Stargate Universe (Season 1)

[Rappy Veteran]

I can seriously see Young getting killed or at least more injured then he is by the end of Season 1

[kiwi89]

I really hope this picks up a bit, there isn't enough action imo lol.

But I'm sure it will get there.

I really think Rush knew what was going to happen. I mean... he took his name off the list, he tried a little to convince Young to put Greer onto the shuttle and his reaction at the end.

[Zarpraz]

First 3 episodes were pretty boring, waiting for something to happen but nothing. Ep 4 was better but hope they run in to baddies sometime soon or it's going to become a bore.

[zagor]

From the season episode guide, it seems nothing on the grand scheme of things will happen this season. Seems everything will revolve around the faith of the crew and their survival.

[zagor]

I agree...He must have at least guessed why the ship were headed to the sun. He is the lead scientist in the team. He naturally would have asked himself how the hell the ship were still able to travel after such a long time after its release. There is just no way to store that much energy. So, the ship should have been fueling from time to time. Question is where is the ship headed to? It can't be just wandering aimlessly.

[yxz]

From the season episode guide, it seems nothing on the grand scheme of things will happen this season. Seems everything will revolve around the faith of the crew and their survival.

But on the other hand, it's going to be a little bit more -- I don't want to use the word "space opera," but it is more relationship-based, it is more arc-driven, it's less monster- or situation-of-the-week. We're focusing less on -- in fact, we're not even focusing at all on going to the planets and meeting the humanoid, English-speaking aliens.

http://scifi.about.com/od/stargateatlantis..._mallozzi_3.htm

gah :|

[Rob2687]

Meh... Atlantis and the later seasons of SG-1 wrecked my faith in their ability to write any decent stories based on that old meet a humanoid / monster of the week formula.

They are smart to try something different this time around.

[macrosslover]

Well the episode was exceptionally predictable. I was hoping they'd ditch the shuttle on the planet, but then that would have been as cliche as the last second landing.

and wow that must be the smallest star system in the universes.... as Evidenced by the way off scale Star they flew over, wich also changed scale later on as they flew into it... (artists needs to learn to use proper scale and proper camera FOV's on their scenes so scales don't look all messed up). Then the fact they could see the shuttle from the observation window... seriously, even planets drop out of sight really quick when you're n space, never mind shuttles. and the shuttle didn't manage to catch up to the ship BUT it had enough time to return to the planet, slingshot around it and get back with enough speed to land... seriously.. are they taking us for idiots ?

It's a better episode than last, but they still have a long way to go.

and speaking of scale. the ship is supposed to be huge, almost atlantis huge. YEt the shuttle that took off from it, was in the shot and scale they used 1/10th the size of the ship, which would make it huge, like Earth battleship huge (like the Hammond) and would definately fit more than 20 people, more like everyone and their extended families.

The CGI aren't really up to par with atlantis at all, and with all these mistakes they do with scales and using badly scaled models combined with bad camera FOV's, instead of setting up a bigger scene with proper scales and FOV (more work but looks right) makes it seem like they just fired the whole FX crew from Atlantis and hired a brand new crew, all of which happen to be interns.

I don't know what you mean by the scale of the star? Stars do come in different sizes of course, but I don't think they could properly show what the Destiny had to do if they truly had it look like a microdot next to the star. I'd like to say everybody who watches the show is smart enough to know a star is bigger than that.

for the shuttle, I believe it never turned around, so it wasn't returning to the planet but was still heading to the planet. When he was trying to punch in the course correction the computer was telling him he wouldn't intercept the Destiny, but technically they were still on course towards the planet not moving away from it. I also don't remember them saying the Ship was Atlantis sized. I always assumed it was the size of the Atlantean battleships just slightly bigger.

As for the CGI sucking, I haven't noticed to much but I could believe it. I can see a scenario where they want to use cheaper effects and sets to make money, because at the end of the day it's all about profit for the company.

[bolerodan]

I liked the episode. I also feel like im the only one who likes Young.

[temple_treefrog]

I liked the episode. I also feel like im the only one who likes Young.

:yes: I think Young's leadership is questionable.

[Xero]

You are :) Young sucks, however, Greer is starting to loosen up. He was likeable in the last episode especially when he smoked that guy in the face.

[PurePhoenix]

Yea. Especially the segment where greer is talking to Akino, makes you realise he really is a hardcore soldier to the bone.

He might have a massive attitude problem, but he knows his stuff - maybe. We'll see later on if he does.

There aren't any characters that i dislike or or think need to be developed further as of yet;

Young is just doing a job - while injured mind you - you can't really expect too much of him right now

Rush does have severe personality faults granted, but from the looks of things he is actually looking out for the other members.

Elliot(?) / Math Boy is if anything, the character i think that's the least developed so far. It's not enough to ruin the character, but he basically has no balls, he doesn't get scared and yet isn't a hardass. Wtf?

EDIT: WTF is with the 15 members / 1 trip bs with the shuttle?

It's ancient technology for gods' sake! It's powered by a ZPM! It can easily do 100,000 trips before running out of juice.

They could have dropped the WHOLE population onto the planet if they wanted to.

Am i the only one that picked this uP?

[macrosslover]

they don't have zpm's

[hdood]

EDIT: WTF is with the 15 members / 1 trip bs with the shuttle?

It's ancient technology for gods' sake! It's powered by a ZPM! It can easily do 100,000 trips before running out of juice.

They could have dropped the WHOLE population onto the planet if they wanted to.

Am i the only one that picked this uP?

The premise was that there wasn't enough time to make more than one trip, and since the shuttle presumably doesn't have unlimited engine power, it couldn't lift more than 15 people and a mountain of supplies regardless of the capacity of its power source (and I don't remember anything about ZPMs anyway, do you recharge those by flying through the sun?)

[PurePhoenix]

ZPMs are the core of atlantean technology, there should be nothing that is not directly or indirectly powered by a ZPM.

If it was a time constraint, they wouldn't have waited a few hours to get data from the 3 planets, they would have scouted it directly in the shuttle.

It all smacks too much of the conception that the shuttle wouldn't survive entry a 2nd time, much like our existing technology.

And that ticks me off because we know for a fact even the Goa'ulds' crappy technology can do multiple planetary re-entries with very little - or NO damage.

[ToneKnee]

ZPMs are the core of atlantean technology, there should be nothing that is not directly or indirectly powered by a ZPM.

If it was a time constraint, they wouldn't have waited a few hours to get data from the 3 planets, they would have scouted it directly in the shuttle.

It all smacks too much of the conception that the shuttle wouldn't survive entry a 2nd time, much like our existing technology.

And that ticks me off because we know for a fact even the Goa'ulds' crappy technology can do multiple planetary re-entries with very little - or NO damage.

The ship is seriously old, probably designed way before the Goa'ulds came about.

[medicnick83]

Ok, times are a changing... the latest episode (5 I think) was really good, exciting!!

[Snafu]

Young is a truly dumb and irritating leader. He has not been able to establish a working relationship with the only person who really understands ancient technology. He has not been able to form teams and he has not been able to prioritize. I am just curious how the rest of the story will unfold.

I don't really have a problem with Young, he wasn't suppose to lead the mission to Destiny and thus unprepared. I'm wondering though if this is set-up for a story arc where Telford follows through with what he said in Darkness and replaces Young using the stones.

[Raktael]

ZPMs are the core of atlantean technology, there should be nothing that is not directly or indirectly powered by a ZPM.

If it was a time constraint, they wouldn't have waited a few hours to get data from the 3 planets, they would have scouted it directly

Destiny is pre-ZPM, and 'possibly' pre-atlantis, we know from the opening episodes that Destiny travelled through the Pegasus galaxy, before heading out into deep space, the time estimated to undergo this travel would certainly suggest that at the time it was launched would pre-date almost all the technology used in 'Atlantis'. So whilst the technology in 'Atlantis' uses ZPM's as it's core power source, this ship was designed to last, and has probably lasted for millions of years.

Here is a quick quote from Stargate Wiki

Destiny is capable of absorbing and utilizing solar energy directly from stars. With shields active, the ship itself is able to fly into the lower atmosphere of a star, during which time a portion of the star's energy is collected and stored, making Destiny truly solar powered. At the time of the Destiny Expedition's arrival, power levels were critically low and so this method was soon initiated by the ship automatically. It is theorized that the Destiny uses its ram scoops to collect hydrogen or deuterium to fuel fusion generators. (SGU: "Air, Part 2", "Darkness", "light")

[bolerodan]

Yea. Especially the segment where greer is talking to Akino, makes you realise he really is a hardcore soldier to the bone.

He might have a massive attitude problem, but he knows his stuff - maybe. We'll see later on if he does.

There aren't any characters that i dislike or or think need to be developed further as of yet;

Young is just doing a job - while injured mind you - you can't really expect too much of him right now

Rush does have severe personality faults granted, but from the looks of things he is actually looking out for the other members.

Elliot(?) / Math Boy is if anything, the character i think that's the least developed so far. It's not enough to ruin the character, but he basically has no balls, he doesn't get scared and yet isn't a hardass. Wtf?

EDIT: WTF is with the 15 members / 1 trip bs with the shuttle?

It's ancient technology for gods' sake! It's powered by a ZPM! It can easily do 100,000 trips before running out of juice.

They could have dropped the WHOLE population onto the planet if they wanted to.

Am i the only one that picked this uP?

The Destiny clearly predates Atlantis or any ZPM technology, as well as any sorta Gene related interface. For example, the destiny uses the stars energy to fuel itself. If it was truly ZPM it wouldnt need to do that. ZPM takes energy from subspace and not stars.

Edit: ^^ Guy above me pretty much explains it.

[ToneKnee]

Destiny is pre-ZPM, and 'possibly' pre-atlantis, we know from the opening episodes that Destiny travelled through the Pegasus galaxy, before heading out into deep space, the time estimated to undergo this travel would certainly suggest that at the time it was launched would pre-date almost all the technology used in 'Atlantis'. So whilst the technology in 'Atlantis' uses ZPM's as it's core power source, this ship was designed to last, and has probably lasted for millions of years.

Here is a quick quote from Stargate Wiki

I believe it was mentioned in 'Darkness' that the ship Pre-dates Atlantis, Dr. Rush said it.

[Xero]

I'm not sure why anyone would even think it was made by the same race that created Atlantis. While I'm not arguing its not, it's clearly very very old. It looks nothing like anything found at Atlantis, there's no reason to even think it would be powered by a similar source. It's hallways resemble the SGC more than anything at Atlantis. Plus it was mentioned several pages back, during Atlantis they come across an old warship made by the ancients. Not only does it look similar on its exterior but the interior as well.

Also am I the only one who thinks Rush didn't know what was going to happen? He might have known before the others but I don't see how he could have predicted it, nor were his actions fuelling this theory. What does he stand to benefit by sending off 17 of the most qualified people to their deaths? Not to mention it was his idea to slingshot them around the planet so they'd make it back in time.

My only peeve with the last episode is how they managed to get back into the ship. They landed on it, but not in the proper docking station. How'd they get inside without requiring a space walk in between.

[Lovell]

and wow that must be the smallest star system in the universes.... as Evidenced by the way off scale Star they flew over, wich also changed scale later on as they flew into it... (artists needs to learn to use proper scale and proper camera FOV's on their scenes so scales don't look all messed up). Then the fact they could see the shuttle from the observation window... seriously, even planets drop out of sight really quick when you're n space, never mind shuttles. and the shuttle didn't manage to catch up to the ship BUT it had enough time to return to the planet, slingshot around it and get back with enough speed to land... seriously.. are they taking us for idiots ?

and speaking of scale. the ship is supposed to be huge, almost atlantis huge. YEt the shuttle that took off from it, was in the shot and scale they used 1/10th the size of the ship, which would make it huge, like Earth battleship huge (like the Hammond) and would definately fit more than 20 people, more like everyone and their extended families.

agreed I can only name 1 sci fi show which had good scaling and thats BSG, the problem is it takes away from how big the ship is and it just doesn't look as impressive.

[MR_Candyman]

I'm not sure why anyone would even think it was made by the same race that created Atlantis. While I'm not arguing its not, it's clearly very very old. It looks nothing like anything found at Atlantis, there's no reason to even think it would be powered by a similar source. It's hallways resemble the SGC more than anything at Atlantis. Plus it was mentioned several pages back, during Atlantis they come across an old warship made by the ancients. Not only does it look similar on its exterior but the interior as well.

Also am I the only one who thinks Rush didn't know what was going to happen? He might have known before the others but I don't see how he could have predicted it, nor were his actions fuelling this theory. What does he stand to benefit by sending off 17 of the most qualified people to their deaths? Not to mention it was his idea to slingshot them around the planet so they'd make it back in time.

My only peeve with the last episode is how they managed to get back into the ship. They landed on it, but not in the proper docking station. How'd they get inside without requiring a space walk in between.

umm... they activated the clamps, which were on the Destiny, to lock down the shuttle, so I would assume it was a proper bay

I actually just watched all the episodes so far last night for the first time. I was expecting to be let down by all the negative comments I've been reading. Honestly, I loved every episode.

[Xero]

Yea I liked them all too, but there are some concerns with them, and you were right, they did dock in the proper spot, just seemed to fast when I first saw it.