+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted January 5, 2008 Well personally I think Blu Ray won when Sony agreed to allow porn on it. :pCostco is going to get raped with all the returned HD-DVD's :laugh: If you want to be serious though, Sony helped shift this war with implementing Blu Ray in the PS3 - You can't argue that. I laugh at all the naysayers who said it was the worst idea ever putting Blu Ray in a console (not people who had doubts, those who were downright arrogant about their belief that ps3 & blur ray would fail) I still believe if MS had been sensible and integrated the HDDVD into the elite, which they should have done (for movies only), things could be a lot different! Especially with a good chunk of those 17.7 million 360s being elites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 And the Samsungs, and the Panasonics, and the Pioneers, and the Sony standalones...Don't know about the Philips or the LG ones. Sharp *just* came out with theirs... Sony's PS3 updates have been much different because they add a lot of functionality. He's refering to making players Profile 1.1.. you know to support everything that exists on HD DVD players. No that's not possible. The only standalone player that is true Profile 1.1 is the $500 Panasonic BD30. It's a good player, but considering what we got for $100 from HD DVD it's ridiculously overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 A friend of mine has just pointed out that some numbers are already being discussed. The whispers are that BDA paid Warner between $450-$650 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 source there boz/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Good news Blu-ray ftw! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Woot Blu-ray :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 A friend of mine has just pointed out that some numbers are already being discussed. The whispers are that BDA paid Warner between $450-$650 million. The fact that both sides did stuff like this makes me mad. The consumer didn't decide anything, the corporations did by purchasing loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I was waiting for something like this, now I can go out and buy a HD Player, and Blu-Ray it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted January 5, 2008 The fact that both sides did stuff like this makes me mad. The consumer didn't decide anything, the corporations did by purchasing loyalty. While I agree the whole war has stunk of "corruption", pay offs, money deals ect, that doesn't excuse Blu Ray outselling HD-DVD for almost the whole year. Joel, you do agree Blu Ray beat HD-DVD on software sales right? The consumers did decide that part... or at least played an important role there. But that is overshadowed by the deeds that no doubt went on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chsoriano Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 The fact that both sides did stuff like this makes me mad. The consumer didn't decide anything, the corporations did by purchasing loyalty. Quite right... sucks really, and if what Boz said is true I will be supremely ****ed, as should everyone else. I have a hd-dvd player but with this news I will probably be buying a dual format player as soon as prices on them come down, and after this ridiculous profile situation is sorted out, that way I can still play my hd-dvd collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaT40 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 w00000000000t.........viva Blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 While I agree the whole war has stunk of "corruption", pay offs, money deals ect, that doesn't excuse Blu Ray outselling HD-DVD for almost the whole year.Joel, you do agree Blu Ray beat HD-DVD on software sales right? The consumers did decide that part... or at least played an important role there. But that is overshadowed by the deeds that no doubt went on behind the scenes. I believe that both sides tried to outdo the other, what with buy a player and get 100 free movies, BOGO or payments to studios to lock out the other guy. If BD outsold HD-DVD for any reason that didn't have to do with free offers, it still doesn't mean that HD-DVD stunk up the joint. We were never talking domination of BD, just steady sales. The fact that BD still isn't even a final standard troubles me and should also trouble the studios as they don't want to be dragged into the consumer problem of deciphering profile version numbers when deciding if they should purchase disc A, when they're not sure it will play in yesterday's BD player. When I'm referring to the indifference of the consumer, it's because Warner's press release is contradictory and insulting. They refer to indifference, then state the consumer demanded BD. If the 2 formats were creating indifference, who demanded something? Just say you made a crapload of money while jerking off the consumer during the Xmas season, and be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 This is good news to wake up to :) hopefully can start mass adoption by end of the year (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted January 5, 2008 I believe that both sides tried to outdo the other, what with buy a player and get 100 free movies, BOGO or payments to studios to lock out the other guy. If BD outsold HD-DVD for any reason that didn't have to do with free offers, it still doesn't mean that HD-DVD stunk up the joint. We were never talking domination of BD, just steady sales. The fact that BD still isn't even a final standard troubles me and should also trouble the studios as they don't want to be dragged into the consumer problem of deciphering profile version numbers when deciding if they should purchase disc A, when they're not sure it will play in yesterday's BD player. When I'm referring to the indifference of the consumer, it's because Warner's press release is contradictory and insulting. They refer to indifference, then state the consumer demanded BD. If the 2 formats were creating indifference, who demanded something? Just say you made a crapload of money while jerking off the consumer during the Xmas season, and be honest. Can't disagree with that, an announcement on the 4TH?! of January (N) Just late enough for some of the Jan sales to have kicked off as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 A friend of mine has just pointed out that some numbers are already being discussed. The whispers are that BDA paid Warner between $450-$650 million. It wouldnt suprise me in the slightest if thats what really happened here. Like i said, the better format has lost. And its all thanks to the Corporations, not the Consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I believe that both sides tried to outdo the other, what with buy a player and get 100 free movies, BOGO or payments to studios to lock out the other guy. If BD outsold HD-DVD for any reason that didn't have to do with free offers, it still doesn't mean that HD-DVD stunk up the joint. We were never talking domination of BD, just steady sales. The fact that BD still isn't even a final standard troubles me and should also trouble the studios as they don't want to be dragged into the consumer problem of deciphering profile version numbers when deciding if they should purchase disc A, when they're not sure it will play in yesterday's BD player. When I'm referring to the indifference of the consumer, it's because Warner's press release is contradictory and insulting. They refer to indifference, then state the consumer demanded BD. If the 2 formats were creating indifference, who demanded something? Just say you made a crapload of money while jerking off the consumer during the Xmas season, and be honest. You are right, the consumer was never given the chance to chose.Only if all studios had been neutral since the beginning would the consumer have chosen. And the one to win would be the one with the lowest prices. If prices had been the same, it would have never ended. Something had to happen. I was hoping, to this point, that all studios went neutral. A lot of players have been sold laready. And BD new features dont bother at all. I didnt care for them before, I dont care for them now. They must stop trying to pass Pip as the next-best-thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Can't disagree with that, an announcement on the 4TH?! of January (N) Just late enough for some of the Jan sales to have kicked off as well. Now that the excitement had died down, I realize how screwed up that is. Oh well, I never liked Warner Bros. anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Glad for Blu Ray, but I knew they'd win when it was first announced, just nice seeing all the cards falling into play. I bet the studios that went HDDVD exclusive are kicking themselves now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritsuke Veteran Posted January 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 5, 2008 http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/War...to_Blu-ray/1327 Warner Home Entertainment President Kevin Tsujihara says the studio took no pay-offs to exclusively back Blu-ray.In a post-announcement conference call, Tsujihara flatly denied rumors that studio had accepted anywhere from 250M to $500M in exchange for dropping its HD DVD format support. According to the exec, Warner's sole motivation in dropping its HD DVD format support was to ensure growth of the "category" and the long-term health of the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/War...to_Blu-ray/1327 Dun dun dun! Truth.... or LIE? :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dun dun dun!Truth.... or LIE? :devil: So they either got paid more than 500 or less than 250? Cuz they were paid for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianwoollam Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/War...to_Blu-ray/1327 Not exactly surprising, they arn't exacly gonna come out and say "Of course we were paid off!" :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Who cares if they got paid or not ... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritsuke Veteran Posted January 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 5, 2008 So they either got paid more than 500 or less than 250? Cuz they were paid for sure! Sony obviously offered Warner a lifetime supply of dish washing, back massages and weekly garbage duty. Who wouldn't cave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogan Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Geez, how quickly you guys forget about the 150 million that was thrown at Paramount and Dreamworks. The crying game for HD-DVD fans has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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