Stargate Universe (Season 1)

[ceminess]

all far too convenient, this plot device of the ship knowing what to do and saving them all could get very boring very quickly..

Yeah true, well I guess we won't know until next week.

[zagor]

Yeah true, well I guess we won't know until next week.

I guess they want to give him a proper burial. He sacrificed his life after all. But, yes, it is not a pressing issue really.

[episode]

One thing I didn't get was why they mentioned needing to dispose of the senator's body. It's trapped in a shuttle with a door that doesn't open. How exactly are they going to get to it?

Either they figure out how to fix the shields or find EVA suits.

Or he'll somehow come back to life.

[ToneKnee]

The ship pre-dates Atlantis, so most likely the ship pre-dates ZPM's. I don't really see a problem with the ship taking control of things. It was designed for deep space with no crew, so it must have some form of AI, but who is to say that the ship is doing that? For all we know, one of the ancients which have ascended could be controlling it to keep the crew alive *shrugs*

[zagor]

What are the ratings for the show?

[ceminess]

What are the ratings for the show?

Really Good actually. I believe its SyFy's top show right now

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20091012mgm01

[Linkinfamous]

all far too convenient, this plot device of the ship knowing what to do and saving them all could get very boring very quickly..

Until they manage to gain access to the main systems and all of a sudden the ship no longer takes control anymore.

That plot problem solved.

Now...those communication stones. THEY are a huge plot problem. Why haven't McKay and Carter been brought in to fix things?

[Rappy Veteran]

Really Good actually. I believe its SyFy's top show right now

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20091012mgm01

no surprise there :D

[ceminess]

Until they manage to gain access to the main systems and all of a sudden the ship no longer takes control anymore.

That plot problem solved.

Now...those communication stones. THEY are a huge plot problem. Why haven't McKay and Carter been brought in to fix things?

Thats what I was wondering. It looks like they will solve things without them though. I looked through IMDB and Carter isn't in any more episodes this season (that we know of) and neither is McKay.

I did find out that Daniel Jackson is in two more episodes called Human (episode 14) and Subversion (episode 18)

[zagor]

By the way, SG1 season 8 is now available on Hulu.

[BGM]

Until they manage to gain access to the main systems and all of a sudden the ship no longer takes control anymore.

That plot problem solved.

Now...those communication stones. THEY are a huge plot problem. Why haven't McKay and Carter been brought in to fix things?

good point

[macrosslover]

The ship pre-dates Atlantis, so most likely the ship pre-dates ZPM's. I don't really see a problem with the ship taking control of things. It was designed for deep space with no crew, so it must have some form of AI, but who is to say that the ship is doing that? For all we know, one of the ancients which have ascended could be controlling it to keep the crew alive *shrugs*

I don't think the ship predates Atlantis. from what we know this ship is at most 1 million years old unless somehow they changed their estimate of the age of the ship and I missed it, whereas we know Atlantis is at least several million years old. I personally think that it was after the launch of this ship that they developed ZPM and hyperdrive technology and since they still inhabited Atlantis they were able to upgrade it with the new technology.

When they first showed Atlantis leaving Earth on the first episode of Atlantis, I don't remember it ever actually going into hyperspace, it could have used the same FTL technology that this ship uses which would indicate they hadn't developed the technology until they were in the Pegasus galaxy.

[enigma-penguin Veteran]

To be honest I'd say FTL in the destiny's case is a safety measure, you do not just go jumping all over the shop with hyperspace; you could come out anywhere especially without knowing the region of space you're heading in to. It could have been launched after the creation of hyperspace travel and they still wouldn't have used it as the primary source of long range propulsion, it may actually even have a hyper drive as a secondary.

I've said it to enough people in IRC but I'm betting it's an Alcubierre Drive and that would take the power of a zpm or something very powerful to get along. With a ftl drive that pulls you out of normal space you don't deal with time dilation and can still navigate the ship properly because you can see where you are going, as opposed to a "blind jump" with ftl.

[Raktael]

I don't think the ship predates Atlantis. from what we know this ship is at most 1 million years old unless somehow they changed their estimate of the age of the ship and I missed it, whereas we know Atlantis is at least several million years old. I personally think that it was after the launch of this ship that they developed ZPM and hyperdrive technology and since they still inhabited Atlantis they were able to upgrade it with the new technology.

When they first showed Atlantis leaving Earth on the first episode of Atlantis, I don't remember it ever actually going into hyperspace, it could have used the same FTL technology that this ship uses which would indicate they hadn't developed the technology until they were in the Pegasus galaxy.

I think your actually incorrect here, I am pretty sure in episode 4 (I may have to re-watch tonight to confirm) that Dr. Rush says Destiny pre-dates Atlantis. We already know from that episode that none of the technology onboard requires the Ancient Gene to work and thats a pretty clear indication for me that it 'must' pre-date the city. We have to remember that the Destiny was an experiment by the Ancients, that they either couldn't complete (Ascension?) or felt there was no need in completing, and this is also why there are 9 chevrons on the SG, for me, another indication it pre-dates Atlantis (i actually love the stargates in Universe personally)

Also, and I can't go back through to find to quote, but at least we now know how they can shower even with a water shortage...the showers don't use water...pretty handy that, don't you think? ;)

But thats only my opinion, until we find out the actual dates we won't know :)

[Rappy Veteran]

so yeah not going to spoil it for anyone this week :rolleyes: 1.05 Promotional Pictures

[Linkinfamous]

To be honest I'd say FTL in the destiny's case is a safety measure, you do not just go jumping all over the shop with hyperspace; you could come out anywhere especially without knowing the region of space you're heading in to. It could have been launched after the creation of hyperspace travel and they still wouldn't have used it as the primary source of long range propulsion, it may actually even have a hyper drive as a secondary.

I've said it to enough people in IRC but I'm betting it's an Alcubierre Drive and that would take the power of a zpm or something very powerful to get along. With a ftl drive that pulls you out of normal space you don't deal with time dilation and can still navigate the ship properly because you can see where you are going, as opposed to a "blind jump" with ftl.

RUSH: The ship detected a Stargate on a planet within range that may have what we need.

YOUNG: What? Why the hell are there even Stargates out here?

RUSH: The Ancients sent out a number of unmanned ships ahead of this one. They're programmed to gather data, resources, then manufacture Stargates and deposit them on habitable worlds. Any relevant information is relayed back here to help plot the course.

[Nayos]

I do like the new series but does anyone else feel that the ninth chevron is a bit of a let down?

It requires massive amounts of power to dial far away mobile phones Stargates. And there's only one (that we know of).

I wonder if a 9th chevron be used within a single galaxy (e.g., the milky way), so placing a gate on the Tau'ri ships would allow them to "call" each other half way across the galaxy. Assuming they solved the power issues

[11222111]

so.. you prefer the Atlantis style? :blink:

no, no i like the style of sgu - adds a bit of something to the show. Nothing against the sga style either tho - they are juat different

[Xero]

Thats what I was wondering. It looks like they will solve things without them though. I looked through IMDB and Carter isn't in any more episodes this season (that we know of) and neither is McKay.

I did find out that Daniel Jackson is in two more episodes called Human (episode 14) and Subversion (episode 18)

Ah so thats who it is. In Episode 18 they used the stones to bring a 'genius' from Earth to help them solve problems on Destiny. I had my fingers crossed for McKay as last I remember Atlantis was still on Earth unless this is after the Atlantis movie whenever that takes place.

Daniel was one of my favourite characters so I'll be glad to see him come. He would have been really good on Atlantis if they had let him jump shows.

And Destiny is older than Atlantis. They said so in the first few episodes. So it won't use any technology from Atlantis. No ZPM's to the rescue. I'd think the design alone would have been obvious. It's clearly very rugged and worn. Even Earth's ships were cleaner and more sophisticated. This ship is ghetto ;) by design that is.

I'm curious if they ever introduce us to its AI. Clearly it has some form of AI, here's hoping its a talking ship, helllo Night Flyer :D

[Lord Ba'al]

Hey I was a Catholic School choir boy and I liked that scene :shifty:

There you go :laugh:

The ship will deploy the Ancient Big Giant Scoop? and grab enough energy to maintain the crew for the time being. Are there even ZPMs on the Destiny? It's possible the ship predates that technology.

Yes, that's what I thought as well... haven't seen a single one.

[Rappy Veteran]

Did Stargate Universe's Women Get Lost In The Wrong Universe?

The men of Stargate Universe have been busy punching, exploring and saving lives using complicated math. Meanwhile the womenfolk have cried, drank, got naked, and been used up sexually. Is SGU getting a little sexist? Fans certainly think so.

Chicago Tribune's Maureen Ryan pointed out this weekend all the unhappy SGU fans at Television Without Pity saying that SGU is getting fairly sexist with their female characters...

The thing that continues to astound me is that this is the same network which has seen its best ratings ever for Warehouse [13], a show which appeals to a broader set of demos, particularly bringing in new female viewership to the network & yet can't get its head around the fact that those same female viewers are also the most potentially likely to be offended by SGU.

They seemed astounded that women watched BSG and loved the female demo's for Warehouse 13 and yet for SGU we have - boob shots and shower shots and so far every women seems to be defined in some way by a male, either through sex in a closet, or needing some guy for comfort or apparently a prior affair . Oh except for Ming Na, our lesbian character who we've only briefly seen acting like a bitch before she left again. There should have been or should be a strong female character in every single episode and virtually all scenes but we get Eli and Rush and Young and Scott and of course dear, helpless Chloe. Honestly, in a weird way SGU seems very 'dated' in it's viewpoints and set ups for the female characters; I almost feel like I'm watching scifi from the 70's.

The message board is flooded with negative opinions about the practically mute female cast aboard the Destiny. Ming-Na's much-hyped openly lesbian character has all but said three words along with equally quiet T.J., while the hapless Senator's daughter wanders about the ship never far from the crook of a protective man's arm, even though she totes doesn't need it.

To be honest I agree and disagree. The men themselves, while getting a lot more screen time are horribly stereotyped. There's the quiet stern one, the nerd, the hot adventurous white guy, angry black guy, and the jock. Do we really want the women getting more screen time, if they will only be subjected to this type of stereotyping?

But, the series still has hope. Even though I was loathe to see this weeks big moment for the one female character who's had more than 5 lines, the Senator's daughter, wound up with her up in a shower while the leering nerd PG-ly panted nearby. Although this whole scene was annoying as hell, "hmmm we need to give the women something to do, let's make her take her clothes off and the nerd go bananas!" there were little glimmers of hope in this scene.

Eli was being forced to interact with people, not just blurt out unfunny zingers for no reason. It was there and a few other flutters, where this new series shows promise. Too bad it was sandwiched between two very annoying characters ? the Senator's daughter who whines constantly and needs to be surrounded by men at all time, even while showering, and the "other one" soldier lady who was apparently put on screen for gratuitous "I have large breasts" camera angles [anyone else catch that moment?]. In fact I've even forgotten this character's name, I honestly know her as the soldier with larger than average boobs, which makes me sad inside.

But Eli's face actually worked for a few seconds, and it's glimmers that keep me clinging on to this series that still doesn't know how to mesh these two worlds together. I'm hoping that characters that have all but been silent, like the blonde medic TJ, will give the women something else to do. Which may not be the case, since the show is all too happy to point out, continually, that she is a PARAMEDIC not a REAL Doctor, which by now sounds less like "these people are ill equipped" and more like "she is ill equipped" when repeated over and over. Please note that none of the other main characters are ever really subjected to this constant "you're not good enough" attention that she likes to lump on herself. Why? We don't know yet, but it's starting to grate. And let's hope SGU brings TJ and Ming-Na out to do, well hell, something.

[Xero]

Yea I guess they have a point. Carter/Tela/Weir were all pretty strong female roles. Nothing really so far in SGU. Although the doc chick seems like she could pick up the throne as the strong female lead. She at least has some aggression to take out. All others seem pretty laid back.

I don't really care. We all know woman are perfectly capable of doing everything a man can do, except, math, chess, running, jumping, lifting stuff, fixing things, making money, hockey, surfing, driving, making decisions, being tall, taking out the garbage, tipping, fishing, being funny (on purpose), reading a map, listening to good bands, writing, running the country or inventing anything important. :)

..there might be some sarcasm in that post.

[DrewJW]

MOAR BOOBS!

[Rappy Veteran]

Yea I guess they have a point. Carter/Tela/Weir were all pretty strong female roles. Nothing really so far in SGU. Although the doc chick seems like she could pick up the throne as the strong female lead. She at least has some aggression to take out. All others seem pretty laid back.

I don't really care. We all know woman are perfectly capable of doing everything a man can do, except, math, chess, running, jumping, lifting stuff, fixing things, making money, hockey, surfing, driving, making decisions, being tall, taking out the garbage, tipping, fishing, being funny (on purpose), reading a map, listening to good bands, writing, running the country or inventing anything important. :)

..there might be some sarcasm in that post.

:rofl:

[MrKuro]

Now...those communication stones. THEY are a huge plot problem. Why haven't McKay and Carter been brought in to fix things?

wow; great point! :)