official Team Fortress 2

[Athernar]

FTFY. At the minute F2P and new players are synonomous, but there can be paying players that are noobs too. As time goes on, a lot of the F2P players will become better and play just as well as those who paid for the game.

Doubtful. In most cases it's likely that F2P players that enjoy the game will upgrade to premium themselves or will be upgraded by friends.

I find it highly unlikely any dedicated player will tolerate the restrictions placed on free accounts.

[SteelToast]

I am a dedicated F2P team fortress 2 player, as in I play alot, listen to team mates if they have suggestions, and never spawn as a sniper or spy as there are too many of them, I would love to buy things from Mann Co. store but the problem is with the credit card, I would gladly go to shops like Walmart to get something like prepaid Steam Wallet Cards to pay for it... If only Valve could introduce this...

[Slammers]

Doubtful. In most cases it's likely that F2P players that enjoy the game will upgrade to premium themselves or will be upgraded by friends.

I find it highly unlikely any dedicated player will tolerate the restrictions placed on free accounts.

I'm still a noob, only played a handful of hours, but the first thing I did was upgrade to premium account after I'd installed it. It cost me 0.99c so there was really no reason not too.

I am a dedicated F2P team fortress 2 player, as in I play alot, listen to team mates if they have suggestions, and never spawn as a sniper or spy as there are too many of them, I would love to buy things from Mann Co. store but the problem is with the credit card, I would gladly go to shops like Walmart to get something like prepaid Steam Wallet Cards to pay for it... If only Valve could introduce this...

Why not just get a debit card? Mine costs me $5 a year. Or just use someone else's. Really not hard. I barely shop at physical stores any more for anything other than food or sales. It's just too expensive compared to buying online.

[SteelToast]

Why not just get a debit card? Mine costs me $5 a year. Or just use someone else's. Really not hard. I barely shop at physical stores any more for anything other than food or sales. It's just too expensive compared to buying online.

The problem with any sort of online payment system is that is vulnerable to hackers, if Steam gets hacked (which I hope never happens), everyone is screwed...

[Athernar]

The problem with any sort of online payment system is that is vulnerable to hackers, if Steam gets hacked (which I hope never happens), everyone is screwed...

Valve aren't utterly incompetant like Sony, and don't store credit card details as plaintext; So there isn't really anything to worry about.

As long as you practice good online security you'll be fine. You could always use an intermediary system like Paypal or etc if you're that paranoid.

[Slammers]

Valve aren't utterly incompetant like Sony, and don't store credit card details as plaintext; So there isn't really anything to worry about.

As long as you practice good online security you'll be fine. You could always use an intermediary system like Paypal or etc if you're that paranoid.

This^

I just have a separate account for my debit card and when I buy something online I just transfer the needed funds into the debit card account through internet banking. Takes all of 1 min so still faster than going to the shop.

[Denis W. Veteran]

I think one of my F2P friends (now turned premium) picked me to receive this (whoever it was, thanks!):

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Professor_Speks

Just got that dropped into my backpack.

[Danielle1989]

Does anybody have a Soldiers Stash or a Stainless Pot? If so, send me a PM and we could trade :)

[Denis W. Veteran]

I got two Summer Coolers. If Valve does the same thing they did with Festive Crates, would that mean only of the coolers can be opened (per person)?

edit: nevermind, didn't realize special cooler keys can be purchased now :p

[Ayepecks]

I've got three summer coolers if anyone wants to trade for them. Also have a festive holiday hat (Christmas tree hat) I'll trade. Will edit this post when I check my backpack for more stuff I'd be willing to trade.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

is Neowin's Server still up ? havent been able to find it for a while

[Denis W. Veteran]

is Neowin's Server still up ? havent been able to find it for a while

No, it's been down for quite a while. I'm going to unsticky that thread since it seems to be confusing some people.

On topic, it seems like no free cooler keys this time around. :/

[Athernar]

No, it's been down for quite a while. I'm going to unsticky that thread since it seems to be confusing some people.

On topic, it seems like no free cooler keys this time around. :/

There weren't the first time around, the winter keys only unlocked winter crates; the free key was a "Stocking stuffer key" which unlocked normal crates; and was introduced some time afterwards.

[sava700]

No, it's been down for quite a while. I'm going to unsticky that thread since it seems to be confusing some people.

On topic, it seems like no free cooler keys this time around. :/

I really don't see why they didn't give every premium member a free key on the 4th of July. I'm most curious about a few things, these coolers expire but then what...what will be in the #22 crates at that point and do they have a higher percentage on the unusual drop rate like the #6's did. Also as for crates it seems they are getting more and more rare thus more valued since 1-18 no longer drop at all, I'm wondering if they will keep on increasing in value or not.

It's time they released a crate that offers a 5% drop rate or more on the unusuals to give people a better chance at finding them AND make the crates craftable say 8 turns into 1 scrap or something.

There weren't the first time around, the winter keys only unlocked winter crates; the free key was a "Stocking stuffer key" which unlocked normal crates; and was introduced some time afterwards.

The Stocking Stuffer Key was the Winter key.... it was givin free to unload a #6 or Winter Festive Crate but would also unlock the regular crates and after the deadline it reverted back to a regular key anyway.

The stocking stuffer key was released for sale a few days before Xmas but everyone got a free one on Xmas day.

[Denis W. Veteran]

I suppose I'll open the last cooler today (I had two). I'm still hoarding a large mass of crates that date back to the first wave of drops.

One of my coolers got me the Heavy's cop helmet.

[Athernar]

The Stocking Stuffer Key was the Winter key.... it was givin free to unload a #6 or Winter Festive Crate but would also unlock the regular crates and after the deadline it reverted back to a regular key anyway.

The stocking stuffer key was released for sale a few days before Xmas but everyone got a free one on Xmas day.

No, it wasn't. Get your facts straight.

The Festive Winter Crates were unlocked by Festive Winter Keys (Definition index 5049), Stocking Stuffer Keys (Definition index 5057) still exist and were given to all users as a one-off.

[Ayepecks]

You're really trying to change the discussion from what you first said:

There weren't the first time around, the winter keys only unlocked winter crates; the free key was a "Stocking stuffer key" which unlocked normal crates; and was introduced some time afterwards.

You could unlock any crates with the Stocking Stuffer Key, including Winter Crates. It was also not introduced "some time afterwards." It was released around the same time.

Get your facts straight.

[Athernar]

You're really trying to change the discussion from what you first said:

You could unlock any crates with the Stocking Stuffer Key, including Winter Crates. It was also not introduced "some time afterwards." It was released around the same time.

Get your facts straight.

Wow, your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible. :laugh:

Fact is: The Festive (Winter) key wasn't the Stocking key, it was released a fair period of time after the Festives items (Dec 11 vs 23), and I didn't say that the Stocking key couldn't open Festive crates.

[External HDD Veteran]

got an unusual from the summer coolers and sold it for 100$ :)

Well, then I got bored of this hat thing so I am buying metal for all my hats if anyone is interested. Most of them are for 2 refined, given they are not genuine or set hats. here is my backpack:

http://tf2b.com/?id=76561197994721033

if anyone is interested, feel free to add me on steam and please mention neowin :)

[Athernar]

got an unusual from the summer coolers and sold it for 100$ :)

Well, then I got bored of this hat thing so I am buying metal for all my hats if anyone is interested. Most of them are for 2 refined, given they are not genuine or set hats. here is my backpack:

http://tf2b.com/?id=76561197994721033

if anyone is interested, feel free to add me on steam and please mention neowin :)

I don't suppose you'd consider trading the Team Spirit at all?

I can offer metal, items, paint and etc. Feel free to have a browse: http://tf2b.com/athernar

[sava700]

No, it wasn't. Get your facts straight.

The Festive Winter Crates were unlocked by Festive Winter Keys (Definition index 5049), Stocking Stuffer Keys (Definition index 5057) still exist and were given to all users as a one-off.

yeah I believe a few others gave you the REAL FACTS.... but really, arguing over this is, is a waste of time...moving on.

[Denis W. Veteran]

So my second cooler was... the Axtinguisher reskin.

Was hoping for the pyro's boot hat. Oh well.

[Athernar]

yeah I believe a few others gave you the REAL FACTS.... but really, arguing over this is, is a waste of time...moving on.

:rolleyes:

I also heard that it's a "real fact" that if you delete all your items before opening a crate you're guaranteed to get an unusual!!!1

You were wrong, it's really that simple. I can give you a printout of the item schema if you don't believe me.

[External HDD Veteran]

I don't suppose you'd consider trading the Team Spirit at all?

I can offer metal, items, paint and etc. Feel free to have a browse: http://tf2b.com/athernar

what is it worth? 1 ref. would be enough for me.

[Athernar]

what is it worth? 1 ref. would be enough for me.

Seems fair to me.

How do you wish to go about this? You can send me a trade request now if you so wish.