jgreenough Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Love him or hate him he does tend to have a knack for some of these things but April 2009 !! that really is a bit too soon - though i'd love it to be true http://windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrott/article/articleid/100963/wininfo-short-takes-week-of-december-5-2008.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Gun Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 My predictions on the Windows 7 release dateThere's been a lot of speculation about when Microsoft would ship Windows 7, its eagerly awaited follow-up to Windows Vista. So far, I've suggested that the company would ship Windows 7 far earlier than most people thought. But now I'm ready to make a number of more specific predictions myself, and add to the speculation. It's pretty widely known that Microsoft will ship a beta release (and a public one at that) of Windows 7 in January. This beta will be the only beta and it will be followed by a single release candidate build, and then the final version, all in quick succession. I expect Windows 7 to be finalized by April 2009 at the latest, and to be completed simultaneously with Windows Vista/Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 (SP2), which is also due in April. (Windows 7 and SP2 share more code than people realize as well, by the way.) Windows 7 will be made broadly available to consumers and business customers no later than June 2009. And those, folks, are my predictions for the release of Windows 7. Wow! I hope we dont find so many bugs on the beta in january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmanx21 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Sinofsky at his finest. This is great news and it seems that all is well considering this was a pre-beta and is was pretty solid, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_ Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It might perhaps go out to OEMs etc in April, but I think that's WAY too soon. In fact if it were to come out that soon i'd be very suspicious of the quality.... they can't afford to have another vista on their hands. Although saying that, 7 is more of a Vista R2, basically just fixing up all the shoddy work they rushed out then, so a lot of the work is already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profets Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 maybe it'll be ready for RTM at that time.. anyway considernig that 6801 is a prebeta its been quite stable. been using it for a month and been quite surprising also.. seems that win7 is building a lot on the big changes that vista brough, and since vista rtm'd 2 years ago they have had quite a bit of time to do a lot of work and improvements that we've seen recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted December 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 5, 2008 Love him or hate him he does tend to have a knack for some of these things but April 2009 !! that really is a bit too soon - though i'd love it to be truehttp://windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrott/article/articleid/100963/wininfo-short-takes-week-of-december-5-2008.html I get an error from Neowin when I click on your link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It might perhaps go out to OEMs etc in April, but I think that's WAY too soon. In fact if it were to come out that soon i'd be very suspicious of the quality.... they can't afford to have another vista on their hands.Although saying that, 7 is more of a Vista R2, basically just fixing up all the shoddy work they rushed out then, so a lot of the work is already done. Vista was fine. It was third parties who didn't update their drivers and programs that was the problem. Paul's prediction isn't too far off. Microsoft was quoted at one point of estimating sometime around June 9, 2009, and this prediction would meet that date. Build 6801, in the time that I've used it, has proven to be very reliable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I get an error from Neowin when I click on your link. click on this one instead http://windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrot...ber-5-2008.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted December 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 5, 2008 click on this one insteadhttp://windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrot...ber-5-2008.html Thanks, I don't believe that he is correct on the release date of Windows 7 but he has nailed the part about if Microsoft build cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 that sounds way to early i'd have guessed more august time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think he is correct, Microsoft it seems has learned from the Vista debacle and is pushing full steam ahead with Windows 7. Also I believe they are in a hurry to undermine Apple and their release of Snow Leopard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think he is correct, Microsoft it seems has learned from the Vista debacle and is pushing full steam ahead with Windows 7. Also I believe they are in a hurry to undermine Apple and their release of Snow Leopard.... Why? Snow Leopard will do for Mac OS X what Vista already did for Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 that sounds way to early i'd have guessed more august time. I thought so too, but he does have a point. Only one beta and then one RC, doe point to an earlier RTM. But he does say it won't be released until June. Sort like Vista (RTM in Nov; released in Jan). Paul may be right on the money with this one. M3 is pretty rock solid IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Why? Snow Leopard will do for Mac OS X what Vista already did for Windows. Actually Snow Leopard is exactly what Vista was not. 10.6 is performance oriented and not GUI oriented as was Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) Think Windows 98SE... or Vista R2. Thats how I feel 7 will be... Vista's annoyances tweaked with a new taskbar. I also feel its way too soon... but I could see an April 2009 release happening, providing there are no major major additions from here on. Edited December 5, 2008 by shockz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Actually Snow Leopard is exactly what Vista was not. 10.6 is performance oriented and not GUI oriented as was Vista. Not quite. Vista made many major improvements to the kernel and underlying framework, as will Snow Leopard. And Vista also brought hardware acceleration to the user interface (by utilizing the GPU instead of the CPU), as will Snow Leopard. Thus, Vista is very similar to Snow Leopard, in terms of why it was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I also feel its way too soon... but I could see an April 2007 release happening, Hmm wrong number me thinks :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChainsaw Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 What? April 2009? Well I don't think I'll get UNLESS I get it free like I got vista through some MS event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hmm wrong number me thinks :p Wow. LOL. I'm not sure why I did that. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It sound early based upon the Vista development schedule but we all know how much of a disaster that was (the development, not the product). The reality is that the internals aren't being redesigned but streamlined and tweaked. There was only a year and a half between Windows 2000 and XP and the difference between Vista and Win7 is looking to be closer to two and a half years. The emphasis has really changed and there is no reason that Microsoft can't deliver a substantially improved operating system in the timeframe provided. I just hope that the feature list is considerably improved or the price is considerably dropped because, despite the clearly progress, I'm not convinced of its value at present. At least I hope there will be a cheap upgrade option for Vista users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Not quite. Vista made many major improvements to the kernel and underlying framework, as will Snow Leopard. Those improvements were mainly "slow as hell" file I/O and scheduler problems which affected audio and network to name a few. Most have probably been addressed already, but as it came out, it certainly wasn't an improvement in performance. And Vista also brought hardware acceleration to the user interface (by utilizing the GPU instead of the CPU), as will Snow Leopard. Thus, Vista is very similar to Snow Leopard, in terms of why it was created. You're confusing things there. The GPU accelerated interface has been in OSX for years and years, Snow Leopard is going to support the OpenCL standard, a much more advanced concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 When I read his article it says FINALIZED " I expect Windows 7 to be finalized by April 2009 at the latest, and to be completed simultaneously with Windows Vista/Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 (SP2), which is also due in April. (Windows 7 and SP2 share more code than people " which means the RTM code is signed off on, that doesn't mean you can purchase it at that time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Those improvements were mainly "slow as hell" file I/O and scheduler problems which affected audio and network to name a few. Most have probably been addressed already, but as it came out, it certainly wasn't an improvement in performance. Seriously, is that all you can come up with for the "main improvements"? Sheesh, at least try some impartiality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted December 5, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 5, 2008 When I read his article it says FINALIZED" I expect Windows 7 to be finalized by April 2009 at the latest, and to be completed simultaneously with Windows Vista/Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 (SP2), which is also due in April. (Windows 7 and SP2 share more code than people " which means the RTM code is signed off on, that doesn't mean you can purchase it at that time... From the source: Windows 7 will be made broadly available to consumers and business customers no later than June 2009. And those, folks, are my predictions for the release of Windows 7. Sounds to me that he means it will be available for purchase in his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John Teacake MVC Posted December 5, 2008 MVC Share Posted December 5, 2008 He does say predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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