FANTASTIC: Windows 7 Build 6956 new boot screen video

[Calum Veteran]

Since when different colors means less protection?? Wow.... :wacko:

Still, I'm getting more and more afraid that Win7 will be nothing more than Vista with some polish interface (taskbar,...) and a speedup that Vista SP2 will probably get. I'm running Vista SP2 and it's better speedwise.

I wonder if it's going to be enough to pay Again....

I think the new taskbar (and the many features / UI changes included within it), desktop slideshow, federation searching, Aero Peek, ribbon interface included in WordPad and Paint, new calculator, full touchscreen support, UI consistency updates (especially the old font dialog :p) and just the general speed and Aero glass improvements are enough to class Windows 7 as a major release. I mean what else could be changed, except updating the kernal?

If the kernal was updated to a new major version, this would mean the compatibility problems which plagued Windows Vista's release would be present in Windows 7's release. Do we, or anybody else, need the kernal updated in Windows 7? No.

The only other things I can see that should be included in Windows 7 is a tabbed Windows Explorer, an updated Notepad and removal of Windows Internet Explorer. Ok, that last one was a joke, but I wish it was true :D

Again, however, how is Windows 7 not a major release?

[Digitalx]

I think the new taskbar (and the many features / UI changes included within it), desktop slideshow, federation searching, Aero Peek, ribbon interface included in WordPad and Paint, new calculator, full touchscreen support, UI consistency updates (especially the old font dialog :p) and just the general speed and Aero glass improvements are enough to class Windows 7 as a major release. I mean what else could be changed, except updating the kernal?

If the kernal was updated to a new major version, this would mean the compatibility problems which plagued Windows Vista's release would be present in Windows 7's release. Do we, or anybody else, need the kernal updated in Windows 7? No.

The only other things I can see that should be included in Windows 7 is a tabbed Windows Explorer, an updated Notepad and removal of Windows Internet Explorer. Ok, that last one was a joke, but I wish it was true :D

Again, however, how is Windows 7 not a major release?

Maybe it's more of a question of why these couldn't have been added to Vista SP2 etc ?

I mean i like 7 and all, but it seems like some of these features are really clawing at the sides just to make it seem like a major release kind of...

[sharp65]

LoL colors have nothing to do with protection, come on now that just doesn't even make sense. It's more of the fact that it's still a pre-beta and none of the icons are final.

[George P Global Moderator]

Because Service Packs don't add features. Just SP2 for XP did, and was the first. Aside from the small compatibility updates and support for some new tech like bluetooth 2.1 support etc, SPs don't add nothing else.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Maybe it's more of a question of why these couldn't have been added to Vista SP2 etc ?

Are you serious? Please tell me that's a joke.

I mean, why wasn't every Windows 95 feature just included in Windows 3.11 Service Pack 1? Why wasn't Windows 2000 just an NT4 service pack?

Why doesn't Adobe release CS4 as a free update for CS3 users?

Why doesn't Audi replace my 2008 TT with a 2009 one for free?

[Calum Veteran]

Are you serious? Please tell me that's a joke.

I mean, why wasn't every Windows 95 feature just included in Windows 3.11 Service Pack 1? Why wasn't Windows 2000 just an NT4 service pack?

Why doesn't Adobe release CS4 as a free update for CS3 users?

Why doesn't Audi replace my 2008 TT with a 2009 one for free?

Hahahah!

Nicely put, Brandon! Nicely put! :p

[Ambroos]

Are you serious? Please tell me that's a joke.

I mean, why wasn't every Windows 95 feature just included in Windows 3.11 Service Pack 1? Why wasn't Windows 2000 just an NT4 service pack?

Why doesn't Adobe release CS4 as a free update for CS3 users?

Why doesn't Audi replace my 2008 TT with a 2009 one for free?

^^

BTW, Thurrott's screenies aren't 6956. He's missing some new icons that definately are in 6956.

[Jayayess1190]

Here is a video that shows the full boot up to log in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzFDuzGB09I

[franzon]

Since when different colors means less protection?? Wow.... :wacko:

In Win7 when you click on these blue shields you don't get any UAC prompts and the Secure Desktop is also disabled by default. So Win7 is less secure than Vista, by default. :crazy:

Stupid people complained that UAC is annoying, Microsoft listened to these stupid people and now we'll get a less secure OS...

Edited December 7, 2008 by franzon

[Jackalito]

I'm just wondering why it took so long to load the os in the video...

[DrCheese]

In Win7 when you click on these blue shields you don't get any UAC prompts and the Secure Desktop is also disabled by default. So Win7 is less secure than Vista, by default. :crazy:

Stupid people complained that UAC is annoying, Microsoft listened to these stupid people and now we'll get a less secure OS...

No. Microsoft listened to it's customers and realised that the majority of people find it annoying. You have to have a balance between security and ease of use and in this case secure desktop looses out. There is nothing stopping you modifying the settings and turning it back on.

[George P Global Moderator]

Win7's default UAC setting is just one step below what it is for Vista iirc. That is minor stuff that would bring up UAC before when you went to change like, say your display settings or something, won't bring up UAC now.

They've tweaked it so it can more or less tell that a user is making a change as apposed to some hidden program/virus trying to. You can still turn it up all the way and have it prompt you for everything like before though.

[Ci7]

Maybe it's more of a question of why these couldn't have been added to Vista SP2 etc ?

you cant make money from a service pack ,

the same reason goes for osx 10.6 shouldn't they release it as service pack for 10.5 user ? NO in the same sense !

[MrChainsaw]

Wow, I love it, looks great.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

In Win7 when you click on these blue shields you don't get any UAC prompts and the Secure Desktop is also disabled by default. So Win7 is less secure than Vista, by default. :crazy:

Stupid people complained that UAC is annoying, Microsoft listened to these stupid people and now we'll get a less secure OS...

Please at least wait for the actual beta release before jumping to conclusions.

[roadgeek9]

Very cool boot screen. Better than Vista's (default).

[fix-this!]

that looks pretty cool

+1

of course you can change vista's boot screen to whatever you want. ;)

[crazlunatic]

certainly a lot of hype over a boot screen xD. it does look great but was actually not smooth when I had it going

[Quillz]

No. Microsoft listened to it's customers and realised that the majority of people find it annoying. You have to have a balance between security and ease of use and in this case secure desktop looses out. There is nothing stopping you modifying the settings and turning it back on.

No. Microsoft listened to its customers and realized that the majority of people need UAC, but don't need as many prompts as Vista generated. Windows 7's UAC is still as secure as it was in Vista, but minor things that clearly don't require prompts (like renaming your hard drive, for example) will no longer prompt you.

The belief that Windows 7 is somehow less secure than Windows Vista by design is a complete falsehood.

[scrtsqurrl]

So what was Microsoft's excuse for not doing a proper boot screen for Vista again? :laugh:

[Quillz]

So what was Microsoft's excuse for not doing a proper boot screen for Vista again? :laugh:

Microsoft was getting concerned about the number of OEMs and third party developers adding their own "boot screens" onto the boot screens of prior Windows versions, as this was obviously causing slowdown during the boot process. Microsoft greatly encouraged developers to stop this practice, and to practice what they preach, Microsoft decided to do a very basic, "only show what's necessary, etc." boot screen. The progress bar and copyright information against a black background; this was all intentional.

Microsoft jazzed up the boot screen in Windows 7 likely to confirm that in fact, yes, your operating system is booting. I know my parents sometimes thought their computer froze when they saw how bare the Vista boot screen was, and I reckon that they weren't alone, as people were used to seeing more "pretty" boot screens.

[scrtsqurrl]

Thanks Quillz. So the vanilla boot was 'by design'. :ermm:

[Quillz]

Thanks Quillz. So the vanilla boot was 'by design'. :ermm:

Yes. When it first appeared in a pre-Beta 1 build, many people felt it was just "filler" while Microsoft designed the real boot screen. But in fact, Microsoft intentionally designed it, again, to practice what they preach.

And as I'm sure everyone knows, going into msconfig and checking "No GUI Boot" will use an alternate, Aurora-like boot screen, instead. This boot screen is arguably more of a "GUI" than the standard one.

[qdave]

this is nice but having a progress bar wouldnt hurt either.

[PGHammer]

I'm sorry, and I really don't mean to threadcrap, but why do you guys really care what a bootscreen looks like?

I reboot my box about every patch tuesday, and that's really it. It takes about 20 seconds.

Knives could stab me in the eyeballs that often and I wouldn't care. :laugh:

Name a *single* decent bootscreen in an NT-based Windows since pre-SP2 Windows XP. (I've you've seen any SP2+ build of XP bootscreen, you'll realize I'm not kidding.) If you want a decent bootscreen post-SP2, you have to go third-party. Vista has less than even OS X as far as a bootscreen goes, let alone most distributions of Linux. It used to be you could tell varants of Windows NT apart by their bootscreens (even all the way back to Server 3.5); that is no longer the case - they are all uniform (and uniformly hyperminimalist). Even if every SKU of 7 gets this bootscreen, it would be nice to actually have SOME eye-candy when Windows NT starts again!