.

Besides that though, TVersity is a horrible piece of software period. It's one of the worst peces of software I have ever installed. for streaming my music to my 360 while playing, I'm using UPnP through WMP11, cause I just couldn't stand the instability,s lowness and general crapness of TVersity. the only good thing it does is allow you to transcode on the go.... when it decides not to crash, and it doesn't do an all too good of a job at it form a quality point of view, especially on HD meda...

[Noveed]

Both the ps3 and the 360 can stream from any UPnP devicesoftware, wich ncludes WMP11,TVersity abd winamp5.5 aong others. thoughthe 360 will need to have non WMV and MP4 video transcoded.

But then again UPnP is such a messy ugly chore to use when trying to find the media you're looking for, it's a big messy unorganized pile of media files. And this is why the 360 is great with he Media Center Extender, compared to the UPnP mess, it's beautifull, it's clean and you can organize stuff just like you want easy with folder and everything as normal.

Besides that though, TVersity is a horrible piece of software period. It's one of the worst peces of software I have ever installed. for streaming my music to my 360 while playing, I'm using UPnP through WMP11, cause I just couldn't stand the instability,s lowness and general crapness of TVersity. the only good thing it does is allow you to transcode on the go.... when it decides not to crash, and it doesn't do an all too good of a job at it form a quality point of view, especially on HD meda...

i get no instability with the PS3 which is why i was making my point earlier, when streaming videos or music to PS3 it just feels a lot better than streaming it to the 360. Not sure why this is, maybe TVersity is designed better for PS3 i dont know. Maybe the 360 does not read the streamed data properly, who knows :huh:

[BajiRav]

yeah i use it in conjunction with TVersity on the 360, however when streaming videos they can only be WMV and sometimes certain mp4 formats. But it was the "media centre" part i was referring to, to actually use that feature you need a MCE pc

Don't want to sound rude :p but what part of Media Center Extender you did not understand ? Both PS3 and XBOX360 are DLNA compliant devices. And yes, TVersity is bad. I had problems even before I had time to boot my 360. It's unstable as hell (Vista Ulti here). Transcode360 works like a charm. (Y)

[Noveed]

Don't want to sound rude :p but what part of Media Center Extender you did not understand ? Both PS3 and XBOX360 are DLNA compliant devices. And yes, TVersity is bad. I had problems even before I had time to boot my 360. It's unstable as hell (Vista Ulti here). Transcode360 works like a charm. (Y)

I understand it, just that when i see "Media Centre" on the Dash i expect it to act like one, rather that have me purchase a MCE copy of windows to enable the Extender to work as a media centre. Not using ultimate, im waiting out on the service pack id rather MS fix the problems with Vista first before i upgrade. Maybe all this whining from me will go away once i do. I think transcode360 needs MCE to run anyways so its useless for an XP person. Hence the reason im still using TVersity and WMP11. I have Vista Business through my MSDNAA but that dont have a media centre in it, its a shame :(

edit: just read the wikipedia entry in ur post, seems the PS3 is a "DLNA CERTIFIED Player". Didnt see the xbox360 there, is that the reason why TVersity works better with the PS3? Sounds silly i know, the 360 does work just not aswell. Might just be that TVersity is not really a coding heaven.

Edited October 31, 2007 by Noveed

[Ironman273]

I understand it, just that when i see "Media Centre" on the Dash i expect it to act like one, rather that have me purchase a MCE copy of windows to enable the Extender to work as a media centre. Not using ultimate, im waiting out on the service pack id rather MS fix the problems with Vista first before i upgrade. Maybe all this whining from me will go away once i do. I think transcode360 needs MCE to run anyways so its useless for an XP person. Hence the reason im still using TVersity and WMP11. I have Vista Business through my MSDNAA but that dont have a media centre in it, its a shame :(

I don't think that you're understanding that the "Media Center" from "Media Center Extender" on the 360 specifically refers to Windows Media Center, like using the name. If you don't have it or don't want to use it then it streams like the PS3 does.

It's like if the PS3 had a PSP Extender that worked with the PSP. They're just using the name.

[HawkMan]

um, you don't need ultimate.

You get MC with Premium wich is like the regular version of Vista, basic is for the low end computers or for consumers who can't afford to go directly for Premium.

even XP MCE works like regular XP and doesn't cost more than XP.

As for fixing the Vista poblems, I've never really had any but whatever.

[Noveed]

um, you don't need ultimate.

You get MC with Premium wich is like the regular version of Vista, basic is for the low end computers or for consumers who can't afford to go directly for Premium.

even XP MCE works like regular XP and doesn't cost more than XP.

As for fixing the Vista poblems, I've never really had any but whatever.

I know Premium came with it, id rather get ultimate though, problems a few of my friends were having were with games, they basically suck at the moment and with MS touting that Vista is this and that for games it makes them look silly, i reckon the service pack will probably make the games run better *hopefully* If thats the case then ill deffos be buying ultimate.

[Tech Star]

He spelled Blu-Ray Blue Ray, wtf?

[HawkMan]

I got ultimate on my deksopt and Premium on my laptop, There isn't really that much reason for getting ultimate, unless you really want animated desktops. of course the good animated desktops are the real 3D ones, but since MS signed a deal with stardock so they hav the support for 3D animated scenes and they won't give out any toosl for reular peopel to make them...

[gigapixels Veteran]

He spelled Blu-Ray Blue Ray, wtf?

He was probably either making fun of a) the name itself, or b) the people that he's "quoting".

[BajiRav]

I got ultimate on my deksopt and Premium on my laptop, There isn't really that much reason for getting ultimate, unless you really want animated desktops. of course the good animated desktops are the real 3D ones, but since MS signed a deal with stardock so they hav the support for 3D animated scenes and they won't give out any toosl for reular peopel to make them...

I prefer ultimate for Previous Versions. I love it (Y).

[Noveed]

I prefer ultimate for Previous Versions. I love it (Y).

i think the snazzy backgrounds, dreamscene i think its called looks good, and apparently its the one to go for if your a gamer. So i would go for that, Vista Business offers nothing new over my xp pro apart from aero.

[Emn1ty]

I think we are a bit off topic now.

So... to get back on topic. The 360 can do pretty much anything the PS3 can, and it has a higher power threshold as of now. So what is there that can bring the PS3 out of the slowly deepening hole?

[Huleboeren]

I think we are a bit off topic now.

So... to get back on topic. The 360 can do pretty much anything the PS3 can, and it has a higher power threshold as of now. So what is there that can bring the PS3 out of the slowly deepening hole?

How about the plenty of games coming out in the next few months? :

[Sethos]

How about the plenty of games coming out in the next few months? :

Both of them?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

How about the plenty of games coming out in the next few months? :

"But there's nothing on that list that looks good to me!" :p

Updated Blu Ray features/profile coming in the next firmware as well for anyone who's into their movies.

Both of them?

Different hits for different people.

[Huleboeren]

Both of them?

COD4

PSEye thingy

Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction

Assasins Creed

NFS ProStreet

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men

Haze

Timeshift

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

MOH: Airborne (Crap game btw)

SingStar

Should keep me busy and broke :p

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

COD4

PSEye thingy

Assasins Creed

NFS ProStreet

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men

Haze

Timeshift

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

MOH: Airborne (Crap game btw)

SingStar

Should keep me busy and broke :p

and with tons of luck, maybe UT3 :p

Or has that been definitely prosponed to 2008? I ain't been on the net for 2 weeks. Last position I seen it in was "We'll try for 2007 ~ December release"

At least Mark Rein has positive things to say about it...

" I was playing the PS3 build for a few hours tonight and it is really, really fantastic. Amazingly smooth and solid. I think you PS3 users are in for a huge treat with UT3."

Source: http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?p=25066642

[Ironman273]

COD4

PSEye thingy

Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction

Assasins Creed

NFS ProStreet

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men

Haze

Timeshift

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

MOH: Airborne (Crap game btw)

SingStar

Should keep me busy and broke :p

I think it's the exclusives he was referring to, meaning a reason to purchase one over the other. From that list that would be R&C (which is already out), Uncharted, and Singstar (although I don't know how much of a system seller that'll be).

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I think it's the exclusives he was referring to, meaning a reason to purchase one over the other. From that list that would be R&C (which is already out), Uncharted, and Singstar (although I don't know how much of a system seller that'll be).

Haze as well!

Buzz!: Quiz TV is also out this year. That usually sells quite a bit.

[Ironman273]

Haze as well!

Buzz!: Quiz TV is also out this year. That usually sells quite a bit.

Haze is like Assassin's Creed, a badly kept secret exclusive. It'll come out on the 360 after the PS3.