Stargate Universe (Season 1)


Poll added by Fred Derf on April 10th  

157 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should lead on Destiny?



Recommended Posts

Character dev in this episode was the best than its ever been.

Not really considering they used Star Trek's favourite plot device, the time travel reset button.

I thought it was a decent episode, although as soon as Chloe died you knew it would reset somehow (unfortunately, I can't stand her character >.>). I hope they don't glaze over it next week tho as this episode wasn't a two parter and it will be pretty fail if "everything is ok now!"

Why do people hate standalone episodes so much? Once upon a time TV shows were made of standalone (aka "filler") episodes including SG-1.

yeah at least they aren't every week but now and again is good!

I tried to ignore the device the moment I knew they were putting it in play and just focused on what they were doing, it's a little funny as I was only watching "The Last Man" earlier that morning so it felt doubly overplayed for me while watching this episode.

yeah at least they aren't every week but now and again is good!

I'd like to see some shows go back to the stand alone format more often. People have been spoiled by the epic serials such as 24, Lost, BSG, etc. Some shows are trying to follow suit but failing hard (i.e. Defying Gravity).

I know what you mean rob I used to love shows a bit like for example murder mystery's we have here in the UK where every week is different and its never connected so if you miss one or two you haven't missed a story because its always different.

Guys, you realise that it's only going to be the 2nd Kino that they'll discover? They never threw the first one back into the last loop.

They'll get to the planet, get the critter/s, and be gone. Simple. (Unless they change the story, which is very likely considering...)

Which means that by not watching the 1st Kino, they won't have really done the character discovery they did the first time.

Really wasted episode IMO. If I wanted to see that, i'd have watched Aliens (which I hate), and SG1's solar flare episodes. (which I like :p).

Double thumbs down.

Guys, you realise that it's only going to be the 2nd Kino that they'll discover? They never threw the first one back into the last loop.

They'll get to the planet, get the critter/s, and be gone. Simple. (Unless they change the story, which is very likely considering...)

Which means that by not watching the 1st Kino, they won't have really done the character discovery they did the first time.

Really wasted episode IMO. If I wanted to see that, i'd have watched Aliens (which I hate), and SG1's solar flare episodes. (which I like :p).

Double thumbs down.

No, a copy of the first kino should still be there since it exists in "time loop #2"'s past and the stargate should lead to the past of "time loop #2", just that this time there'll be an additional kino.

No, i'm fairly sure that's not the case.

Why would Scott have had to say where the critters lived and that they are nocturnal then? Seems a bit redundant if they watch the 1st Kino then the 2nd one?

I'm sticking with my vote that they won't get/see the 1st Kino... we'll know next week?

The first kino was sent back in time, allowing all subsequent teams to find it upon arrival in their present. Even though we see one team pick it up and take it back to Destiny, they picked it up from their specific present; they did not pick it up from the past. Therefore, the final team finds both kinos. More detail can be found in "kino episode #18," where they discuss finding both of the kinos:

after seeing all the episodes and I recently finished watching Atlantis (second time around).. not to long ago..

I'm sorta curious on this show but so far its so so.. every episode it feels like you want to watch a bit more just to finish it, and it should be a 2 hour episode feeling..

like it would feel better if I watched all the episodes back to back, after the season is over..

but so far I'm intrigued by it and hope the show does something really interesting soon

Why do people hate standalone episodes so much? Once upon a time TV shows were made of standalone (aka "filler") episodes including SG-1.

standalone does not equal filler

I actually like shows with mostly standalone episodes and not necessarily huge giant arcs wher eyou need to watch every single episode to not have missed something(I will anyway but).

Fillers is a whole nother beast.fillers are just that, episodes there only to fill the tv schedule, with nothing to bring to the show, no story no nothing.

I'd like to see some shows go back to the stand alone format more often. People have been spoiled by the epic serials such as 24, Lost, BSG, etc. Some shows are trying to follow suit but failing hard (i.e. Defying Gravity).

Me too. I enjoyed shows much more when they embraced that format. Now if you miss a week you are screwed.

Is Life the next episode this week? If it is, that's funny. Time Life. LULZ

Not sure if that's funny or advertisers are getting really clever now :D

Just wanted to give MHO on story arcs - I like them a lot better than standalone shows, they always seem to be more interesting and is better for character development. In this day and age (and technology like the internet) there is no excuse to ever miss a show.

A lot of shows have been better for they story arc format, esp. BSG. The worst episodes were the standalone ones ("Black Market", "The Woman King" for example). I think where this show suffered was from a mad dash at the finish to brinig all the threads together. It really should have had a Fifth Season. Would really like to know why that did no t happen.

I quite like SGU, despite the fact that its basic premise looks like a mashup of BSG and ST:V. This show has to evolve though. Surely it can't get past one season if it sticks to a "crisis of the day" format episode after episode.

I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

Edited by ZX2
I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

They did not find the whole away teams bodies, they found the remains of Rush and Scott (the only two people to go through the gate) and kino1 in timeloop1, in timeloop2 they will find the remains of Rush and Scott and kino1 and kino2. The events that took place in "real time" (as opposed to taking place from the Kino point of views) will not have any affect on what appeared in the past (Rush and Scotts bodies and later remains, and kino1) but it will have the added kino2 from the second timeloop.

And no, they will not find only 3 bodies, in timeloop2 Young and Grier (however you spell his name) both died and could not in any way go through the gate that would take their bodies into the past, as far as I remember Scott from timeloop2 did not go through the gate, only send a second kino through. The only remains they will find are Rush and Scott from timeloop1 (even the recording from the kino did not show the entire "away team", it only showed the bodies of those who stepped through the gate and traveled to the past).

I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

Kino 1 had to have been sent into the past by the first team or else team #2 wouldn't have been able to find it. Team #2 doesn't need to send it to the past since it's already there, but now there's going to be an additional kino (kino #2). I wonder how far back the loop went. Rush #2 could be still alive when team #3 arrive.

Also on an unrelated note, I have a theory on who might have been in that pod that detached from the ship in episode 3. If you look at the space suits on the destiny they're exactly the same as the suits the evil asgard wore in Atlantis, except for the helmets. This means those asgard were probably around near the time the destiny was launched. Also the thrusters on the evil asgard ship were red, just like the one on the pod.

Kino 1 had to have been sent into the past by the first team or else team #2 wouldn't have been able to find it. Team #2 doesn't need to send it to the past since it's already there, but now there's going to be an additional kino (kino #2). I wonder how far back the loop went. Rush #2 could be still alive when team #3 arrive.

Also on an unrelated note, I have a theory on who might have been in that pod that detached from the ship in episode 3. If you look at the space suits on the destiny they're exactly the same as the suits the evil asgard wore in Atlantis, except for the helmets. This means those asgard were probably around near the time the destiny was launched. Also the thrusters on the evil asgard ship were red, just like the one on the pod.

Yea like Raa was trying to explain the 2nd kino went back the same time the first did, so both are there in that time period :) And thats a good point about the asgard. They certainly could fit in that small ship. Not to mention they went on about how a few were badly damaged which means they had to be in use. Timestamp that **** I think you might have it. ;)

There could have been an infinite loop paradox where the team goes through the gate, keeps getting owned by the creatures and Scott sending a kino back again.

i could see that happening, but each time they would be updating what they need to do to fix the problem of the virus....

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Glow 26.10 by Razvan Serea Glow provides detailed reporting on every hardware component in your computer, saving you valuable time typically spent searching for CPU, motherboard, RAM, graphics card, and other stats. With Glow, all the information is conveniently presented in one clean interface, allowing you to easily access and review the comprehensive hardware details of your system. Glow provides detailed information on various system aspects, including OS, motherboard, processor, memory, graphics card, storage, network, battery, drivers, and services. The well-organized format ensures easy access to the required information. You can export all the gathered data to a plain text file, facilitating sharing with others for troubleshooting purposes. No installation needed. Just decompress the archive, launch the executable, and access computer-related information. Glow runs on Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit versions. Glow 26.10 changelog: New Features The bootstrapping algorithm has been completely redesigned. The software can now launch directly without requiring TS Preloader. As part of this change, the startup splash screen displayed during initialization has been removed. In addition, spikes in CPU usage have been eliminated, resulting in a more stable architecture with significantly lower memory consumption. The Microsoft Office detection infrastructure within the Operating System section has been enhanced. Additional detection support has been added for Office C2R (Click-to-Run) installations. Furthermore, the license status evaluation system has been improved, and the priority order has been revised as follows: Licensed > Grace Period > Other (NOTIFICATIONS, EVALUATION, etc.). Glow now includes preliminary support for Wi-Fi 8 technology, allowing more detailed information to be displayed for Wi-Fi 8-compatible network adapters. Glow now provides full support for Bluetooth 6.2. Adapters supporting Bluetooth 6.2 can be analyzed in greater detail and with improved accuracy. The disk distribution view in the Disk section has been modernized, replacing the traditional table layout with a new 2×2 card-based design. The TS Custom Controls module has been updated to v26.7. Thanks to the new custom controls, all Türkaysoft applications now offer a more modern and consistent user interface aligned with Windows 11 design standards. Bug Fixes Potential line-ending handling issues in the Office detection code within the Operating System section have been resolved. Additionally, the output format has been standardized to UTF-8 to prevent character encoding issues and ensure consistent data processing. Several stability and file management issues within the Debugging infrastructure have been addressed. Problems that prevented new log files from being created after Debugging was disabled, as well as issues causing debug records to be lost, have been fixed. File deletion and reaccess issues that occurred after file locks were released have also been resolved. In addition, a bug that caused newly recreated log files to remain locked after deletion has been eliminated. Unnecessary blank lines within debug logs and the extra empty line that could appear at the end of log files have also been corrected. A shortcut key conflict caused by assigning identical hotkeys to both the DNS Test Tool and the Donation page has been fixed. The DNS Test Tool can now be accessed using CTRL + Shift + D, while the Donation page is available via CTRL + Alt + D. Changes The service responsible for providing the Public IP Address and Internet Service Provider information in the Network section has been updated to use the ipinfo.io infrastructure. This change improves the accuracy and consistency of the displayed data. (No external requests are made while Hiding Mode is enabled.) Some terms in the Dutch and Korean language files have been updated to make them clearer and more user-friendly. [TS Updater] Before the update process begins, users are now prompted to choose whether they would like to view the release notes. Note: Always unzip the program before using it. Otherwise you may get an error. Download: Glow 26.10 | 1.8 MB (Open Source) Links: Glow Homepage | Screenshot | Github Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Maradona if hydration breaks had existed in Mexico 86.
    • The quantum search for Time's origin had an equally mind-boggling conclusion by Sayan Sen Image by Steve Johnson via Pexels A theoretical study from researchers at the University of Surrey suggested that the direction of time may not be fundamentally fixed in certain quantum systems. The work, published in Scientific Reports, examined how the “arrow of time” could emerge from microscopic physics and found that time-reversal symmetry can remain intact even in models used to describe processes such as energy loss and thermalisation. The arrow of time refers to the observed one-way direction from past to future in everyday life. In macroscopic processes, this is easy to see. Spilled milk spreads across a table and does not gather back into a glass, and heat flows from hotter objects to colder ones. These processes shape the common sense idea that time moves in a single direction. However, at the level of fundamental physics, many equations do not prefer a direction of time. Time-reversal symmetry means that the same physical laws can describe a system whether time moves forward or backward. This has made it difficult to explain why irreversible behaviour appears in the large-scale world even when the underlying rules do not require it. Dr Andrea Rocco, Associate Professor in Physics and Mathematical Biology at the University of Surrey, described this contrast: "One way to explain this is when you look at a process like spilt milk spreading across a table, it's clear that time is moving forward. But if you were to play that in reverse, like a movie, you'd immediately know something was wrong – it would be hard to believe milk could just gather back into a glass. However, there are processes, such as the motion of a pendulum, that look just as believable in reverse. The puzzle is that, at the most fundamental level, the laws of physics resemble the pendulum; they do not account for irreversible processes. Our findings suggest that while our common experience tells us that time only moves one way, we are just unaware that the opposite direction would have been equally possible." The study focused on open quantum systems, which are quantum systems that interact with a surrounding environment. This environment, often described as a heat bath, can exchange energy and information with the system. The researchers used this framework to study how a direction of time might appear even when the underlying physics does not enforce one. A key part of the analysis involved the Markov approximation. This is a simplification used in many models where the system is assumed not to retain memory of its past states. The idea is that changes depend only on the current state, not on earlier history. This is commonly used when studying thermalisation, which is the process where a system settles into equilibrium with its environment. The study also used concepts such as master equations, including the Lindblad and Pauli equations, which describe how probabilities of different quantum states change over time. Another related model discussed was quantum Brownian motion, which describes the random-like movement of a quantum particle interacting continuously with its environment. In these descriptions, a “memory kernel” can appear, which is a mathematical term that accounts for how past states influence current behaviour. The researchers found that applying the Markov approximation did not break time-reversal symmetry. Even when the system interacted with an effectively infinite heat bath, the resulting equations of motion remained symmetric in time. This meant that the same mathematical description could, in principle, run forward or backward in time without contradiction. The study further showed that standard frameworks used in open quantum systems, including quantum Brownian motion and master equations like the Lindblad and Pauli forms, could be written in a time-symmetric way. These equations are typically used to describe processes that look irreversible, such as dissipation and thermalisation, but the results suggested they can also be interpreted as allowing evolution in both time directions. Thomas Guff, Research Fellow in Quantum Thermodynamics, said: "The surprising part of this project was that even after making the standard simplifying assumption to our equations describing open quantum systems, the equations still behaved the same way whether the system was moving forwards or backwards in time. When we carefully worked through the maths, we found that this behaviour had to be the case because a key part of the equation, the "memory kernel," is symmetrical in time. We also found a small but important detail which is usually overlooked – a time discontinuous factor emerged that kept the time-symmetry property intact. It’s unusual to see such a mathematical mechanism in a physics equation because it's not continuous, and it was very surprising to see it appear so naturally." The researchers also noted that deriving a one-way arrow of time from time-reversal symmetric microscopic dynamics remains an open problem across fields such as thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, particle physics, and cosmology. Their results suggested that some standard descriptions of irreversible behaviour in open quantum systems may be better understood using a time-symmetric formulation of Markovianity. According to the study, processes such as thermalisation, which are usually treated as irreversible, could in theory be described in a way that allows evolution in either time direction under the same rules. This does not imply that time reversal occurs in everyday life, but rather that the underlying equations do not strictly enforce a single direction. Overall, the findings suggested that the perceived direction of time may emerge from how physical systems are modelled and approximated, rather than from a fundamental asymmetry in the laws themselves. The researchers noted that this perspective could have implications for ongoing work in quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and cosmology on the origin of time’s arrow. Source: University of Surrey, Nature This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing
    • A bit premature... 100% Marketing. Bizarre.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      BizSAR earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • First Post
      AndreaB earned a badge
      First Post
    • Week One Done
      Huge Trailer earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      Classifyskilleducation earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      eurospharma62 earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      581
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      182
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      75
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      73
    5. 5
      neufuse
      64
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!