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Apple Releases 2 New "Get A Mac" Ads

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daveoc64    0
Shadow Copy is not the same as Time Machine.

Shadow Copy is only available in Vista Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise editions of Windows Vista. Time Machine is available on all Macs. Shadow Copy only makes copies of files to the same hard drive as the file source. If you have a hard drive failure, Shadow Copy can't help you. Time Machine backs up files to a second hard drive. You need to use Automatic File Backup to backup files to a second hard drive. Neither Shadow Copy or Automatic File backup can be used to restore a bootable system though. With Time Machine, you can restore your backup to a new hard drive, similar to using Ghost or True Image. To get imaging capabilities in Vista, you need to use Windows Complete PC Backup, which again, is only available in Vista Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise.

To get the same functionality of Time Machine in Vista, you need Vista Ultimate, Business, or Enterprise, use Automatic File Backup to create scheduled backups of your files, and Complete PC Backup to make bootable images of your drive. Microsoft may provide feature parity with Time Machine, but it's not as elegant, and not in all versions of Vista.

That's one flaw with Time Machine.

The majority of computers Apple sells are Notebooks.

I can't use Time Machine because I can't keep a HDD plugged in all the time (or frequently enough for it to be worth it).

Shadow Copy in Windows runs on the same HDD which works perfectly for me.

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NateB1    75
Shadow Copy is not the same as Time Machine.

Shadow Copy is only available in Vista Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise editions of Windows Vista. Time Machine is available on all Macs. Shadow Copy only makes copies of files to the same hard drive as the file source. If you have a hard drive failure, Shadow Copy can't help you. Time Machine backs up files to a second hard drive. You need to use Automatic File Backup to backup files to a second hard drive. Neither Shadow Copy or Automatic File backup can be used to restore a bootable system though. With Time Machine, you can restore your backup to a new hard drive, similar to using Ghost or True Image. To get imaging capabilities in Vista, you need to use Windows Complete PC Backup, which again, is only available in Vista Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise.

To get the same functionality of Time Machine in Vista, you need Vista Ultimate, Business, or Enterprise, use Automatic File Backup to create scheduled backups of your files, and Complete PC Backup to make bootable images of your drive. Microsoft may provide feature parity with Time Machine, but it's not as elegant, and not in all versions of Vista.

Not so - Shadow Copy is available on all versions of Vista - the front-end interface is only available in said versions. You can access the shadow copies in all editions of Vista via a program like the free Shadow Explorer.

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Elliott    235
That's one flaw with Time Machine.

The majority of computers Apple sells are Notebooks.

I can't use Time Machine because I can't keep a HDD plugged in all the time (or frequently enough for it to be worth it).

Shadow Copy in Windows runs on the same HDD which works perfectly for me.

Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme + External HD, or an Xserve (for the extreme cases). They all get rid of that "flaw."

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That Guy    11

Jeez, shut up guys ;)

I use Vista, but that doesn't mean I get all pi$$y when Apple release an advert targetting Vista. In fact, I find it to be a good ad, both in terms of humour, and the way they represent the problems in vista.

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Quillz    1,011
Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme + External HD, or an Xserve (for the extreme cases). They all get rid of that "flaw."

But it's expensive to get rid of that flaw, isn't it? Convenient Apple disabled Time Machine so that you're pretty much limited to Apple branded hardware to get Time Machine to work the way it used to.

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Mikee99    0
Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme + External HD, or an Xserve (for the extreme cases). They all get rid of that "flaw."

Yes, but in reality, hardly anyone is going to spend lots of money on those accessories. Only a small percentage (mostly the fanboys and die hard Apple fans) of MacBook/Air/Pro users are going to fully utilize this feature. Honestly, most desktop systems aren't even going to utilize this feature.

So no, it does not eliminate that "flaw".

EDIT: Damn, the above poster beat me to finish the post!

Opinions do not equal facts. Frankly, OS X was complete crap until 10.2. See? Now my opinion is fact.

Actually, OS X was crap until 10.3. 10.2 was absolutely awful, IMO.

Edited by Mikee99

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osirisX    2
But it's expensive to get rid of that flaw, isn't it? Convenient Apple disabled Time Machine so that you're pretty much limited to Apple branded hardware to get Time Machine to work the way it used to.

Convenient they also enabled it with the Time Machine + AirPort and AirPort Extreme Driver updates ;)

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Dashel    542

**** Apple and their tired bull****.

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hotdog666al    31

I think half of the people here have forgotten the audience the adverts are aimed at: N00bs!

Clearly, they buy this, otherwise Apple wouldn't keep making the adverts.

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Hal2k1    0

A lot of harsh and stressed pc users here... c'mon people, get a life, get a mac :D

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Minimoose    2

I use XP, I dont like vista from the little I've used it and I've used OSX for about 2 hours and it didnt strike me as brilliant. At first these adverts were good (although they only advertise the product by 'de-advertising' another) but now they have just become annoying...

They could have got through the same amount of actual information in an advert saying 'Vista is crap' and 'Buy OSX because its wonderful' (This would have cost them a lot less time and money as well)

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Hal2k1    0

The ad with mr bean is awesome LINK

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Mikee99    0
c'mon people, get a life, get a mac :D

It's annoying and smuggy statements like that which actually discourage many people from buying a mac. (Myself included)

And people are annoyed b/c frankly, Apple LIES in their ads. They are extremely annoying, filled with mis-information, and cater to the zealotry crowd.

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acies    0
It's annoying and smuggy statements like that which actually discourage many people from buying a mac. (Myself included)

And people are annoyed b/c frankly, Apple LIES in their ads. They are extremely annoying, filled with mis-information, and cater to the zealotry crowd.

Christ, they're just bloody ads, get over it already. 80% of ads are annoying & stupid anyway.

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Hell-In-A-Handbasket    277

who said you need the External plugged in all the time,, i usually plug my time machine drive in every couple days i don't change files on my system THAT much for it to be plugged in constantly

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Brandon Live    232

Heh, I clicked on the Yoga ad, it started playing, and Quicktime crashed.

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MrFuji    2

^ :laugh:

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Elliot B.    1,621

Some of you guys are getting way to involved with this. Maybe this'll lighten the mood a little?:

"My girlfriend told me she's pregnant...

It was an April fools' joke though.

Joke's on her because I threw her down the stairs."

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LTD    0
Some of you guys are getting way to involved with this. Maybe this'll lighten the mood a little?:

"My girlfriend told me she's pregnant...

It was an April fools' joke though.

Joke's on her because I threw her down the stairs."

LOL, thread finally delivers!

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punktematrix    9

NO GODDAMNIT STEVE JOBS YOU LAME ASS HIPSTER MAKING FUN OF MY SACRED PC!!! I WILL TAKE REVENGE UPON THOU WITH MY GINORMOUS HEATSINK AND FAN!

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fix-this!    76
They're not lies. Vista is having a lot of trouble at the moment and it certainly doesn't help that PC hardware comes from all different places. Sure it means customizability, but it also warrants more work to get it all going and get it all going well for an extended amount of time.

vista is not having problems. the problem really is people install it on machines that clearly cant handle it. i have been running vista since it came out with zero issues.

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Matrix XII    38
Mac users are so cool, need to buy a mac, i dont want to be a stressed windows user anymore :s

That kinda cracked me up

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Noveed    21

the adds are a tad plaggy and cheesy. yes they maybe humourous but still they are plaggy as.

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LTD    0
the adds are a tad plaggy and cheesy. yes they maybe humourous but still they are plaggy as.

Is it worse than the . . . Black Plag?

Most plags are caused by rubbish, anyway.

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abcdefg    0
vista is not having problems. the problem really is people install it on machines that clearly cant handle it. i have been running vista since it came out with zero issues.

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calculating time remaining... :woot:

Zero problems

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