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[giantpotato]

Linkie

Damn, I should have learned how to model. I had an idea for a switchblade for the spy a while back, but couldn't really figure out how to model it.

The guy who created the Equalizer plays on the same server I regularly do, I'll have to find out if he got a cut of the money. Last I heard he wasn't getting a single penny.

[Athernar]

Damn, I should have learned how to model. I had an idea for a switchblade for the spy a while back, but couldn't really figure out how to model it.

The guy who created the Equalizer plays on the same server I regularly do, I'll have to find out if he got a cut of the money. Last I heard he wasn't getting a single penny.

He didn't make the model, he only proposed the stats. Which is why he has a Community Equalizer rather than a Self-Made one.

[Doli]

You can trade Keys now. Some guy wanted 18 keys for his Max's head hat... too much for me.

[Argi]

I'm looking to trade my Bill's Hat - anyone interested? ?I'm after two or so hats, preferably from the list of Vintage Tyrolean, Procedure Mask, Brigade's Helm or Chieftan's Challenge.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

Last I heard the Chieftain is worth 2 or 3 hats. I have one. :p

[Argi]

Last I heard the Chieftain is worth 2 or 3 hats. I have one. :p

Bill's Hat is worth a couple of chieftan's since it's unobtainable.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

Personally, I go 1 hat for 1 hat. If someone doesn't like that it's tough. Sometimes if it's something I want I'll throw in a scrap.

[Minifig]

Bill's Hat is worth a couple of chieftan's since it's unobtainable.

This isn't true. It drops.

[+Majesticmerc MVC]

This isn't true. It drops.

As far as I was aware Bill's hat is only available to those who bought Left 4 Dead 2?

[Nagisan]

Last I heard the Chieftain is worth 2 or 3 hats. I have one. :p

Last I heard, a hat is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay. As such, every hat is worth only 1 other hat to me personally.

This isn't true. It drops.

No it doesn't, the only way to get Bill's hat was the pre-order L4D2, currently, the only way to get a Bill's Hat is to trade for one.....no new Bill's hats are being added to the TF2 economy and unless Valve changes something no new Bill's hats will ever be added to the TF2 economy.

[Kane]

I'm looking to trade my Bill's Hat - anyone interested? I'm after two or so hats, preferably from the list of Vintage Tyrolean, Procedure Mask, Brigade's Helm or Chieftan's Challenge.

I'll offer my Vintage Engineers Cap and Vintage Shooters Sola topi if you'd like those. I know it's not any of the ones you listed but just thought i'd put that offer there for you.

[Argi]

Thanks for the offers but the item's no longer available. Was keen to offload it before the end of the day since I was hovering over my threads in the steam forums all day at work. :laugh:

[ViZioN]

Thanks for the offers but the item's no longer available. Was keen to offload it before the end of the day since I was hovering over my threads in the steam forums all day at work. :laugh:

Can I ask what you traded it for? Last time I looked at the Steam forums, Bill's hat was trading for a few hats, but no-where near what people were trading for a Chieftain's Challenge.

[Minifig]

No it doesn't, the only way to get Bill's hat was the pre-order L4D2, currently, the only way to get a Bill's Hat is to trade for one.....no new Bill's hats are being added to the TF2 economy and unless Valve changes something no new Bill's hats will ever be added to the TF2 economy.

They have been dropping on the server I play on.. o_O.

[Nagisan]

They have been dropping on the server I play on.. o_O.

Not via the random drop system. Its possible the server you play on has a few people who pre-ordered L4D2 and just not started playing TF2 again or so. Just because they are dropping doesn't mean the items are coming from the drop system. I have seen Sam and Max items drop as recently as the last time I played (last week) because the person only just now played TF2 and actually got the item. You could pre-order a game that gives you a hat in TF2, then wait till next year without playing TF2, then as soon as you die when you start playing TF2 again you will get the item.

[ViZioN]

Not via the random drop system. Its possible the server you play on has a few people who pre-ordered L4D2 and just not started playing TF2 again or so. Just because they are dropping doesn't mean the items are coming from the drop system. I have seen Sam and Max items drop as recently as the last time I played (last week) because the person only just now played TF2 and actually got the item. You could pre-order a game that gives you a hat in TF2, then wait till next year without playing TF2, then as soon as you die when you start playing TF2 again you will get the item.

I suppose it's also possible the server has some sort of mod on it too that drops the hats temporarily to people for gaining specific server achievements.

[Nagisan]

I suppose it's also possible the server has some sort of mod on it too that drops the hats temporarily to people for gaining specific server achievements.

Thats another possibility, it could always be a server mod. Either way though, if you do not already have Bill's Hat and did not pre-order L4D2, the only way to get it is via trading.

[Athernar]

Item find/trade/craft/unbox/purchase event messages can be really easily spoofed, my server has an in-house SourceMod plugin that can spoof any item with any quality. It's all just text pretty much.

[Minifig]

Not via the random drop system. Its possible the server you play on has a few people who pre-ordered L4D2 and just not started playing TF2 again or so. Just because they are dropping doesn't mean the items are coming from the drop system. I have seen Sam and Max items drop as recently as the last time I played (last week) because the person only just now played TF2 and actually got the item. You could pre-order a game that gives you a hat in TF2, then wait till next year without playing TF2, then as soon as you die when you start playing TF2 again you will get the item.

They have been dropping via the random drop system. I own LFD2 and I've never gotten a bill's hat..ever.

[Lewism]

They have been dropping via the random drop system. I own LFD2 and I've never gotten a bill's hat..ever.

For L4D2, you had to pre-order it to receive it. Linky.

[Argi]

Can I ask what you traded it for? Last time I looked at the Steam forums, Bill's hat was trading for a few hats, but no-where near what people were trading for a Chieftain's Challenge.

I had 2 Bill's Hat. For them both I got a Vintage Tyrolean (painted white like I wanted), a Procedure Mask, Pyro's Brigade Helm and a Chieftan's Challenge.

[Nagisan]

They have been dropping via the random drop system. I own LFD2 and I've never gotten a bill's hat..ever.

No they haven't. The only people who get Bills hat are those who pre-ordered L4D2 through Steam and I think Gamestop as well. They can wait any amount of time before playing TF2 again afterwards and when they do they will then get their hat.

The only way to get Bill's hat if you did not preorder L4D2 is to trade for one, period, end of story.

You may think you see them dropping through the random drop system but it doesn't work that way, ask Robin (the lead TF2 developer) himself at [email protected] (email) if you don't believe me.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Can't believe how awesome this game runs on my hackintosh <3

[Athernar]

No they haven't. The only people who get Bills hat are those who pre-ordered L4D2 through Steam and I think Gamestop as well. They can wait any amount of time before playing TF2 again afterwards and when they do they will then get their hat.

The only way to get Bill's hat if you did not preorder L4D2 is to trade for one, period, end of story.

You may think you see them dropping through the random drop system but it doesn't work that way, ask Robin (the lead TF2 developer) himself at [email protected] (email) if you don't believe me.

Listen to Nagisan on this, he's completely right.

As someone who has fair bit of experience with the item-system/APIs (They did give me a Community Weapon after all), I can guarantee you any "evidence" you've seen of a Bill's Hat / Other promotional items dropping are for the following reasons:

1. Faked using Server-side SourceMod plugins. (Just a bunch of text)

2. Found by someone who hasn't played TF2 since the original promotion. (Items were sitting unclaimed in the "New Slot" of the player's backpack)

[ViZioN]

Can't believe how awesome this game runs on my hackintosh <3

Isn't running that great on my comp anymore. It's picky and refuses to boot with my overclock now so I'm reduced to running at stock. And I'm not resorting to fps aka Lego TF2 just yet :p

Just another month to hold on and can order my new rig once the ATi Cayman cards get released.