raskren Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Someone should email this article to Mark Russinovich. I bet he can get to the bottom of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590095890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 And when I posted it here and on AskVG.com long time back, a few ppl told that its a hoax and doesnt work. ;) It is. It's been confirmed from Microsoft themselves that that doesn't do anything. It already uses your full amount of cores on boot except for a few seconds where it doesn't need it and it wouldn't benifit from having both+ enabled. It's a hoax 100% Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590095926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevember Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 may be Windows is able to autodetect the number of cores only after the boot is ended, so this option allows the boot process to be informed about the number of cores and start the boot process in parallel mode? but why Microsoft didn't enable this option automatically? why the boot process doesn't read the number of cores from the hardware config saved in the registry? This is a mistery... No, any detecting software needs to be loaded and run therefore slowing booting, so best presume one core get on with it, if chance of predefining based on later detection great idea. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590095930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I sent Mark an email and pointed him at this forum topic. We'll see... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590095972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 yes this needs to be cleared up, last I heard from anyone who actually knows what their talking about this has no affect on boot time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590096012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercellus Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I sent Mark an email and pointed him at this forum topic. We'll see... This should be interesting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590096020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Mark Russinovich replied to my email. He requested that I not post the entire email exchange verbatim, so I'll paraphrase. In my email I suggested that these tweaks were totally useless. Mark agreed and added that they are "incorrect and potentially damaging guidance" and that the "[series] will be pulled." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590100120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nic- Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Mine was already set to 2? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590100190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiwai Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I have a quad core, set it to 4 processors and rebooted. Didnt notice any increased performance, but I let it stay like that anyway..thanx I'd probably say that one will get alot more benefits with Windows 7 given that they've parallelised alot more of the start up sequence. I guess one will only really see major benefits when it comes to systems with alot of services loading at boot up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercellus Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Mark Russinovich replied to my email. He requested that I not post the entire email exchange verbatim, so I'll paraphrase.In my email I suggested that these tweaks were totally useless. Mark agreed and added that they are "incorrect and potentially damaging guidance" and that the "[series] will be pulled." Haha, nice! I figured he'd say something like that, he is a very smart fellow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted November 9, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2008 If it's a hoax then why is it still up? Of course, I'm not implying that it's true/untrue. I'm simply asking. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted November 9, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2008 This is very embarassing that something so blatantly wrong got up on a microsoft.com server. I (and others like MarkRus) are contacting the owners of this content to get it removed. This setting has NO IMPACT on boot performance, except to limit it to make your system artifically SLOWER by disabling processors. This exists for debugging purposes only (for example, developers use this setting to test their applications/drivers in a simulated single core environment if they have a multi-core CPU). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercellus Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 This is very embarassing that something so blatantly wrong got up on a microsoft.com server. I (and others like MarkRus) are contacting the owners of this content to get it removed.This setting has NO IMPACT on boot performance, except to limit it to make your system artifically SLOWER by disabling processors. This exists for debugging purposes only (for example, developers use this setting to test their applications/drivers in a simulated single core environment if they have a multi-core CPU). What I'd love to know is how this was published in the first place; was it written by someone who manages the knowledge base itself or was it written by an MVP? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted November 9, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2008 What I'd love to know is how this was published in the first place; was it written by someone who manages the knowledge base itself or was it written by an MVP? I don't know, but I'm sure the appropriate people will look into how this happened and take steps to prevent similar errors in the future. In the meantime, please don't alter this or any related settings as you could potentially hinder the operation of your machine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkz Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 WTF am i special or what? i couldn't live with the fact i'm proven wrong, so i double checked. when advanced boot options looks like this (deselected checkbox, showing 1, like it was when i first opened it) my system boots in 1min when it looks like that it boots in 51secs. offcourse these times are not entirely accurate, cause i still have to activate/deactivate the chronometer, but it still *boots faster* someone could perform the same test and videotape it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Remember that during boot, the major bottleneck is the hard drive, as it needs to load a heck of a lot of data from that.Getting a faster hard drive will give you a much bigger boost than using more than one core. exactly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 mine boots exactly the same speed with this... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 This is very embarassing that something so blatantly wrong got up on a microsoft.com server. I (and others like MarkRus) are contacting the owners of this content to get it removed.This setting has NO IMPACT on boot performance, except to limit it to make your system artifically SLOWER by disabling processors. This exists for debugging purposes only (for example, developers use this setting to test their applications/drivers in a simulated single core environment if they have a multi-core CPU). mine boots exactly the same speed with this... .... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted November 9, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2008 WTF am i special or what? i couldn't live with the fact i'm proven wrong, so i double checked. when advanced boot options looks like this (deselected checkbox, showing 1, like it was when i first opened it) my system boots in 1min when it looks like that it boots in 51secs. offcourse these times are not entirely accurate, cause i still have to activate/deactivate the chronometer, but it still *boots faster* someone could perform the same test and videotape it Boot time can be inconsistent. Any difference you measured is likely random, and certainly has nothing to do with this setting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkz Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Boot time can be inconsistent. Any difference you measured is likely random, and certainly has nothing to do with this setting. then why does it happen two times in a row, with about exactly the same improvements? did you measure by yourself? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590101824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 you do realize Brandon Live works for microsoft and probably knows what he's talking about right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590102390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 you do realize Brandon Live works for microsoft and probably knows what he's talking about right? the guys that wrote this article probably work at ms too :p I do have faith in Brandon but, however it may be possible that the setting is working for that user. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590102444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 you do realize Brandon Live works for microsoft and probably knows what he's talking about right? And this article is from a Microsoft KB. Sometimes it seems some guys from Microsoft don't really know what they are talking about, one way or another, including Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer :laugh: Personally, since I mostly keep up my Vista machine 24/7, so any increase in boot time doesn't really matter to me anyway. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590102522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkz Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 you do realize Brandon Live works for microsoft and probably knows what he's talking about right? and that means he's an unbeatable ****ing authority right? better go measure it yourself and report the results, i don't really give a **** where any of you work as long as you don't care about me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590102580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercellus Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am confident that Brandon knows what he is talking about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/693566-new-kb959233-speeding-up-windows-vista/page/3/#findComment-590102590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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