NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 pics, specs leaked


Recommended Posts

If you cant afford a monitor that size, how can you afford a card that expensive? :whistle:

I'd rather have smooth games on a 17'' monitor than choppy games on a 22" monitor.

Anyway, I had this 8800 GTS given to me by a company who screwed up... bad.

how come video cards get bigger and not smaller

They're similar to the size of the cards around the Voodoo times. Main difference is the cooler these days.

Also, initial models are always bigger. Think about the first 8800 GTS and the newer 8800 GT.

The 8800 GT is cheap and is the best performing cards for it's price-range. In fact, it's one of the best performing cards at the moment full stop.

Yeah I know. Do you think prices will go down after 9 series cards come out?

What nVidia needs is not the 9800, but the 8700.

nVidia presently has nothing between the $120-or-so 8600GTS and the $220-or-so 8800GT.

Looking at their performance, the 8600GTS seems to only offer about twice the oomph of the 7600GS I run now. The 8800 offers about four times the oomph.

Meanwhile, the Radeon 3850 sits right in the middle: $170 or so, about 3 times the performance of the 7600GS.

Anything below the 8800 cards provide fairly weak selling points: 8600 cards tend towards being large and hot-running for their performance level (I can get a reasonably sized fanless 7600, but a fanless 8600 usually requres a huge weird heatsink assembly), so you have to not only say "Do I want to spend $120 for this performance" but "do I want to take on the extra heat and-or noise for this performance?" When the performance gains are comparatively small, it's a hard sell.

Watch this not be the 9800 but be an 8900. that to me seems a little more plausible for a 30% increase.
I deadset agree and think it will slide in as an 8900 card. Looking at post at hard forums and based on my own belief, these cards do not offer a very large performance jump over the other cards in the family (remembering these are in SLI so individually each card isnt really any faster than an 8800 card). To me calling these cards the 9800 would make them be seen as the next generation and the poor performance increase would just be a huge stigma on NVidia. If the cards are only on par with the 8800's then they'd do well I think to cal them 8900's.
30% is a huge gain considering the difference between the 8800 GT and GTX is minimal at best...maybe 5% or thereabouts.

I think it just shows how old the 8800GTX is, that their newly released GT mid range card can come so close to it. And I also think that by Feb the 8800GTX will be close to 18 months old a 30% jump is quite poor, particully when the cards in SLI. I'm honestly left wondering what on earth they are doing, surely you can get that extra 30% already by SLI'ing two current cards ablite at a higher cost. Apart from moving to a 65nm design there ultimatly seems theres been no improvement what so ever and using SLI to achieve higher figures seems a cheap way to go about it.

After a year or two of having released their top card, I actually believed all that speculation about it having teraflop speeds, 10GB of memory, full AA as standard etc.

I guess they don't really need to release it, and are holding back their top models so as soon as ATI release something which matches their current top model, nVidia can just bring out their next model and destroy ATI again.

I missed out the 8k, as i have a 7950gt, not sure about the GX2 being 30% faster, surely that means that each chip is only 65% as fast as an 8800 ultra? i may have read it wrong, but thats the jist i got

though then again, 4 card sli, Matrox triple head adapters... 24 1280x1024 screens.... i'm not complaining :p

I think it should. Check out these results, some users got 60fps using SLI/Crossfire http://www.marc2003.ukfsn.org/ocuk/crysis/results.php I get around 47fps with only one 8800GT @ 1280x1024 0AA all high.

That's on high, not very high.

Some of you are forgetting how much faster 30% really is... wait for benchmarks.

Yeah they dont realize, if you are going 1000 mph and the next increse is 30% thats 300 mph more.

One day the next series cards will only be 10 15% If you think about it its incredible.

Yeah they dont realize, if you are going 1000 mph and the next increse is 30% thats 300 mph more.

One day the next series cards will only be 10 15% If you think about it its incredible.

But the point is this is an SLI card which I think makes any gain look pretty bad.

The card is supposed to be at least 30% faster than a 8800 Ultra,

The article compares this card to a SINGLE Ultra. Surely two new cards in SLI should be able to do more. Hell you can get two present cards and achieve the same result to be honest by using SLI. Yes, it'll be cheaper than having to buy two graphics cards and putting them into SLI, but performance wise I don't think 30% is any more than you would expect to achieve by placing two old cards in SLI which to me is where the disappointment lies. I'd much rather see progress being made in the single card designs than them gaining performance through the use of SLI.

Like I said, the cost is appealing but from a technological point of view I don't see this as a step forward but more of a side step (especially after 12 - 18 months since the 8800's arrived). Clearly they are delaying the real next gen cards and these seem to be a more intermediate gap filler of a card that's just had a die shrink and a few other adjustments. 30% is nice, but given that it's done via SLI I really do think ultimatly it's disapointing as by now I was expecting something truly new.

Some of you are forgetting how much faster 30% really is... wait for benchmarks.

so if an 8800 Ultra is getting 47fps in Crysis at any given settings, this new 9800 GX2 will get 61fps. not that impressive to me, considering it's 2 GPUs. I wouldnt really be impressed if it were a single GPU since it's supposed to be a next-gen video card. perhaps we're all spoiled since the 8 series is so much faster than the 7 series.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • The sweet release of death has never looked more appealing.
    • Meh, just another dongle-haven downgrade compared to my Surface Pro 7+. Whenever I decide to upgrade in the next decade or so, it certainly won't be another microslop Surface with this enshitification trend they've been having after the Surface Pro 7+. Hopefully a future generation of the Framework 12 will be a real upgrade...
    • This could exactly be how our Sun ends but it's not as simple by Sayan Sen Image by Drew Rae via Pexels An international team led by Université de Montréal (University of Montreal) PhD student Érika Le Bourdais has found that the ancient white dwarf star LSPM J0207+3331 is still pulling in planetary debris, even though it has been cooling for about three billion years. White dwarfs are dense, Earth-sized stellar remnants left behind when Sun-like stars exhaust their nuclear fuel and shed their outer layers. The star, located 145 light-years away in the constellation Triangulum, is the oldest and coldest white dwarf known to have a surrounding disk of dust. The star was first spotted in 2019 by a citizen scientist through the Backyard Worlds: Planet 9 project. Its cool temperature immediately suggested that it was very old, since white dwarfs gradually lose heat over time. Using the W. M. Keck telescopes in Hawaii, astronomers later confirmed that the star shows infrared signals consistent with dust rings formed by asteroids breaking apart under its strong gravity. Such infrared excesses occur when a star emits more infrared light than expected, often because warm dust surrounding it absorbs and re-radiates energy. “This discovery challenges our understanding of planetary system evolution,” said Le Bourdais. “The fact that we still see planetary debris being accreted three billion years after the star became a white dwarf suggests that asteroids, comets, and even planets can remain in orbit around these stars for a very long time.” Spectroscopic analysis—a technique that studies light to identify the chemical elements present in an object—revealed thirteen heavy elements in the star’s atmosphere: sodium, magnesium, aluminium, silicon, calcium, titanium, chromium, manganese, iron, cobalt, nickel, copper, and strontium. Normally, heavy elements sink quickly in hydrogen-rich white dwarfs, making them hard to detect. “We expected to see only a few elements, but we found dozens!” explained Le Bourdais. The research paper adds more detail. The absence of carbon features suggests the debris came from a carbon-volatile-depleted source. The abundance pattern shows slight deficits of magnesium and silicon compared to iron but otherwise resembles Earth-like material. This points to a differentiated rocky body—one whose materials have separated into distinct layers such as a metallic core and rocky mantle—with a metallic core fraction higher than Earth’s. In other words, the star is accreting the remains of a large rocky object, similar in structure to Earth or the asteroid Vesta. “White dwarfs offer one of the only ways we can directly measure the composition of exoplanets,” said Patrick Dufour, co-author and professor at Université de Montréal. “When planetary debris come too close, they are torn apart by the star’s gravity and end up polluting its atmosphere, leaving a detailed chemical fingerprint of its composition.” The team also detected weak Ca II H & K line core emission, making this only the second known isolated polluted white dwarf to show this feature. These are specific spectral signatures produced by ionised calcium and can indicate unusual physical activity in a star’s upper atmosphere. The finding suggests that extra physical processes may be happening in or above the star’s upper atmosphere. The study stresses the importance of including heavy elements in model atmosphere calculations, since leaving them out can distort the inferred structure and lead to inaccurate stellar parameters. Earlier work suggested the star’s infrared excess came from two dust rings. The new analysis shows that a single silicate dust disk—a ring composed largely of rock-forming minerals rich in silicon and oxygen—can explain the observed signal at 11.6 μm, simplifying the picture of the system’s structure. The question of how debris ended up falling into the star so late remains open. One idea is that giant planets in the system slowly destabilised smaller bodies over billions of years. Another possibility is that a passing star disturbed the orbits of debris. “Future observations with the James Webb Space Telescope or archival data found in the European Space Agency’s Gaia mission could help distinguish between a planetary rearrangement and the gravitational effect of a close stellar encounter,” said John Debes, co-author and researcher at the Space Telescope Science Institute. Dufour noted that hydrogen-rich white dwarfs are the most common type, and the coolest among them are the oldest stars in the galaxy. “We didn't have the habit of looking for signs of accretion in them. This unique case motivates us to expand our search to more of these stars.” The findings show that even after billions of years, planetary systems can remain active and complex. Substantial accretion events—the gradual accumulation of surrounding material onto a celestial object—can still occur long after a star’s death, offering a rare window into the composition and fate of distant worlds. Source: University of Montreal, IOPScience This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
    • Doesn't DDG mainly use Bing?
    • Given the hefty price tag this thing will likely have I doubt many everyday home users will be in the market for one especially given the current climate.
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Year In
      MadMung0 earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      jefred earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Apprentice
      JoeyNeo went up a rank
      Apprentice
    • Week One Done
      oliviaexpo earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      eurospharma62 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      475
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      228
    3. 3
      Skyfrog
      65
    4. 4
      monterxz
      56
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      56
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!