thefonz Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 WHAT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Whats wrong with ripping off BSG? That was one of the seminal, greatest tv shows ever created - we all loved it, it worked and it was handled well. Common sense says you take what works and use it as an influence!So by that logic - to those people who say that "SGU RIPS OFF BSG!" what you are really saying is you are ****ed because SGU is on par with a show of the calibre of BSG. While I disagree with that idea since I don't believe we're nowhere near the core of what SGU is going to follow, I do like that the writers of SGU have taken the main ideas of BSG and made it their own show. Nothing wrong with that - and besides, BSG was heavily influenced (because its INFLUENCED not RIPPED OFF we're talking here) by Star Wars, 2001: Space Odyssey, and Blade Runner...did we complain then? Hell no! I say, sit back and enjoy where SGU is going, because if the producers were to really listen then we'd get a copy of SG1 which quite frankly would be boring as ****. I'm still waiting for this amazing idea to take the Stargate franchise in btw. altlantis was basically the same as sg1, exploring other worlds through the gate, that wasn't boring though. SGU on the other hand is boring, I suppose the reason I can't stand this show is I couldn't stand BSG. I like my sci-fi shows exciting and amusing at times, not drama, drama...drama. Unfortuently what I have seen so far....cannot be unseen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Whats wrong with ripping off BSG? That was one of the seminal, greatest tv shows ever created - we all loved it, it worked and it was handled well. Common sense says you take what works and use it as an influence! The thing is BSG while it had Drama, and way to much of it halfway through, it also had awesome space combat scenes, and science fiction stuff. SGU has Drama, Dram more drama, and people walking on planets that look just like earth before they get back on ship at the last second. There's zero reason for BSG to be a SciFi show, as opposed to a show about a group of people stuck on an unknown island or something. I had big hopes for SGU, but they crushed them all when my fears of a silly Lost in space/voyager clone was confrirmed. anyway, as to where they could have taken it, well to start with there was never any need for the universe part, our galaxy is big enough that in the hundreds of thousands of years the ship has been traveling, it would have even been able to map and seed all the habitable planets in our own milky way. They should have stayed here but done the same routine of being on an ancient seeding ship on the other side of the galaxy, and then introduced a few local aliens, Friends, enemies, good guys, bad guys. and made it into a proper SciFi Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted December 10, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted December 10, 2009 Stargate/Hyperspace window opened over skys of Norway. :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ever seen a plane go through a cloud, it creates spiral whisps in the clouds because of the jet engine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ever seen a plane go through a cloud, it creates spiral whisps in the clouds because of the jet engine. which brings to mind the plane landing in die hard 2, when it flys through the smoke and makes a cool swirl in the smoke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591953984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted December 10, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 10, 2009 altlantis was basically the same as sg1, exploring other worlds through the gate, that wasn't boring though. SGU on the other hand is boring, I suppose the reason I can't stand this show is I couldn't stand BSG. I like my sci-fi shows exciting and amusing at times, not drama, drama...drama.Unfortuently what I have seen so far....cannot be unseen. Well I like the drama-ry aspect to SGU. Don't get me wrong, I loved SG1 and SGA (and still do), but after being the longest continually-running sci-fi show ever and it's incredibly similar spin-off, it was time for something new. If anything kills this show, it's not the slight genre shift, it's this damn mid-season break. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 SGU has Drama, Dram more drama, and people walking on planets that look just like earth before they get back on ship at the last second. There's zero reason for BSG to be a SciFi show, as opposed to a show about a group of people stuck on an unknown island or something. Well, at least in SGU the planets don't all look like a certain dirt pit and forest in British Columbia, unlike all the planets in SG-1 and SGA. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temple_treefrog Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Well, at least in SGU the planets don't all look like a certain dirt pit and forest in British Columbia, unlike all the planets in SG-1 and SGA. Haha yeah I was thinking that! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
testroom_9 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 having been a fan of SG1 and SGA for years and years i was loving the idea when SGU came along as i hated the idea of loosing such a great show as SG... after watching SGU till now i am now giving up :(! i really didnt want this to happen but for me SGU is not SG, its a drama and a bad one at that, where they refer to space sometimes - you could remove the space aspect and it wouldnt be that different. the characters and the idea work on paper, they are intresting and complex, peoblem is they never do anything apart from distrust each other.... whats the point of being on a ship that stopps at un charted planets in a far far away place if your not going to use the gate/ship as a portal for stories? they might as well just live in an appartment in LA that they cant escape from.... as a fan i wanted to love SGU - i'll no longer be watching - FAIL! :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 I admit, they are taking the whole drama aspect a little too far. I'm a fan of SG-1 and SGA as well and I want to see more 'Sci-Fi'. I want to see them going to more planets, discovering new technology, and meeting new aliens. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
testroom_9 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 they did meet some aliens, the flying bug things... i have a feeling they were just a token to keep the people who want aliens/tech and planets hoping.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 I will most certainly catch up during the winter break Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 10, 2009 Member Share Posted December 10, 2009 If anything kills this show, it's not the slight genre shift, it's this damn mid-season break. I agree. That long break is gonna hurt V as well. You can't leave fans hanging in the air for long periods of time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 they did meet some aliens, the flying bug things... i have a feeling they were just a token to keep the people who want aliens/tech and planets hoping.... That seemed awfully similar to the flying lights in sg1 & atlantis that flew at people and attacked them. I can't believe that and those bugs (also like those bugs in atlantis) are the only things they've managed to come up with. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefonz Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Isnt this continuing to be shown in the UK by Sky? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 Isnt this continuing to be shown in the UK by Sky? yeah it is but there's no word yet whether or not it will air during the US break Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Ever seen a plane go through a cloud, it creates spiral whisps in the clouds because of the jet engine. Actually, the jet engine does not cause this effect. It is caused by higher pressure air on the underside of the wing rushing up to equalise the lower pressure air on the upper side of the wing. This occurs at the wing tip and results in significant induced drag - this can be minimised by using upturned "winglets" at the wingtip. Lookup wingtip vortices for more.... Probably too much information there! ANYWAY back on topic... I love this show and really enjoy the added drama and character development. This also has the added benefit that my girlfriend also enjoys (to an extent) watching it with me without moaning that I'm watching another "boring" sci-fi! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591954846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 The biggest problem with the series is that there is no excitement. The problems they face are boring. The drama is weak and unfortunately plentiful. Nothing of interest is happening. If they wanted a "grittier" series they could have just upped the seriousness and realism of warfare but instead we get crybabies in space. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591955048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 Well, it gets more serious in the 2nd half of the season at least. Btw, you guys should listen to the podcasts from Gateworld for the episodes, especially Time. Some really interesting things they bring up which I didn't even think about when I watched it. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591955152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_neutrino Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 i will have to take a look at the podcasts i did not know they were doing them so i will give them a listen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591955166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Actually, the jet engine does not cause this effect.It is caused by higher pressure air on the underside of the wing rushing up to equalise the lower pressure air on the upper side of the wing. This occurs at the wing tip and results in significant induced drag - this can be minimised by using upturned "winglets" at the wingtip. Lookup wingtip vortices for more.... Probably too much information there! ANYWAY back on topic... I love this show and really enjoy the added drama and character development. This also has the added benefit that my girlfriend also enjoys (to an extent) watching it with me without moaning that I'm watching another "boring" sci-fi! That's because girls like soaps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591955172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted December 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2009 i will have to take a look at the podcasts i did not know they were doing them so i will give them a listen. Good :) Just be aware they contain spoilers for episodes that haven't aired sometimes, not much but it may be a problem for some. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591955186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
testroom_9 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 for me, if i need to watch/ listen to a pod cast to enjoy a show, the show is too weak to stand alone... they have gone on record to say that if people want anything remotley SG this season they will be dissapointed... on the off chance - if anything good does happen, like a good plot, cool tech or aliens etc then please post so i can start watching again... atm i have a feeling that SGU wont get more than 2 seasons :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591958116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well, at least in SGU the planets don't all look like a certain dirt pit and forest in British Columbia, unlike all the planets in SG-1 and SGA. They explained that in the show, the Goa'uld picked planets that closely resembled earth when they seeded other planets with humans from earth so it would match up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/660722-stargate-universe-season-1/page/43/#findComment-591958118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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