Welcome to Neowin 5

[tomwarren Veteran]

As has been stated several times in this thread (feel like I keep repeating myself) the forums will be changed to the new design but it's expected the width will remain like the forums are now as we do not have any major design constraints on the forums.

[Calculator]

First of all: I love the new design! :wub:

Although, I have to agree with the annoying ads and the fixed width which makes my wide-screen flat screen completely useless. (Luckily, it's quite simple in fact to get around both issues with a bit of creativity and Firefox of course! :p)

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

First of all: I love the new design! :wub:

Although, I have to agree with the annoying ads and the fixed width which makes my wide-screen flat screen completely useless. (Luckily, it's quite simple in fact to get around both issues with a bit of creativity and Firefox of course! :p)

Firefox Stylish/Greasemonkey width script please :p

[PNWDweller]

Ok, for those of you who use Firefox and who have gripes with the the width and other readability issues, i've created the following Stylish userstyle to make it easier on the eye:

Neowin Finity "Mod"

It's based on a previously linked to userstyle and I highly recommend it. Most of us here should find using this easy enough, but if not, let me know and i'll explain further. Hopefully in the fullness on time these changes will be incorporated into the official Neowin Finity design..... Until then you can use this.... Oh, btw, feel free to modify it (easier than you think/I thought) and improve it

Here you go Audioboxer. :)

[Calculator]

Firefox Stylish/Greasemonkey width script please :p

Quite simple in fact. :p

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain(neowin.net) {
  #container {
	width: auto !important;
	margin: 0 25px !important;
  }
}

Luckily there's no #container on the forums, so it works perfectly.

Also interesting to add is this fix for the horizontal rules between news articles being overlapped by news images (floating at the right) for short news articles. This is a problem which may occur quite often when you have so much space on your screen. :)

  #content-main .hr {
	clear: both !important;
  }

Enjoy! :)

EDIT: Damn, can't believe I actually missed that. :p

EDIT2: Well, that user script could use some modification. Please check my code above for a more interesting way to get a real fluid width. Also, this user scripts affects the forums too, which isn't very interesting. To fix this, remove the "/*resize*/" section and insert my code. Other than that, good work on giving more padding, looks more appealing and easier to read. :)

Edited October 15, 2008 by Mattike

[Crazysah]

Wow. I must say I am liking Neowin 5 very much! Great job done guys...

I really want to see what the new forum skin will look like.

Any previews?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Here you go Audioboxer. :)

Quite simple in fact. :p

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain(neowin.net) {
  #container {
	width: auto !important;
	margin: 0 25px !important;
  }
}

Luckily there's no #container on the forums, so it works perfectly.

Also interesting to add is this fix for the horizontal rules between news articles being overlapped by news images (floating at the right) for short news articles. This is a problem which may occur quite often when you have so much space on your screen. :)

  #content-main .hr {
	clear: both !important;
  }

Enjoy! :)

EDIT: Damn, can't believe I actually missed that. :p

EDIT2: Well, that user script could use some modification. Please check my code above for a more interesting way to get a real fluid width. Also, this user scripts affects the forums too, which isn't very interesting. To fix this, remove the "/*resize*/" section and insert my code. Other than that, good work on giving more padding, looks more appealing and easier to read. :)

Thanks guys.

They don't make it much wider, but it's an improvement anyway (Y)

[Matrix XII]

I think it looks great guys, well done on the hard work!

It makes me proud to support Neowin and post when it's one of the best looking sites/forums on the web :D

[shakey_snake]

Well actually anything can be blocked

sure, with stylish.

[.KICK]

As has been stated several times in this thread (feel like I keep repeating myself) the forums will be changed to the new design but it's expected the width will remain like the forums are now as we do not have any major design constraints on the forums.

No offence but if its close, would've been better to wait till the forum skin was ready and release at the same time? Would've stopped people asking when the forum skin is coming also.

[tomwarren Veteran]

No offence but if its close, would've been better to wait till the forum skin was ready and release at the same time? Would've stopped people asking when the forum skin is coming also.

Yes but we felt we needed to get this design out asap as we are about to undergo a major writing spree on the site for unique content.

OK fixed bugs guys, comments on the news now go to the right place. Titles of the news articles are now in the window bar up top. You can now refresh the new forum posts by hitting the little refresh icon.

There's still work to be done but we hope these improvements fix some of the bugs reported.

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

Thanks for that creamhackered, especially the refresh forum posts icon, it was sort of defunct previously, sitting there looking pretty :)

Will the old functionality ever re-appear though that I requested earlier where it will auto-refresh itself? That feature was invaluable for me, and to others it seems on a re-read of the entire thread.

(Y)

[Guest]

Great work on the design!

One small suggestion though, could yous add a "scroll down" link to the comments area, for when there is a large list of comments?

[kalizar]

omfug i love it!

but seriously nice work guys. i was so suprised when i opened up the site today.

[Farstrider]

Yes but we felt we needed to get this design out asap as we are about to undergo a major writing spree on the site for unique content.

OK fixed bugs guys, comments on the news now go to the right place. Titles of the news articles are now in the window bar up top. You can now refresh the new forum posts by hitting the little refresh icon.

There's still work to be done but we hope these improvements fix some of the bugs reported.

This is still not working, for me anyway! Nothing happens when I click on the refresh button?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

This is still not working, for me anyway! Nothing happens when I click on the refresh button?

It appears to be working for me.

[Farstrider]

It appears to be working for me.

That's nice Gary, I am glad for you, but it is not working for me! Promise that I am not fibbing! :whistle:

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

That's nice Gary, I am glad for you, but it is not working for me! Promise that I am not fibbing! :whistle:

Have you tried using an unconditional refresh? (Ctrl + F5)

[tomwarren Veteran]

clear your cache and possibly cookies and then try again :) it works I promise! As for the auto refresh I think the idea was to move away from that as in terms of usability you go to click on something and then it moves down the page a line and you click on the wrong topic :) Also, mouse manufacturers have asked us if we can ensure people click as then they can sell more mice.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

stop complaining about the ads, because without the ads, neowin wouldn't be here, so just accept it!

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

realistically though the posts dont update that quick that you will click on the wrong link, maybe do a poll if it should be brought back, as I would rather have it back auto than constantly click to refresh. There is more usability in having it auto than not as it is more user friendly for the end user. Plus if you remember you could turn it on or off or pause it in the last theme iteration, so why not just bring the option back to have it auto refresh or not?

[Farstrider]

clear your cache and possibly cookies and then try again :) it works I promise! As for the auto refresh I think the idea was to move away from that as in terms of usability you go to click on something and then it moves down the page a line and you click on the wrong topic :) Also, mouse manufacturers have asked us if we can ensure people click as then they can sell more mice.

Thanks boet, did what you suggested, but still does bugger all! Oh well, what can you do....?

[Smigit]

As has been stated several times in this thread (feel like I keep repeating myself) the forums will be changed to the new design but it's expected the width will remain like the forums are now as we do not have any major design constraints on the forums.

Might I ask what design restraints are preventing the front page being a tad more fluid in it's resizing?

[»X«]

stop complaining about the ads, because without the ads, neowin wouldn't be here, so just accept it!

So the ad could cover half the screen and we can't complain about it?

There is so much design talent on Neowin. Shame there can't be a competition to design our own theme, the winner gets to actually have it used.

[Reacon]

stop complaining about the ads, because without the ads, neowin wouldn't be here, so just accept it!

Yes, but they don't have to be so in-the-way. Think about it, the old Neowin was much better at ad placement, and it managed to still exist WITHOUT distracting our eyes every two seconds.

They should AT LEAST take out that damn square ad for subscribers...