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BS. With more efficient usage of memory it should run better, unless it's designed to run worse.

I just made a new slogan for M$:

Your money, our passion. :D

Untrue. There's no point in optimizing the OS for low memory usage when the smallest amount of RAM you can get in a new PC these days is like 1 gig.

Untrue. There's no point in optimizing the OS for low memory usage when the smallest amount of RAM you can get in a new PC these days is like 1 gig.

do you REALLY think that?

with an OS that's slim you can do more in app space instead of wasting RAM on the OS space.

what's better: an OS that runs fine and took one year to build but takes up 95% of your RAM or an OS which took two years to build and takes up less than 50% of your RAM?

what good is your RAM if the OS has taken it away from the apps?

i find it funny how people sometimes forget that OSes are built to run apps ON TOP of them, so their objective should be to be as slim and have a footprint which is as small as possible.

And then you have to remember that the OS actually controls all of the RAM in your system and hands it out to applications when they request some and take it away from other apps when it needs some (i.e. it manages the resource)

At the moment Task Manager says I have 17MB of physical memory free (out of 2GB) since it's caching a lot of stuff (1GB+) in memory (memory cache > hard drive cache)

I wonder what they exactly showed them? Surely they changed the UI elements at least a little, in order to make it look a tiny bit different from Vista? The color scheme, at least?

We are talking about the average consumer here. They could of showed them windows 95 and called it vista and they would have believed it. So I'm assuming they showed vista as vista.

And then you have to remember that the OS actually controls all of the RAM in your system and hands it out to applications when they request some and take it away from other apps when it needs some (i.e. it manages the resource)

At the moment Task Manager says I have 17MB of physical memory free (out of 2GB) since it's caching a lot of stuff (1GB+) in memory (memory cache > hard drive cache)

... and would you believe that despite all this caching, earlier this month I saw for the first time in using computers with 2 GB of RAM this dialog: 'Your system is running out of memory, please close some applications. The following applications are taking up too much memory: hl2 :pinch:"

This was a one time occurrence and I only had Messenger, Steam, and possibly a few background tools open besides TF2.

Maybe Vista 64-bit uses more RAM than 32-bit?

New Coke anyone?

It performed very, very well in taste tests, but flopped because taste tests are not indicative of the full experience of drinking a soda. People who were interviewed after drinking a full one said they thought they liked it but by the end of the can they felt it was too sweet.

Same thing. I thought I liked Vista too, but this test isn't indicative of anything. Simply fiddling around for a little while in an OS and not having to use all it's features and experience all it's foibles isn't very interesting. What about driver installation, installing new hardware, installing new programs, experiencing a mock-hijack attempt and so on?

... and would you believe that despite all this caching, earlier this month I saw for the first time in using computers with 2 GB of RAM this dialog: 'Your system is running out of memory, please close some applications. The following applications are taking up too much memory: hl2 :pinch:"

This was a one time occurrence and I only had Messenger, Steam, and possibly a few background tools open besides TF2.

Maybe Vista 64-bit uses more RAM than 32-bit?

There used to be a virtual memory bug in Vista for d3d games. However, it was fixed a long time ago in a Performance and Reliability update.

I've played all of HL2 and never seen that problem.

... and would you believe that despite all this caching, earlier this month I saw for the first time in using computers with 2 GB of RAM this dialog: 'Your system is running out of memory, please close some applications. The following applications are taking up too much memory: hl2 :pinch:"

This was a one time occurrence and I only had Messenger, Steam, and possibly a few background tools open besides TF2.

Maybe Vista 64-bit uses more RAM than 32-bit?

I got that exact same error.

In my case something had disabled the page file and everything was forced to run in memory (not good)

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