Official Microsoft E3 Discussion Thread

[PL_ Veteran]

Guess I officially have no reason to get a PS3, with Lips and FFXIII coming to 360.

[Novaoblivion]

I am really surprised about the FF 13 thing although I had a feeling when the Square president came up on stage. I need to see that trailer in HD though!

[Sigurd]

Am really stoked about FFXIII it was the only reason i was thinking about getting a PS3, now i wont have to.

[popisdead uk]

Guess I officially have no reason to get a PS3, with Lips and FFXIII coming to 360.

Not if you only wanted FFXIII and Singstar ;)

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

My take on this all...

Sony got some major, major work to do now.

I think Sony needs to just completely drop any casual attempts, and really be the Hardcore platform. That might be there only hope.

And yes, I realize I am saying this before Sony even gets a chance to speak, but what are they going to talk about, their online service that they still have not released yet??

Seriously, MS is basically releasing something just as if not more effective than Home, with the fact you can do the whole Primetime aspect, apparantly before Home even comes out if they get it out this fall, and that is just a pretty huge blow. Like it or not, it is.

Basically, Sony needs to drop any casual attempts and really be the platform for the hardcore gamer, they are never going to catch up to MS or Nintendo. Perhaps they may, and I will eat these words, but it seriously is not looking good for them now on the casual front.

And I personally could care less about the casual side of things, that is not me, but it appears the factor in this generation did not come down to how powerful, etc. etc., it may have come down to how accessible.

I HOPE Sony makes me eat my words and blows me away with something amazing, but as of now, I am not holding my breath.

[CY:G]

It makes so much sense, im sure they saw market figures for GTA 4, Devil May Cry 4, Call Of Duty 4, etc. I dont have number on me but im sure as hell that they sold more copies on 360, watch Metal Gear Solid 4 follow...

[PL_ Veteran]

Basically, Sony needs to drop any casual attempts and really be the platform for the hardcore gamer, they are never going to catch up to MS or Nintendo

Bold words right there. MS hasn't even released half of it's casual strategy. And let's not forget Sony used to be the kings of casual.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Larry, I think you are giving this update a little to much credit saying it's just as effective as Home :/ All it is, is effectively avatars on a 3D/2D morphed Dashboard.

Although I do agree, more hardcore tomorrow Sony, and release Home this fall guaranteed. Bioshock PS3 coverart has the Home logo which has spurted rumours of a september/october release of Home.

[strotee]

This is a huge blow (coming from a Sony fan). It makes me wonder that Sony didn't at least see this coming or have something else in line, wait & see.

Apparently SquareEnix didn't get the memo regarding the Japanese market. After almost 3 years, the 360 has sold what, roughly 800,000 systems? Do they plan on giving away the 360 with this game? :laugh:

[morficus]

Bold words right there. MS hasn't even released half of it's casual strategy. And let's not forget Sony used to be the kings of casual.

indeed

I wonder if they'll even mention the 'new controller' rumor that's been floating around for a while.

[magik]

My take on this all...

Sony got some major, major work to do now.

I think Sony needs to just completely drop any casual attempts, and really be the Hardcore platform. That might be there only hope.

And yes, I realize I am saying this before Sony even gets a chance to speak, but what are they going to talk about, their online service that they still have not released yet??

Seriously, MS is basically releasing something just as if not more effective than Home, with the fact you can do the whole Primetime aspect, apparantly before Home even comes out if they get it out this fall, and that is just a pretty huge blow. Like it or not, it is.

Basically, Sony needs to drop any casual attempts and really be the platform for the hardcore gamer, they are never going to catch up to MS or Nintendo. Perhaps they may, and I will eat these words, but it seriously is not looking good for them now on the casual front.

And I personally could care less about the casual side of things, that is not me, but it appears the factor in this generation did not come down to how powerful, etc. etc., it may have come down to how accessible.

I HOPE Sony makes me eat my words and blows me away with something amazing, but as of now, I am not holding my breath.

+1 (Y)

[Brad.]

+1 (Y)

+2

Well said DL.

[CY:G]

This is a huge blow (coming from a Sony fan). It makes me wonder that Sony didn't at least see this coming or have something else in line, wait & see.

Apparently SquareEnix didn't get the memo regarding the Japanese market. After almost 3 years, the 360 has sold what, roughly 800,000 systems? Do they plan on giving away the 360 with this game? :laugh:

Im sure they want to sell this game to the largest market possible, that means selling it like salmon sushi on the PS3 in Japan and selling it like hotcakes on the 360 here in America...

[PiracyX]

My take on this all...

Sony got some major, major work to do now.

I think Sony needs to just completely drop any casual attempts, and really be the Hardcore platform. That might be there only hope.

And yes, I realize I am saying this before Sony even gets a chance to speak, but what are they going to talk about, their online service that they still have not released yet??

Seriously, MS is basically releasing something just as if not more effective than Home, with the fact you can do the whole Primetime aspect, apparantly before Home even comes out if they get it out this fall, and that is just a pretty huge blow. Like it or not, it is.

Basically, Sony needs to drop any casual attempts and really be the platform for the hardcore gamer, they are never going to catch up to MS or Nintendo

I agree DL. Sony have been living two years behind Microsoft. Everyone was happy when Firmware v2.40 finally arrived and Sony touted it as something new.......but Microsoft had those features in 2005 when the XBOX360 launched :rolleyes:

Sony have to come up with the goods tomorrow or else they will have nothing. It serves them right for promoting the PS3 as a Blu-ray player first and gaming machine second then suddenly rememeber they need games for it.

I think there will be alot of angry PS3 fans about that FXIII announcement.

[morficus]

Im sure they want to sell this game to the largest market possible, that means selling it like salmon sushi on the PS3 in Japan and selling it like hotcakes on the 360 here in America...

yeah... SquareEnix is going to make some crazy money by doing this - haha

[Smigit]

Basically, Sony needs to drop any casual attempts and really be the platform for the hardcore gamer

It's a bit hard when they don't have the exclusives to do it and just lost one of their three biggest exclusives today (I see the Big three as Final Fantasy, Grand Turismo and MGS...you could argue GOW in there too).

Anyway MS hasn't released these casual titles yet and of those many will find their way onto the PS3 or have equivalents. I think if Sony is to succeed they can't narrow their scope that early or it will be harder to push titles. I mean it's not like MS hasn't got hardcore games.

I realise MS didn't announce alot for the hardcore gamer but they didn't have to. All those titles are already known besides the Bungee one and they have that field pretty much catered for for at least the next 6 - 12 months. Delaying the Bungee announcement probably isn't a bad idea as it strengtherns the blow which is Final Fantasy plus come a day or so will serve as somewhat of a distraction to whatever Sony announces.

I dont think hardcore gamers should be disappointed. Sure nothing much new was there besides FF but we're so well catered for this year that it hardly matters and getting more casual gamers will strengthen the consoles future in a huge way. Hell it's cheaper than a Wii now in Australia so they definitely are on the attack of the Wii and after today the PS3 seems somewhat cornered too.

[Vortex566]

I am still in shock! Now all I need to be told is KH3 for the Wii then I will just cry!

[magik]

Nothing about the 60GB HDD officially?

[BajiRav]

Nothing about the 60GB HDD officially?

they put out a press release yesterday?

[TJenkins]

I want this dashboard update now. All the other stuff I really couldn't care less about.

[Kupo-Cheer]

they put out a press release yesterday?

I think they should have at least glazed over the fact at the end of their press conference, though. Seems to me like any announcements to the 360 console should have been there.

[BajiRav]

Goodness :o

?Play from hard drive. >Copy your games from the game disc and play directly from the hard drive. Not only will the drive not spin, but load times are quicker, as well. Of course, you will still need the disc in the tray to prove you own the game.

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[morficus]

I am still in shock! Now all I need to be told is KH3 for the Wii then I will just cry!

I would just die... along with a long list of other Sony fans

[+Jester124 Subscriber²]

I'm not to big on the dashboard update. I know the one now has it querks, but at least I am acustomed to them. Maybe the new one will grow on me. who knows

[what]

Goodness :o

Where did you get that from?

EDIT: found it