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USA got robbed of another medal in gymnastics. The mens high bar routine done by the American was clearly better then the Chinese. In fact, after they put up the scores the CHINESE crowd actually booed the judges for not giving him a better score than their countrymen. I still think there is definitely some judging bias to the host nation.

yep hat happen 3 times in this game with the US, with Horton last night, Nastia on uneven bars and Alicia Sacramone should have won bronze on vault. The Chinese landed on her knees and got bronze. :wacko:

Bolt = beast :o

China's baseball team should be kicked out of the olympics for what they did today, thats a ****ing disgrace.

what were those guys up to? missed on it entirely.

but yeah some of the judging seems to be straight from The Onion-land, but that's the case with the Olympics whenever there's a big host involved.

what were those guys up to? missed on it entirely.

but yeah some of the judging seems to be straight from The Onion-land, but that's the case with the Olympics whenever there's a big host involved.

well apparently baseball is new to china or something, because twice a runner was coming home and china tried to make a play at the plate. Normally, a catcher would stand in a position to either block a slide or tag the runner. Twice, when china tried to make a play at home the catcher stood in FRONT of the plate on the 3rd baseline. Now anyone who has seen baseball knows what happened to him, this is not something unique. He got ran the **** over, both times, and he had no one to blame but himself. The next inning, coincidentally, an American batter gets a nice fastball to the side of the head.

Who's watching the womens volleyball...come on own up :shifty:

been watching.... lol

girls in tight short shorts will get my tv ratings. lol

this olympics has some real babes in there. check out this girl from Paraguay competing in javelin throwing. :woot:

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IOC: Despite questions, NO proof

http://www.nbcolympics.com/gymnastics/news...nastics+cheated

BEIJING (AP) - Despite persistent questions about the ages of several members of the Chinese women's gymnastics team that won the gold medal, the International Olympic Committee said Friday there is still no proof anyone cheated and believes the controversy will be "put to rest."

China has again given the governing body of gymnastics documents that show its athletes are eligible, and coach Lu Shanzhen said the girls' families are "indignant" that the issue won't go away.

"It's not just me. The parents of our athletes are all very indignant," Lu said in an interview with The Associated Press. "They have faced groundless suspicion. Why aren't they believed? Why are their children suspected? Their parents are very angry."

The IOC asked the International Gymnastics Federation to investigate "what have been a number of questions and apparent discrepancies," spokeswoman Giselle Davies said. The FIG has said repeatedly that a passport is the "accepted proof of a gymnast's eligibility," and that China's gymnasts have presented ones that show they are age eligible. The IOC also checked the girls' passports and deemed them valid before the games began.

Lu said the Chinese gave the FIG documents Thursday evening that included the current and former passport, ID card and family residence permit for double gold medalist He Kexin. Lu said the documents all say she was born in 1992, which makes her eligible to compete. Gymnasts must turn 16 at some point during the Olympic year in order to be eligible.

"We believe the matter will be put to rest and there's no question ... on the eligibility," Davies said. "The information we have received seems satisfactory in terms of the correct documentation - including birth certificates."

If the federation had found evidence that the gymnasts were underage, it could have affected four of China's medals. In addition to the team gold and He's gold on bars, Yang Yilin won bronze medals in the all-around and uneven bars. Media reports and online documents have suggested that He, Yang and a third team member, Jiang Yuyuan, might be as young as 14.

"Surely it's not possible that these documents are still not sufficient proof of her birthdate?" Lu asked. "The passports were issued by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. The identity card was issued by China's Ministry of Public Security. If these valid documents are not enough to clarify this problem, then what will you believe?

"The Chinese government and the Chinese athletes must be respected," he added.

Andre Gueisbuhler, secretary general of the FIG, said the federation would release a statement later Friday.

"For the time being, there is nothing I can add," Gueisbuhler said.

Earlier this month, the AP found registration lists previously posted on the Web site of the General Administration of Sport of China that showed both He and Yang were too young to compete. He was born Jan. 1, 1994, according to the 2005, 2006 and 2007 registration lists. Yang was born Aug. 26, 1993, according to the 2004, 2005 and 2006 registration lists. In the 2007 registration list, however, her birthday has changed to Aug. 26, 1992.

"If you trust every Web site but not a government ... There are so many Web sites, so much hearsay," Lu said. "These are not official. It is possible that all news on the Internet is accurate?"

China's team did look noticeably younger than the Americans, who finished with the silver medal in the team competition. The Americans, though, had two 20-year-olds on their team, and all-around gold medalist Nastia Liukin turns 19 this fall.

"At this competition, the Japanese gymnasts were just as small as the Chinese," the coach said. "Chinese competitors have for years all been small. It is not just this time. It is a question of race. European and American athletes are all powerful, very robust. But Chinese athletes cannot be like that. They are by nature that small."

Although the IOC didn't detail what prompted it to ask the FIG to look into the matter again, after competition had already ended, the U.S. Olympic Committee said it sent a letter to both organizations Friday asking them to resolve the matter.

"We certainly believe that it's important for the IOC and the international federation to review the issue and hopefully lay it to rest because the questions surrounding the age of some of the athletes have been out there for quite a while and it's unfair to them and unfair to the other athletes to continue to linger," USOC chief executive Jim Scherr said.

"So we have sent a letter to the IOC and to the international federation asking them to review the matter and see if they can't resolve it for the good of the competition, the integrity of the competition and the good of all the athletes."

The Chinese women won six medals, including the team gold and He's gold on uneven bars. Media reports include a Nov. 3, 2007 story by the Chinese government's news agency, Xinhua, that suggest He is only 14.

"We played fair at this Olympic Games," Liukin's father and coach, Valeri, said after they arrived back in the United States. "... If somebody cheated, shame on them."

Added Steve Penny, president of USA Gymnastics: "Fair play is an important aspect of the Olympic movement, and the IOC is responsible for ensuring that everybody is playing by the rules. This issue needs to be resolved, and it needs to be behind us. Once the IOC feels it has done everything in its power to resolve it, everyone is going to have to accept that at some level."

Age falsification has been a problem in gymnastics since the 1980s after the minimum age was raised from 14 to 15 to protect young athletes from serious injuries. The minimum age was raised to its current 16 in 1997. Younger gymnasts are considered to have an advantage because they are more flexible, and are likely to have an easier time doing the tough skills the sport requires. They also aren't as likely to have a history of injuries or fear of failure.

North Korea was barred from the 1993 world championships after FIG officials discovered Kim Gwang Suk, the gold medalist on uneven bars in 1991, was listed as 15 for three years in a row. Romania admitted in 2002 that several gymnasts' ages had been falsified, including Olympic medalists Gina Gogean and Alexandra Marinescu.

Even China's own Yang Yun, a double bronze medalist in Sydney, said during an interview aired on state broadcaster China Central Television that she was 14 in 2000.

"There have been questions that have been on the table and discrepancies that have been alluded to by certain parties," Davies said. "The IOC is simply wanting to do its due diligence to 100 percent clarify the situation and put this to rest."

So, there you go, the underage controversy HAS been investigated for the Final time Today, but still NO proof at all, and will be "put to rest" for good!

These girls are PROVEN 16 years old according to EVERY Official Chinese document (Passport, Birth Certificate, etc) on them. Whether they have been forged or not, you would probably not going to find out any time SOON, if at all. IF they are forged, which only Chinese gov't knows for sure now... If the government is covering it up, it's like finding out about UFO/Area 51/Roswell.

She was clearly better.

I thought she took it quite well for a gold medal to practically be stolen away from her, and in my mind it was unjust.

I mean, judges know more than you guys or me. You think she is clearly better, not necessarily the experts - who are these judges.

But yea it WAS very close. I just find it absurd they can't give BOTH Gold since it was a tie. The Tie-breaker is absolutely very very POOR precedure. The Chinese did good too, so was Nastia... both deserved Gold..

You putting down Chinese, saying Nastia is clearly better just isn't fair either. Chinese's performances was really good too. I saw, and I don't know who is better. I believe the judges have the say! It's their expertise and should be respected!

Gymnastics is a subjective sport, not one like Tie record in NFL or whatever, you know? (Team with the better record/stat is better) Stupid rule like that need to be get rid off and just give both people gold for a tie!

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IOC: Despite questions, NO proof

http://www.nbcolympics.com/gymnastics/news...nastics+cheated

So, there you go, the underage controversy HAS been investigated for the Final time Today, but still NO proof at all, and will be "put to rest" for good!

These girls are PROVEN 16 years old according to EVERY Official Chinese document (Passport, Birth Certificate, etc) on them. Whether they have been forged or not, you would probably not going to find out any time SOON, if at all. IF they are forged, which only Chinese gov't knows for sure now... If the government is covering it up, it's like finding out about UFO/Area 51/Roswell.

Yes because it is so hard for a communist government to change the papers of its citizens. They won't do anything about this until the Beijing games are over....

Someone explain the issue of the Chinese gymnast's age. Is it mandatory to be 16 to compete? Because Romania's Gabriela Dragoi is clearly 15 with a birthday of 8/28/1992. Why is this not an issue?
You have to turn 16 in the same year as the games.

Is that just for gymnastics? I mean, the men's 10m platform dive has a 14-year old competitor from the UK...

I think its just Gymnastics because over here in the UK we have been making a big fuss over the 14 year old and we keep saying he's 14 so if that wasn't legal we would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

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