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Last night I proved why moving sentries can be a bad idea. On dustbowl second stage, on blue I safely built a level 3 at my spawn, picked it up, and snuck behind enemy lines. Place it at red's spawn and proceeded to spawn camp for a good 5 minutes. My team even joined me eventually.

Was it a ****ty tactic? Of course. I mainly did it to prove a point and I'm not happy with the results of how easy it was to pull off....

i dunno if this is a glitch that only happens on offline practice but on dust bowl stage 1 i managed to build a sentry and level it up inside the blu spawn on the stairs near the top.

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That's fantastic. I thought they had stopped that so I stopped paying any attention to them a long time ago.

It was only that way for a few days after the sniper/spy update.

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Sentry Jumping - Brought to you by an Engy wielding the Wrangler, giving an engineer advanced movement tactics that allow him to get to high places with a single sentry (granted, a single lvl 3 sentry....not that hard considering you can carry them around with you now).

Also, setup is infinitely easier than before due to moving buildings. Drop it outside spawn - Hit cabinet and refill metal - Upgrade to next level or building - Carry it to front lines.

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i dunno if this is a glitch that only happens on offline practice but on dust bowl stage 1 i managed to build a sentry and level it up inside the blu spawn on the stairs near the top.

There is a very small area at the top of the stairs that the no build zone has missed. It has been around since the beginning beta releases. There is also another area at the far right exit by the sign.

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Well done Valve. Well done. (N)

I can't see one balanced game these days apart from SC2. Seriously, every developer is out of ideas and just throws in what he can find?

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Well done Valve. Well done. (N)

I can't see one balanced game these days apart from SC2. Seriously, every developer is out of ideas and just throws in what he can find?

Dude, this is the second day of the update, they test new things, and then if they seem overpowered nerf them correspondingly. At least they go and do that.

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Team Fortress 2

Fixed an exploit that allowed Engineers to build level 2/3 mini sentries. ---- cries.gif

Fixed a bug that allowed sapped buildings to be picked up by the Engineer

Fixed a bug where Wrangled level 3 sentryguns would still fire rockets when they were out of ammo.

Fixed a bug where players would go into reference poses when switching classes while carrying a building.

Fixed seeing the changeclass label in the spectator HUD when using cl_hud_minmode.

The amount of revenge crits a player can have at one time is now capped at 35.

The Wrangler no longer shows the shotgun's ammo count.

Engineers can no longer pick up buildings while stunned or in loser state.

Fixed Engineer shotgun and piston not using team skins for the Engineer's arms.

Fixed an issue where Wrangled sentrygun effects wouldn't be attached to the sentrygun.

The Gunslinger 3 hit combo now only increments the combo count when hitting enemy players.

Fixed a crash in the control point progress bar.

Fixed a server crash in the player death code, related to building carrying.

Fixing performance spikes that occur at round start, and after each point capture, when TFBots are present in the server.

Achievement fixes:

The "Rio Grind" achievement limit is now correctly set to 50.

Fixed a typo in Six-String Stinger achievement name.

Fixed a bug in the "Death Metal" achievement that caused it to rapidly complete itself.

Fixed getting the Six-String Stinger achievement without playing the guitar.

Fixed sentrygun detection code in "Best Little Slaughterhouse in Texas" and "Deputized".

Missed notes from yesterday's release:

New response rules and sounds added for some classes

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Civilian bug lives on... even after today's patch

Are you sure? As I am shown in the chat log on that video toward the end. I didn't get the update until I closed off the Neowin Server so I doubt the server was running the new patch nor were you at that time.

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I hate spies.

Not so much normal spies, but the ones that follow you around until you build something, then backstab you and sap what you're building. It's more annoying than plain backstabs.

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I hate spies.

Not so much normal spies, but the ones that follow you around until you build something, then backstab you and sap what you're building. It's more annoying than plain backstabs.

:shiftyninja:

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Are you sure? As I am shown in the chat log on that video toward the end. I didn't get the update until I closed off the Neowin Server so I doubt the server was running the new patch nor were you at that time.

Absolutely sure :) Just finished doing it now

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All these new weapons are pretty fun. I really like the Frontier Justice, as well as the Gunslinger (mini sentries are very useful at times, but certainly can't see that being the main melee for many). The Wrangler is obviously neat as well. Pretty nice update (Y)

Now get rid of the crappy new menu, Valve (N) :laugh:

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Just loaded this up and am really liking the Engineer changes, though if I was playing some other class I could see it being really grating due to the sheer number of engineers playing. Also spent a few hours playing Prop Hunt with friends, forgot how much fun that game mode was xD

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Just loaded this up and am really liking the Engineer changes, though if I was playing some other class I could see it being really grating due to the sheer number of engineers playing. Also spent a few hours playing Prop Hunt with friends, forgot how much fun that game mode was xD

Yeah, Thats the only problem at the moment, because of the update everyone is playing the updated class to get achievements and what not. Therefore being anything other than heavy + medic or demoman is impossible xD

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Yeah, Thats the only problem at the moment, because of the update everyone is playing the updated class to get achievements and what not. Therefore being anything other than heavy + medic or demoman is impossible xD

yeah it seems the spies are also having good hunting too.

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yeah it seems the spies are also having good hunting too.

Yeah, was on goldrush yesterday, Built sentry outside the base so i could upgrade and move it and every other guy was a spy >.<

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yeah it seems the spies are also having good hunting too.

I'm having an absolute field day as Soldier vs Engineer. So each to rack up points and make it hell for them :p

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I'm having an absolute field day as Soldier vs Engineer. So each to rack up points and make it hell for them :p

I have to agree. On the day it came out, I had like 18 destructions in a single life. Some many sentries too kill, so little time.

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Some payload maps are impossible at the moment with 8 sentries firing 200 rounds at you the moment you inch in to view.

Yeah they are. Hopefully it'll die down a bit soon. The servers I've been on so far do have class limits, but you can use up server points to buy class immunity, so there's still 4-5 engi's on each team.

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Things Valve claims they fixed, but not really:

Civilian Engie (see my video above)

Mini level 2/3 sentries. They are still quite possible, here's how...

1. Open up PDA and select sentry, but don't build yet

2. Switch load out to Gunslinger, touch supply cabinet

3. Build, Upgrade to level 3

4. Pick it up, and place where you would like

5. ???

6. PROFIT!

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Things Valve claims they fixed, but not really:

Civilian Engie (see my video above)

Mini level 2/3 sentries. They are still quite possible, here's how...

1. Open up PDA and select sentry, but don't build yet

2. Switch load out to Gunslinger, touch supply cabinet

3. Build, Upgrade to level 3

4. Pick it up, and place where you would like

5. ???

6. PROFIT!

is the gunslinger a random drop or you have to do something to get it?

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