Battlefield Bad Company

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

To say I am thoroughly disappointed is an understatement. :no:

How in the world they thought it would be a good idea to make your main base something that could be captured by the opposing team is absolutely beyond me. That was a mainstay in previous Conquest modes, no matter what, you always had your main base to fall back on if all of the flags were captured. GETTING RID OF THIS IS A HUGE ALTERATION TO THE GAMEPLAY ITSELF. Sorry for the all caps, but I am literally dumbfounded they chose to do this. Now that is completely gone, out of the 6 matches or so I played, half of them were over in about 4-5 minutes time, if that.

Seriously, I cannot comprehend why they chose to do get rid of always having a main base that could not be captured. :wacko: :crazy:

Granted I only played on my lunch break, and will give it another chance later on tonight, but my first impression is an extremely negative one.

I actually have been renting the game this entire time through Gamefly, I thought I purchased it but I never wound up doing so, and I may just send it back soon, as a Mode I really thought would add months of longevity to the game, appears to have been dramatically changed from past iterations, and it is now only a shallow shell of what it once was.

I hope something is wrong with the update, and they release a patch soon to fix this tragic oversight, but I think for whatever reason they thought it was a good idea to change the formula that has worked for them the past how many years now? I am just blown away, and obviously not in a good way.

So, is this mode like in BF2 then? I honestly can't remember the name of the BF2 mode but kills would decrease the team score and if you captured a flag, that area of the map would turn as a base for your team. Is that correct?

It is a bastardized version of that classic mode.

[Massiveterra]

1.5 minute games are not cool. I myself was very disappointed with this mode, especially after all o the hype

[Chanser]

Had a squad member member killing me while capping. Have no idea why, but I think this is part of the Xbox Live experience. :hmmm:

[habnad]

Thanks for the mini-reviews Andy/Larry. I've been curious as to how the gameplay is pretty much all day today.

I don't know what to think based on your reviews, as I do not have any expectations as to what Conquest was like on the PC side.

But from what you guys are saying, it doesn't sound too promising.

[Chanser]

One big problem I could see is the unbalanced teams, so you could have one team take all the flags within a few minutes. I agree it needs uncappable bases.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I'm not sure how much more of Gold Rush I can take. I mean I like the game mode and it plays well, but having played it for nearly 2 months now, it's getting old and I need a change. I was hoping they'd just include Conquest like it was in every other BF game, but its way different.

I can see myself playing a lot less now tbh, at least until they patch Goldrush and hopefully patch Conquest.

I think I might spend a bit more time playing the Battlefield Heroes beta

[Sethos]

That was like getting tea-bagged in a dress :/

I hate how they tried focusing on certain gameplay elements like close quarters combat in Ascension and Oasis. The Shotgun has removed any chance of some fun and balanced CQB matches, that's for sure.

You also have to deal with extremely random spawns constantly, because the flags are pretty close together. Then you get the hang of the CQB, then you are suddenly thrown in this huge map and you have to drastically change play-style again ( Which is extremely annoying ).

What annoyed me the most was the problems we had in the beginning, like playing the same maps constantly and the bullet-lag I had throughout the game.

Don't think I'll be playing this game-mode again tonight, doesn't get any better until they at least fix a few things.

I'll stick to Goldrush (Y)

[se7en.hu]

That sucks. I was looking forward to it and it appears as though it sucks, ill test it a little later. :(

[L3thal Veteran]

Played it this morning and it was fine. At least everyone on the team has a goal of actually overtaking the flags unlike gold rush where they don't care about the gold, they just want to rake up the kills.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Thanks for the mini-reviews Andy/Larry. I've been curious as to how the gameplay is pretty much all day today.

I don't know what to think based on your reviews, as I do not have any expectations as to what Conquest was like on the PC side.

But from what you guys are saying, it doesn't sound too promising.

Do not get me wrong, it can still be fun to play, but it gets down to the quote I quoted below. One team can now truly completely dominate, and dominating means matches are over in minutes, literally.

One big problem I could see is the unbalanced teams, so you could have one team take all the flags within a few minutes. I agree it needs uncappable bases.

Still not sure what they were thinking getting rid of uncappable bases. Just seems so stupid to get rid of that huge, huge factor.

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

Over at the EA forums the knobs/noobs?can never remember which it is :), all think Conquest is amazing (well all 12 of them that post on there)

And in other news ...

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Edited August 7, 2008 by BeLGaRaTh

[Massiveterra]

Clan support/private rooms/team chat

Auto balancing on servers

Continued support against stats exploits

VOIP issue on PS3 (working with Sony on this)

Squads might be split up when joining a server as a squad. This is due to team balancing in the games that are being joined, and usually resolves itself in round 2.

/The Battlefield: Bad Company team

Have they put dates to these patches?

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Over at the EA forums the knobs/noobs?can never remember which it is :), all think Conquest is amazing (well all 12 of them that post on there)

And in other news ...

Does the Youtube tag not work anymore?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQCWbmOG2oM.swf

Here you go :p

[Sethos]

So what's the plan for tonight, what time, which game-mode, are we even playing :p ?

Really in the mood for BF today.

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

I'll be on around 10ish (UK time), if still awake, don't mind either mode really.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I've snapped my disk in disgust at Conquest mode so I'm out :p

[Massiveterra]

munky, snap your disk one last time

by the way, I'm going on around 6/6:30 EST

[Sethos]

You probably ain't kidding :rofl:

[habnad]

I'll be around 6PM as well. Maybe a little earlier.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

You probably ain't kidding :rofl:

Fighting the urge not to tbh! But yeah I'll be on soon and give it another go. I've still to try End of the Line in Conquest. I doubt it's gonna change my mind much, but I'll play a few rounds of Gold Rush too.

I'm trying to think of another multiplayer game to fill the gap Conquest has left..

COD4 is just...meh, I couldn't get back into it when we played.

What about Halo 3 :woot: :p

[mattmatik]

Just had a quick 1 hour play in Conquest. Matches went from about 5 minutes to almost 10 minutes, just depends on the goal of the teams. I had one match last 4:23, reason being everyone just ran out into the middle and shot each other. Of course, you have the 1 or 2 players who know to go get flags (and they were on the other team LOL) so it went quick. The 10 minute game I was in was a lot of fun and there was a TON of jockeying for flags.

I don't mind the mode at all I just wish people would learn to play the right way. If I wanted a straight frag fest I would go get back into UT. Basically, it feels like my Gold Rush experiences. People don't defend at all - everyone is on the offensive but then they don't actually CAPTURE flags/detonate crates. I won't give up on the game because eventually this type of play will weed out.

As Larry and others mentioned, if they would just make the bases uncappable. One good example is the last match I was in. Red team had all positions captured save for one. Brilliantly (yet here is where the rub is) they took all their tanks and vehicles and lined them up on the last remaining blue position (yep, where everyone respawns). Eventually I just watched the bar tick down as lives were lost and there was no way to respawn at all. No squad, no base, nothing. Respawn, die. Respawn, die.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I think there is quite a few of us here who have played Conquest a lot in the past, and it certainly didn't help paint a better picture of the mode. Infact, being too good at the mode and you'll end up actually playing less. I'm not even kidding when I say both Sethos and I played a match which was 1.5 minutes long.

[Sethos]

Yeah, I barely got done scratching my ass before we were done :|

But about filling the FPS gap, I have been wanting to go back to Halo 3 for a long time - Really miss the game.

Only thing keeping my from doing it is that god awful random game-mode selection. I hate playing some random matches with some messed up rulesets because that's someones idea of "fun".

Sure I can do play some matches without ranking up, but that's 1/3 of the fun in playing.

It is still like that, right? :p

[Massiveterra]

I personally have never played Halo 3, since I'm a 360 noob and just got it this past December. Dave J. has been trying to convince me to rent it. If you guys are def down to be in a Halo mood for a good month, I'll get it from Gamefly.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

I'll be around 6PM as well. Maybe a little earlier.

Ditto.