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I've been playing on Lotus servers for a very, very long time.. and they've never done that? :blink:

Either way, Lotus still have a terrible reputation alongside others such as Saigns and Nightteam.

I will be honest and admit I've never played on any of their servers; as I have my own server which has a good base of regulars.

... and got a Solemn Vow drop :D

Best melee weapon in the game, IMO ;)

Hopefully be playing again over the next few days, forgot how big the download is for TF2!

It didn't used to be this big; it's gotten significantly bigger with all the massive updates.

You can't use the browser if you don't have Steam installed. Steam is required. Additionally, you must have the standalone application to even install Team Fortress 2. Steam itself takes up a few megabytes, so I really don't understand why you're getting so butthurt about it.

Yeah really. Most games will be well over 2gb in size. Installing steam that takes up a few mb is practically irrelevant.

Just leave this topic, obviously you can not install the game without Steam and since you do not "prefer" that, then what is your purpose here? Just to complain..

Well I just installed the game without Steam, can use the ingame browser perfectly, and can connect to servers as well and play online :)

I just wanted to know if there was a ingame browser :blink: Theres not reason to get agressive or just "drop the subject"...

Well I just installed the game without Steam, can use the ingame browser perfectly, and can connect to servers as well and play online :)

I just wanted to know if there was a ingame browser :blink: Theres not reason to get agressive or just "drop the subject"...

Well your Backpack and items you get in drops will not be saved if you play this 'cracked' version apparently. But let's not get into that. Since you're not using Steam, you can't use the Steam Cloud, so it won't save items and achievements.

Well your Backpack and items you get in drops will not be saved if you play this 'cracked' version apparently. But let's not get into that. Since you're not using Steam, you can't use the Steam Cloud, so it won't save items and achievements.

It will also drop him from the server too after a while. Saw plenty of users drop with "steam ID not found" error from various servers, since the game went F2P.

It will also drop him from the server too after a while. Saw plenty of users drop with "steam ID not found" error from various servers, since the game went F2P.

This can also happen if a person times out, and it will show this error rather than the 'Connection lost' or 'Ping timeout' messages. But yes, this will happen too.

Well your Backpack and items you get in drops will not be saved if you play this 'cracked' version apparently. But let's not get into that. Since you're not using Steam, you can't use the Steam Cloud, so it won't save items and achievements.

Collectionable items and achievements arent really important to me. I just want to play.

Hope to see you around on the servers some time :)

Collectionable items and achievements arent really important to me. I just want to play.

Hope to see you around on the servers some time :)

You're just seeking attention, now.

Don't rise to it, people.

Collectionable items and achievements arent really important to me. I just want to play.

Hope to see you around on the servers some time :)

Secretly, deep down inside, you know you want this.

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What are some good CP servers? I try to get onto the No Heroes ones but they are full alot and I am not paying for a spot.

Honestly, just search for "cp_" and sort by players. The ones that are consistently full are usually the best. Or you can just use the "Start Playing" button to wind up on a Valve server.

What are some good CP servers? I try to get onto the No Heroes ones but they are full alot and I am not paying for a spot.

SourceOP Pro Rotation 67.228.59.144:27015

Drunken Brawl #2 216.52.143.41:27015

Reddit Reloaded 74.122.197.157:27015

These all play the good CP maps, and the occasional KOTH. Generally, a lot of good players are on these... just a warning. Any server with just CP maps in the rotation is going to attract the better players.

If you like a little more variety, I have found most of the Reddit servers to be pretty good (Midwest Chicago & Great Lakes in particular, if you live close - 216.52.143.59:27015 - 67.202.71.175:27015). Nearly always full and random crits disabled.

He's been doing it from the start. You cannot play TF2 without Steam running, it is required for basic authentication and communication with the masterserver.

It's akin to trying to play a game without an OS.

Thats not even comparable.

I consider Steam sorta (obviously not as agressive and not malware) of what Sony did to the music CDs with a rootkit.

Steam is great dont get me wrong. I just dont want it installed because Ill never use it.

Pretty sure Lotus do use premium; and fake bot counts. Either way they have a terrible reputation.

Pay the server owner money to get double crits, do more damage, run faster and so one.

I think you have the wrong server or group confused, I've been playing on their TF2 servers for a year now, and the only benefits I have ever seen a member get are here - http://www.lotusclan.com/donate/

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Steam is great dont get me wrong. I just dont want it installed because Ill never use it.

The technology that Steam is made of is what makes Valve games so good! The tight integration, the automatic and fast updates, the cloud saving etc.!

I feel you may believe it's just a game launcher. It's much more than that for true Steam titles.

The technology that Steam is made of is what makes Valve games so good! The tight integration, the automatic and fast updates, the cloud saving etc.!

I feel you may believe it's just a game launcher. It's much more than that for true Steam titles.

Don't feed him. He's just looking for attention now.

I think you have the wrong server or group confused, I've been playing on their TF2 servers for a year now, and the only benefits I have ever seen a member get are here - http://www.lotusclan.com/donate/

Nope. I can recall seeing a number of threads and posts complaining about Lotus across the TF2 community.

While I will conceed that they may not use premium, they are known for terrible childish admins and underhand tactics such as faking playercount and redirect servers.

Is there any kind soul that could provide me with a RIFT Well Spun Hat Claim Code please?

I think you need to get the Riftwalker achievement ("Kill an enemy within 5 seconds of you traveling through an Engineer's teleporter.") for that. Not sure how hard it is to get it.

I ain't a TF2 player so I thought I'd ask here to all the pros out here =P

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