Stargate Universe (Season 1)

[Neoauld]

I liked what "Time" did for character development, I love the vindication of Eli's Kino recordings for one; "who's going to watch it" "WE ARE!"

Character dev in this episode was the best than its ever been.

[DrCheese]

Character dev in this episode was the best than its ever been.

Not really considering they used Star Trek's favourite plot device, the time travel reset button.

I thought it was a decent episode, although as soon as Chloe died you knew it would reset somehow (unfortunately, I can't stand her character >.>). I hope they don't glaze over it next week tho as this episode wasn't a two parter and it will be pretty fail if "everything is ok now!"

[Growled Member]

Not really considering they used Star Trek's favourite plot device, the time travel reset button.

I hate that plot device with a passion. It's way over used.

[Rappy Veteran]

Why do people hate standalone episodes so much? Once upon a time TV shows were made of standalone (aka "filler") episodes including SG-1.

yeah at least they aren't every week but now and again is good!

[enigma-penguin Veteran]

I tried to ignore the device the moment I knew they were putting it in play and just focused on what they were doing, it's a little funny as I was only watching "The Last Man" earlier that morning so it felt doubly overplayed for me while watching this episode.

[Rob2687]

yeah at least they aren't every week but now and again is good!

I'd like to see some shows go back to the stand alone format more often. People have been spoiled by the epic serials such as 24, Lost, BSG, etc. Some shows are trying to follow suit but failing hard (i.e. Defying Gravity).

[Rappy Veteran]

I know what you mean rob I used to love shows a bit like for example murder mystery's we have here in the UK where every week is different and its never connected so if you miss one or two you haven't missed a story because its always different.

[Raa]

Guys, you realise that it's only going to be the 2nd Kino that they'll discover? They never threw the first one back into the last loop.

They'll get to the planet, get the critter/s, and be gone. Simple. (Unless they change the story, which is very likely considering...)

Which means that by not watching the 1st Kino, they won't have really done the character discovery they did the first time.

Really wasted episode IMO. If I wanted to see that, i'd have watched Aliens (which I hate), and SG1's solar flare episodes. (which I like :p).

Double thumbs down.

[giantpotato]

Guys, you realise that it's only going to be the 2nd Kino that they'll discover? They never threw the first one back into the last loop.

They'll get to the planet, get the critter/s, and be gone. Simple. (Unless they change the story, which is very likely considering...)

Which means that by not watching the 1st Kino, they won't have really done the character discovery they did the first time.

Really wasted episode IMO. If I wanted to see that, i'd have watched Aliens (which I hate), and SG1's solar flare episodes. (which I like :p).

Double thumbs down.

No, a copy of the first kino should still be there since it exists in "time loop #2"'s past and the stargate should lead to the past of "time loop #2", just that this time there'll be an additional kino.

[Raa]

No, i'm fairly sure that's not the case.

Why would Scott have had to say where the critters lived and that they are nocturnal then? Seems a bit redundant if they watch the 1st Kino then the 2nd one?

I'm sticking with my vote that they won't get/see the 1st Kino... we'll know next week?

[someone64]

The first kino was sent back in time, allowing all subsequent teams to find it upon arrival in their present. Even though we see one team pick it up and take it back to Destiny, they picked it up from their specific present; they did not pick it up from the past. Therefore, the final team finds both kinos. More detail can be found in "kino episode #18," where they discuss finding both of the kinos:

[Spacce]

after seeing all the episodes and I recently finished watching Atlantis (second time around).. not to long ago..

I'm sorta curious on this show but so far its so so.. every episode it feels like you want to watch a bit more just to finish it, and it should be a 2 hour episode feeling..

like it would feel better if I watched all the episodes back to back, after the season is over..

but so far I'm intrigued by it and hope the show does something really interesting soon

[Solid Knight]

After watching the series thus far I can't say that I like it. It went from a Sci-Fi action show into a soap opera in space. It's boring.

[HawkMan]

Why do people hate standalone episodes so much? Once upon a time TV shows were made of standalone (aka "filler") episodes including SG-1.

standalone does not equal filler

I actually like shows with mostly standalone episodes and not necessarily huge giant arcs wher eyou need to watch every single episode to not have missed something(I will anyway but).

Fillers is a whole nother beast.fillers are just that, episodes there only to fill the tv schedule, with nothing to bring to the show, no story no nothing.

[Rappy Veteran]

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[Growled Member]

I'd like to see some shows go back to the stand alone format more often. People have been spoiled by the epic serials such as 24, Lost, BSG, etc. Some shows are trying to follow suit but failing hard (i.e. Defying Gravity).

Me too. I enjoyed shows much more when they embraced that format. Now if you miss a week you are screwed.

[LOC Veteran]

Is Life the next episode this week? If it is, that's funny. Time Life. LULZ

[Plisskin]

Is Life the next episode this week? If it is, that's funny. Time Life. LULZ

Not sure if that's funny or advertisers are getting really clever now :D

Just wanted to give MHO on story arcs - I like them a lot better than standalone shows, they always seem to be more interesting and is better for character development. In this day and age (and technology like the internet) there is no excuse to ever miss a show.

A lot of shows have been better for they story arc format, esp. BSG. The worst episodes were the standalone ones ("Black Market", "The Woman King" for example). I think where this show suffered was from a mad dash at the finish to brinig all the threads together. It really should have had a Fifth Season. Would really like to know why that did no t happen.

I quite like SGU, despite the fact that its basic premise looks like a mashup of BSG and ST:V. This show has to evolve though. Surely it can't get past one season if it sticks to a "crisis of the day" format episode after episode.

[AltecXP]

I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

Edited November 16, 2009 by ZX2

[Rappy Veteran]

[Nagisan]

I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

They did not find the whole away teams bodies, they found the remains of Rush and Scott (the only two people to go through the gate) and kino1 in timeloop1, in timeloop2 they will find the remains of Rush and Scott and kino1 and kino2. The events that took place in "real time" (as opposed to taking place from the Kino point of views) will not have any affect on what appeared in the past (Rush and Scotts bodies and later remains, and kino1) but it will have the added kino2 from the second timeloop.

And no, they will not find only 3 bodies, in timeloop2 Young and Grier (however you spell his name) both died and could not in any way go through the gate that would take their bodies into the past, as far as I remember Scott from timeloop2 did not go through the gate, only send a second kino through. The only remains they will find are Rush and Scott from timeloop1 (even the recording from the kino did not show the entire "away team", it only showed the bodies of those who stepped through the gate and traveled to the past).

[giantpotato]

I don't see how they would find 2 Kino's. Kino 1 was never sent the the past, Kino 2 was.

Also they should only find 3 bodies instead of the whole away team.

Kino 1 had to have been sent into the past by the first team or else team #2 wouldn't have been able to find it. Team #2 doesn't need to send it to the past since it's already there, but now there's going to be an additional kino (kino #2). I wonder how far back the loop went. Rush #2 could be still alive when team #3 arrive.

Also on an unrelated note, I have a theory on who might have been in that pod that detached from the ship in episode 3. If you look at the space suits on the destiny they're exactly the same as the suits the evil asgard wore in Atlantis, except for the helmets. This means those asgard were probably around near the time the destiny was launched. Also the thrusters on the evil asgard ship were red, just like the one on the pod.

[Rob2687]

There could have been an infinite loop paradox where the team goes through the gate, keeps getting owned by the creatures and Scott sending a kino back again.

[Xero]

Kino 1 had to have been sent into the past by the first team or else team #2 wouldn't have been able to find it. Team #2 doesn't need to send it to the past since it's already there, but now there's going to be an additional kino (kino #2). I wonder how far back the loop went. Rush #2 could be still alive when team #3 arrive.

Also on an unrelated note, I have a theory on who might have been in that pod that detached from the ship in episode 3. If you look at the space suits on the destiny they're exactly the same as the suits the evil asgard wore in Atlantis, except for the helmets. This means those asgard were probably around near the time the destiny was launched. Also the thrusters on the evil asgard ship were red, just like the one on the pod.

Yea like Raa was trying to explain the 2nd kino went back the same time the first did, so both are there in that time period :) And thats a good point about the asgard. They certainly could fit in that small ship. Not to mention they went on about how a few were badly damaged which means they had to be in use. Timestamp that **** I think you might have it. ;)

[The_Observer]

There could have been an infinite loop paradox where the team goes through the gate, keeps getting owned by the creatures and Scott sending a kino back again.

i could see that happening, but each time they would be updating what they need to do to fix the problem of the virus....