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When Colleen was put on the raft and was set to burn by her husband, everyone was wearing white robes. Any significance to Egyptians customs for the burial of the dead?

Egyptians mummified their dead.

I'm sure you learned that in grade school, no?

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Didn't Egyptians only mummify important people? This is totally off the top of my head though.

Yes and no. Earlier in their history, it was only the rich that had it done, but later on it was everyone.

Wikipedia has a section about funerary boats, but nothing about burning them or wearing white, more seems like using them as transport for the body.

That ceremony could have been an amalgam of different cultures.

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Egyptians mummified their dead.

I'm sure you learned that in grade school, no?

Obviously. That event had to have been of some significance for the Others and with the recent revelation of Egyptians stuff (statue mostly), one can only assume that played a role in it too.

The Hieroglyphs were always a dead giveaway, however, the statue was always a mystery. I always assumed it was some Buddha statue since Widmore has a painting of one with polar bears. (link) So, now that we know its basically related to Egyptian mythology, all we can do now is try to find much evidence from past episodes to connect it.

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That along with the fact that Taweret is the goddess who is the "deity of protection in pregnancy and childbirth" make me think we're right about this.

Think about it. They made a big deal about Amy having her baby and it living. The statue is there.

Years later the statue is gone and now they can't have children on the island anymore.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

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That along with the fact that Taweret is the goddess who is the "deity of protection in pregnancy and childbirth" make me think we're right about this.

Think about it. They made a big deal about Amy having her baby and it living. The statue is there.

Years later the statue is gone and now they can't have children on the island anymore.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

Well we don't know that the statue is up in the 70s, and very likely that it isn't. They saw the statue and then there was another flash.

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So another theory we were talking about at work:

Locke found Horus building the cabin (maybe its cause I have been dead for 12 years part). Horus says he is building it for his family.

Jacob now lives in cabin. Jacob could be the child born in the episode? Its gotta be someone signifigant.

Also, Richard seems the unquestioned leader in the 50's with the bomb, and the 70's when he come to the barracks. Yet in the 2000's he delegates his leadership. What could be the reason?

Aww shoot, but Locke mentions Jacob in the 50's to Richard and Richard knows who he is talking about. Shoots that theory.

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Well we don't know that the statue is up in the 70s, and very likely that it isn't. They saw the statue and then there was another flash.

While true, we can't be 100% sure of that can we? Have we seen the statue any other time other than 2004? I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but I guess I'm just thinking a little more outside the box.

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So another theory we were talking about at work:

Locke found Horus building the cabin (maybe its cause I have been dead for 12 years part). Horus says he is building it for his family.

Jacob now lives in cabin. Jacob could be the child born in the episode? Its gotta be someone signifigant.

Also, Richard seems the unquestioned leader in the 50's with the bomb, and the 70's when he come to the barracks. Yet in the 2000's he delegates his leadership. What could be the reason?

Aww shoot, but Locke mentions Jacob in the 50's to Richard and Richard knows who he is talking about. Shoots that theory.

We don't know that Richard is necessarily the leader because when Locke mentioned that he was their new leader, appointed by Jacob, Richard mentioned that the process starts at an early age. From what we've seen, I think Richard is more of a guide for the leader rather than the leader.... and I just read your last sentence and am now wasting bytes :D

While true, we can't be 100% sure of that can we? Have we seen the statue any other time other than 2004? I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but I guess I'm just thinking a little more outside the box.

Only known year we've seen it was 2004. The full statue was an unknown time, likely assumption is the past, but there could be a correlation. Ben was very insistent that Juliet find out why women on the island were dying during child birth and even kept her there against her will, while, if memory serves me correctly, other Others were ready to move on from that "project" (for lack of a better word). I think Tom specifically made a comment about it, but I could be wrong.

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That along with the fact that Taweret is the goddess who is the "deity of protection in pregnancy and childbirth" make me think we're right about this.

Think about it. They made a big deal about Amy having her baby and it living. The statue is there.

Years later the statue is gone and now they can't have children on the island anymore.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

We don't know if the island is "entirely" there in the 70s, do we ? Locke turned the wheel after they saw the statue, and oops, they (for some stupid reason :p) they didn't check if the damn statue was still there :D I hate it when they do that.

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Only known year we've seen it was 2004. The full statue was an unknown time, likely assumption is the past, but there could be a correlation. Ben was very insistent that Juliet find out why women on the island were dying during child birth and even kept her there against her will, while, if memory serves me correctly, other Others were ready to move on from that "project" (for lack of a better word). I think Tom specifically made a comment about it, but I could be wrong.

Alpert made the comment that Ben was wasting our time with novelties like fertility problems.

So, two likely candidates for the statue is either Anubis or Taweret. Both have a good amount of reasoning behind them... We just need more clues. :/

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That along with the fact that Taweret is the goddess who is the "deity of protection in pregnancy and childbirth" make me think we're right about this.

Think about it. They made a big deal about Amy having her baby and it living. The statue is there.

Years later the statue is gone and now they can't have children on the island anymore.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

The statue wasn't there then. There was a flash between the two periods.

We don't know if the island is "entirely" there in the 70s, do we ? Locke turned the wheel after they saw the statue, and oops, they (for some stupid reason :p) they didn't check if the damn statue was still there :D I hate it when they do that.

They would have mentioned it again if it was there.

The fertility problems on the island didn't start until after Alex was born, and the statue wasn't there in that period. I'm sure we'd have seen a mention since they were running all over the island for quite a while. Well actually we don't know that for sure, it could be that Dharma just can't have kids for whatever reason.

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Something I haven't seen discussed, is what causes the demise of the statue? One candidate is the H bomb, although I doubt Richard would have tried moving it all the way to the statue? Maybe "The incident" is statue related? Must be something big, because it's a big statue!

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The fertility problems on the island didn't start until after Alex was born...

And you know this how? Alex wasn't conceived on the island, so she was safe all along.

Remember Juliet telling Sun that it is women who conceive on the island that die during their 2nd trimester.

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At this point it could be a number of reasons as to why. Russo was impregnated off the island, as was Claire, but they were able to have their babies on the island. Sun became pregnant on the island, but had her baby off the island, so it the whole fertility problem has to do with the period of time (after a certain point), being impregnated on the island and reaching the 2nd trimester while on the island. Charlotte was born on the island, and so was Amy's baby, so whatever problem is causing the fertility issues is probably caused by the incident, something Dharma did or something Ben did. That's my guess anyways.

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At this point it could be a number of reasons as to why. Russo was impregnated off the island, as was Claire, but they were able to have their babies on the island. Sun became pregnant on the island, but had her baby off the island, so it the whole fertility problem has to do with the period of time (after a certain point), being impregnated on the island and having the baby on the island. Charlotte was born on the island, and so was Amy's baby, so whatever problem is causing the fertility issues is probably caused by the incident, something Dharma did or something Ben did. That's my guess anyways.

It being something Ben did would explain why he's so eager to find a fix for it.

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Right, I already explained I knew that. But we don't know when the statue goes byebye though: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...amp;p=590671248

We have to assume that its not there, since there are no other mentions of it by anyone. It wasn't shown in any other time period, etc.

We know the survivors went to at least one time period before the 70s, and they didn't mention the statue. It wasn't there in 1954.

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We have to assume that its not there, since there are no other mentions of it by anyone. It wasn't shown in any other time period, etc.

It has only been shown in two time periods and hasn't been mentioned by anyone period and the foot was still there in 2004. Plus, we don't know when it was that we saw the full statue either.

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