Euro 2008

[ozulus]

christiano ronaldo ALWAYS scored against average to lesser clubs.

the goal he scored to chelsea in CL final was his FIRST GOAL ever against chelsea. and i cant remember him scoring against arsenal or liverpool more than once.

he is a great player for good to mediocre games. he is not the player for TOP games and ewveryone saw it in eht CL final.

He missed a penalty kick and he missed another penalty kick in the semi finals of CL and played terribly.

team play was succes for MAN UTD's glory this year and also of course ronaldo's goals against mediocre premiership teams.

so as i said. the CLOWN a.k.a. ronaldo just brought them to somehwere but it was not HIM whom gave the glory to man utd. same will happen with portugal.

Fortunately Portugal doesn't have only him. You give Cristiano Ronaldo way too much credit. We have other good players that are far better team players than him, such as Moutinho and Deco.

[maplecookie Veteran]

It's great you all have love for your country and team, but do not flame others.

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[Martyn]

why would you bet agains turkey?

that is silly.

Well, generally I have been pretty successful at betting in this tournament! I am still like ?20 up I think overall, so I think I am justified in placing a bet against Turkey. Likewise, seeing as the Czech's where 2-0 up against the "future World Champions" Turkey for 75 minutes of the match, and of which Turkey only won due to a bit of luck and a massive Cech mistake...I am justified.

As for this Turan player who seems to be your gay friend, and who is supposedly better than any player in this tournament, who is supposedly better than Ronaldo, Deco, Villa, Torres, Xavi, Fabregas, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Ballack, Lahm. How come no one has never heard of him? I'd like to think I have a fairly decent knowledge of the footballing world, but I have never heard of Turan before the Euro's. If he is better than any player in the world, how come no one has heard of him...and why hasn't he been snapped up by a big club if he is that good;))?

Fair play to Turkey though mate(Y)). Although, I cannot see you winning the Euro's (and you can quote me on that), but I suppose you never know.

Anyway, I'm going to be putting most of your ignorance and sheer...weirdness down to the fact that you don't have a full grasp of the English language. You've raised a few good points though overall and Turkey have definitely provided us with some entertaining football!

[Alfista]

Well, generally I have been pretty successful at betting in this tournament! I am still like ?20 up I think overall, so I think I am justified in placing a bet against Turkey. Likewise, seeing as the Czech's where 2-0 up against the "future World Champions" Turkey for 75 minutes of the match, and of which Turkey only won due to a bit of luck and a massive Cech mistake...I am justified.

As for this Turan player who seems to be your>ga> friend, and who is supposedly better than any player in this tournament, who is supposedly better than Ronaldo, Deco, Villa, Torres, Xavi, Fabregas, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Ballack, Lahm. How come no one has never heard of him? I'd like to think I have a fairly decent knowledge of the footballing world, but I have never heard of Turan before the Euro's. If he is better than any player in the world, how come no one has heard of him...and why hasn't he been snapped up by a big club if he is that good;))?

Fair play to Turkey though mate(Y)). Although, I cannot see you winning the Euro's (and you can quote me on that), but I suppose you never know.

Anyway, I'm going to be putting most of your ignorance and sheer...weirdness down to the fact that you don't have a full grasp of the English language. You've raised a few good points though overall and Turkey have definitely provided us with some entertaining football!

first of all i do not share your homosexual fantasies cause i am not gay and do not have any gay friends. Either you are gay or just because having conversations that you end up loosing you try to humiliate me but you humiliate yourself way too much. If your world is too small and you only know players that are advertisement materials than it is your loss. Go out. There are great talents in the world and Arda Turan is a pure talent that many big clubs will try to sign but will not succeed due to his love to galatasaray.

I do not need to know perfect english to explain myself cause i know a total of 4 languages and i am not uneducated and selfish to just stick with 1 language. because the world is global and people whom live in their shelves turn out to be a small person.

You said that i have raised good points. Most of those good points were ones that people laughed ooff just a week ago. I am sure you will be seeing that even more of my points will turn out to be true.

Several newspapers all around the world are saying that turkey's last night comeback was the best comeback in the EURO CUP history. check it out yourselves if you ever saw a better come back than this in EURO CUPs.

anyway. see you all on friday after our victory against croatia.

[L3thal Veteran]

Best comeback? More like worst meltdown...

[Alfista]

best comeback = worst meltdown.

one comes back

other melts down

[L3thal Veteran]

There's a difference. Its the worst meltdown when you have one of the best goalies in the world fumble a ball in his own box and when 6 defenders are caught so off guard that Nihat could've just walked into the net.

Best comeback is when a team legitimately comes back and scores goals that don't require a goalie to fumble a ball.

Nonetheless, it was a very entertaining match and I congratulate the Turks.

[Rappy Veteran]

Germany vs Austria = I think Austria are going to win this with the fan support!

[L3thal Veteran]

I am rooting for Austria as well. Part because Austria is the biggest underdog (ranked almost 100th in FIFA rankings) and because I'd rather have Portugal face Austria than Germany :p

[brentaal]

It's gonna be a tough one... I'd give 50/50 chances to each... Austria will be certainly motivated enough to win + the support, while Germany will mostly think about the possible failure (advancing to the quarterfinals isnt a succes for them...)

Poland will probably beat Croatia, cause they're gonna play with 8 non-standard players (perhaps even 9, possibly the goalie will be replaced too)

What I'm really looking forward to is tommorows match between France and Italy :D

[Dev Null Zen]

also turkey was terrible between 2002 and 2007. but now we are so good that argentina would never stand a chance against turkey.

Argentina and Brazil. two teams that do not play by heart. stars always let you down. Remember when real madrid was los galacticos? they earned NOTHING.

anyway.

turkey would crash argentina. but thats not todays conversation. we will talk about this in 2 years.

31 time La Liga Champions. 9 time Champions League champions. They earned nothing? You show your lack of football knowledge right there.

And Argentina will crush Turkey. You need to make sure you even qualify for the world cup first.

first of all i do not share your homosexual fantasies cause i am not gay and do not have any gay friends. Either you are gay or just because having conversations that you end up loosing you try to humiliate me but you humiliate yourself way too much. If your world is too small and you only know players that are advertisement materials than it is your loss. Go out. There are great talents in the world and Arda Turan is a pure talent that many big clubs will try to sign but will not succeed due to his love to galatasaray.

I do not need to know perfect english to explain myself cause i know a total of 4 languages and i am not uneducated and selfish to just stick with 1 language. because the world is global and people whom live in their shelves turn out to be a small person.

You said that i have raised good points. Most of those good points were ones that people laughed ooff just a week ago. I am sure you will be seeing that even more of my points will turn out to be true.

Several newspapers all around the world are saying that turkey's last night comeback was the best comeback in the EURO CUP history. check it out yourselves if you ever saw a better come back than this in EURO CUPs.

anyway. see you all on friday after our victory against croatia.

If Turan was wanted by any of the big 4 in england, or the tops in spain or italy, his "love" for galatasary would suddenly disappear. Money talks, plain and simple. As much as I love the toon, Newcastle is having problems signing anyone right now, much less any up and coming talents. You can't use them be refused as any kind of definitive statement.

Oh, and btw, English is THE global language.

Germany vs Austria = I think Austria are going to win this with the fan support!

We can only hope.

[sn00pie]

Turkey will crush Argentina? Have you been living under a rock? Even if Argentina played a full squad of backups, even then it wouldn't be a crushing. Messi and Riquelme alone are enough to topple Turkey! :D

Turkey made a very impressive comeback, I will give them that. But they were non-existent for 3/4 the game. If not for those last 15 minutes, they would've been finished.

[L3thal Veteran]

I am sure Turkey will crush Brazil too :rolleyes:

[MrFuji]

I really hope Germany's going to win today :)

As for the statistics, the last game Austria won against Germany was WM 1978 in Argentina. Exactly 30 years ago - bad omen?

We'll see !

[Keito]

Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78!

[Rappy Veteran]

I am sure Turkey will crush Brazil too :rolleyes:

After their performance against Paraguay who knows.

[L3thal Veteran]

After their performance against Paraguay who knows.

Good point :laugh:

[MrFuji]

Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78! Cordoba '78!

I would be happy with another Euro '88 ;)

[Keito]

I would be happy with another Euro '88 ;)

Well, as I'm both Dutch and Austrian I want them both :p

Cordoba '78 and Germany '88 <3

[Rappy Veteran]

Lets hope it isn't like this

[Rappy Veteran]

How did Gomez miss!

[Pajter]

What are those coaches up to? :laugh:

[Rappy Veteran]

What are those coaches up to? :laugh:

Yeah thats crazy because its not like they hate each other because they shook hands after they walked away.

[Pajter]

Man, they must feel like crap right now. Can't even get to their team anymore. That must be devastating being a coach, in such an important match as this.

IMO a bit of an overreaction by the referee.

[gregb0b]

After their performance against Paraguay who knows.

No Kaka or Ronaldiho... what did you expect? Hahaha