Bear Grylls Injured After Antarctic Fall


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Ok, so you tell me how we survived this long without this fantastic tv show then!

Dear oh dear :no:

Us?

Because we're not in any of the situations, we're in our homes on our PC's.

Your ignorance is reaching alarming levels.

Many people die year on year being in situations Grylls is in. Stranded in deserts, lost in jungles, etc.

Instinct does not substitute knowledge.

You need both if you're to survive genuinely bleak situations.

I'm not trying to say Grylls savez livezz!!11

But jeeez, putting down every single piece of knowledge in the show is just sad, because it's a fact you just do not know all that kind of stuff from birth.

oh em gee...

AB, rethink your arguement please!

Your ignorance is the alarming one here as you obviously never studied history/geography in any great detail! I'm talking about thousands and thousands of years ago when survival was every day life in every part of the world. We didn't have fricking Bear Grylls and his tv show to tell us and humans made it this far!

Jeez louise..

oh em gee...

AB, rethink your arguement please!

Your ignorance is the alarming one here as you obviously never studied history/geography in any great detail! I'm talking about thousands and thousands of years ago when survival was every day life in every part of the world. We didn't have fricking Bear Grylls and his tv show to tell us and humans made it this far!

Jeez louise..

This isn't thousands of years ago though, so I have no idea what basis your point holds.

You're acting like we, the viewers of the show should have this knowledge because our ancestors did.

We don't because we aren't being brought up in the same era/living conditions. Why would school need to teach us how to survive in a jungle, were thousands of years ago inhabitants living in jungles would've needed that knowledge as mandatory, we don't.

Fact is, the majority of us would just simply die when put into these bleak situations.

So dousing Grylls knowledge is ignorant, because we don't know half the stuff he does, and we wouldn't be able to survive in scenarios prompted by him due to our lack of knowledge.

If you live in a city, or live like most of us you probably won't ever need to know what he knows, but as I said it just makes you ignorant to call it all out because you don't think you'll need it.

Saying everything he teaches is instinctual is incorrect, you'd know that if you watched his work.

What exactly is the arguement?

His show is educational and entertaining. Yes, people have survived without him and the TV for many, many years. But a lot of that knowledge has been lost in civilized areas because we don't need them today. This show teaches people the different survival techniques that your average Joe would have never known. Sure, he may never need to use these techniques in his life time, but it's still neat to know.

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Ok you are completely missing the point. How many of the things do you think Bear actually discovered and is teaching for the first time?

He isn't teaching anything new here, he is using a different medium to pass knowledge on. If you want to get really picky, he's not even the first person to do it on tv either!

I can see it now, AB lost in the woods

"thank god I watched that Bear Grylls show last week, or hell would I know to look in the river for fish or under this rock for some worms!"

:no:

Ok you are completely missing the point. How many of the things do you think Bear actually discovered and is teaching for the first time?

He isn't teaching anything new here, he is using a different medium to pass knowledge on. If you want to get really picky, he's not even the first person to do it on tv either!

I can see it now, AB lost in the woods

"thank god I watched that Bear Grylls show last week, or hell would I know to look in the river for fish or under this rock for some worms!"

:no:

Does it matter?

How many teachers in the world in University's are teaching things for the first time? How many people in jobs are training others stuff never trained before? How many Army sergeants are teaching soldiers how to fire guns which have never been fired before, or survive in a war?

You need knowledge to be passed on by individuals, whether it's been discovered by them or not. It really doesn't matter.

The world runs on people with knowledge sharing it with others lacking in it, regardless of where it's come from, if it's being taught for the first time, or if 8,000,000 people know about it.

And that comment at the end, just shows how pathetic you're being in this topic.

@ Rappy, Lets just get back to "get better soon" :p

Like it even matters, its a broken shoulder. He should shrug it off with his super duper SAS trainingz!!1! :p

@AB, well I don't know what stone age course you're learning, but I have plenty of new technology to learn about in my course (Y)

I forgot though, your opinion > *. Bear Grylls is god etc etc.

I'm not being pathetic at all, maybe you just need to use common sense for once!

Does it matter?

How many teachers in the world in University's are teaching things for the first time? How many people in jobs are training others stuff never trained before? How many Army sergeants are teaching soldiers how to fire guns which have never been fired before, or survive in a war?

You need knowledge to be passed on by individuals, whether it's been discovered by them or not. It really doesn't matter.

The world runs on people with knowledge sharing it with others lacking in it, regardless of where it's come from, if it's being taught for the first time, or if 8,000,000 people know about it.

And that comment at the end, just shows how pathetic you're being in this topic.

Agree wholeheartedly. It really is a stupid discussion, this man is on a TV show that is meant for entertainment and nothing else. People try to make a big deal out of it calling him a fraud, trickster, etc, but what he is doing is providing quality entertainment for viewers of the show and passing along a thing or two in the process. Like it or not Bear Grylls is a tough guy, he holds many "record" titles, and I don't see why the other guy in this thread so ardently hates his show.

To say he is a fraud would mean that he is nothing of what he says he is or knowledgeable in what he preaches on TV, when indeed he is. Look him up and look at what he did and the ranks he earned, and then say he's a fraud.

@AB, well I don't know what stone age course you're learning, but I have plenty of new technology to learn about in my course (Y)

I forgot though, your opinion > *. Bear Grylls is god etc etc.

I'm not being pathetic at all, maybe you just need to use common sense for once!

Yes, you're learning about new technology discovered by others, taught by your tutors. I guess your tutors are wortheless because they didn't discover the technology? No, you yourself would be worthless on your course without your tutors.

Just like I hypothetically speaking would be worthless stranded in the middle of a desert unless someone with knowledge had helped me. That could be anyone with the knowledge, just in this case some of it could've came from Bear Grylls. The knowledge he's teaching is helpful/correct/life saving, the method it's presented in may be structured/artificially made/presented in TV fashion, but that doesn't make the knowledge any less correct.

Your history teacher probably taught you about guns/war/torture, I'm sure she didn't re-enact it 1:1 in class.

These people are the passage of knowledge between you and what you're learning, that's the most important thing.

I never said Bear Grylls is god, again you're getting frustrated and saying silly things.

I have a respect for the guy as he's very knowledgeable in his field, and teenagers/young adults sitting behind their computers dissing the guy like some of you are is just plain and simply pathetic.

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good!

cant stand this bloke, he knows sod all about anything...

he just eats anything that moves even wen he doesnt need to!

all he is about is the shock factor of seeing sum1 eat a live frog on tv.

And heeeeere we go again... another huge dollop of ignorance.

Military

After leaving school, Grylls went climbing in the Himalayan mountains of Sikkim and West Bengal. He then joined the British Army's Special Forces reserve, serving for three years as a Specialist Combat Survival Instructor and Patrol Medic with the 21 SAS regiment. His military service ended in 1997 due to a parachuting accident he suffered the previous year during a training exercise in Kenya. His canopy ripped at 16,000 feet (4500 m), partially opening, causing him to fall and land on his parachute pack on his back, which broke three vertebrae, and left him struggling to feel his legs. Grylls later said of the accident, "I should have cut the main parachute and gone to the reserve but thought there was time to resolve the problem". Grylls spent the next 18 months in rehabilitation at Headley Court and, with his military service over, directed his efforts into trying to get well enough to fulfill his childhood dream of climbing Mount Everest.

Grylls has since been awarded the honorary rank of Lieutenant Commander in the UK's Royal Naval Reserve for services to both charity and human endeavour.

Feats and Record attempts

Grylls has been involved in several solo, and team based feats, and attempts for charity or record breaking.

By land

Ama Dablam

Grylls first entered the record books in 1997 by being the youngest Briton to summit Ama Dablam in the Himalayas with his good friend Colm Keaveney , a peak famously described by Sir Edmund Hillary as "unclimbable".

Everest

In 1998, Grylls achieved a Guinness World Record as the youngest Briton, at 23, to summit Mount Everest. However, James Allen, an Australian/British climber who ascended Everest in 1995 with an Australian team, but who has dual citizenship, beat him to the summit at age 22. Since then, British climber Rhys Jones reached the summit on his 20th birthday in May 2006.

In an interview with David Letterman (June 2007), Letterman calls him "the youngest Briton to summit Everest" and Bear corrects him by saying another man, Michael Matthews, did it the following year but died on the way down, and, regardless of his death, it has become this man's record.

By sea

Circumnavigation of the UK

In 2000, Grylls, with his friend Neil Laughton, was among the first team to circumnavigate the UK on a personal watercraft or jet ski, to raise money for the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI).

Crossing the North Atlantic

Three years later, he led a team of five British men on the first unassisted crossing of the north Atlantic Arctic Ocean, in an open rigid inflatable boat. The team battled giant waves, polar bears, icebergs and storms.

By air

Paramotoring over Angel Falls

In 2005, Grylls led the first team ever to attempt to paramotor over the remote jungle plateau of the Angel Falls in Venezuela. The team was attempting to reach the highest, most remote high tepuis, made famous by Conan Doyle's Lost World.

Dinner party at altitude

In 2005, alongside balloonist and mountaineer David Hempleman-Adams and Lieutenant Commander Alan Veal, leader of the Royal Navy Freefall Parachute Display Team, Bear Grylls created a world record for the highest ever open-air formal dinner party, which they did under a hot air balloon at 25,000 feet, dressed in full Mess dress and oxygen masks. To train for the event, Bear made over 200 parachute jumps. This was in aid of the The Duke of Edinburgh's Award and The Prince's Trust.

Paramotoring over the Himalayas

In 2007, Grylls claimed to have broken a new world record by flying a paramotor over the Himalayas, higher than Mount Everest (original claim, "over Mount Everest", and after being challenged, "above Everest" on his website).

His report of the flight described coping with temperatures of −60 ?C and dangerously low oxygen levels to reach 29,500 feet, almost 10,000 feet higher than the previous record of 20,019 feet.

The expedition raised over $2 million for children's charities worldwide including Global Angels. Grylls described the expedition, filmed for Discovery Channel worldwide as well as Channel 4 in the UK, as "the hairiest, most frightening thing" he had ever done.

While Grylls initially claimed that the flight was over Everest itself, the permit was only to fly to the south of Everest, and he did not approach Everest itself out of risk of violating Chinese airspace.

The pair took off from 14,500 feet, 8 miles south of the mountain. Grylls says he got within two miles of the famous peak during his ascent. From there, the mission website reports him "riding the wind into the record books".

"There are various formalities and rules. You need a proper flight recorder trace, an FAI license, you've got to take off from flat ground – you can't just take off from the side of a hill. You need to have a flight observer. If you don't, it's not a record" he added, "It's the responsibility of anybody who does anything ground-breaking to prove what they have done." He said that even if the instrument displays froze mid-flight, as Grylls wrote afterwards, it doesn't mean they stopped recording. "It may well be they've got a trace."

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Ok you are completely missing the point. How many of the things do you think Bear actually discovered and is teaching for the first time?

He isn't teaching anything new here, he is using a different medium to pass knowledge on. If you want to get really picky, he's not even the first person to do it on tv either!

I can see it now, AB lost in the woods

"thank god I watched that Bear Grylls show last week, or hell would I know to look in the river for fish or under this rock for some worms!"

:no:

Right. Now you're just punching thin air. Does it matter whether or not Bear actually discovered and taught anything for the first time? That doesn't even make sense :laugh:.

He's just passing his knowledge over the subject of survival in nature's harsh conditions and entertaining the audience with some awesome scenery. And I guarantee you that many of the things he discusses on his show are new to others. I learned a few things from watching it.

good!

cant stand this bloke, he knows sod all about anything...

he just eats anything that moves even wen he doesnt need to!

all he is about is the shock factor of seeing sum1 eat a live frog on tv.

:rofl: It certainly helped his ratings.

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I never said there was anything wrong with him passing on knowledge. Plenty of others have done it on tv in the past like I said. I just said you don't need to watch his show to survive. You do realise people get shipwrecked even in recent history, lost in all kinds of remote locations and they survive right?. Sure not everyone does, it really comes down to each individuals situation, especially if they are injured. No amount of eating grubs will help if you are losing **** loads of blood.

I do not need this tv show to know to eat fish and grubs though. I could easily survive out in wild without ever watching this show or any other similar style documentary. I might not know how to go about catching and killing wild life straight off the bat, but instinct will definitely kick in and I would find a way. When my life is on the line I wouldn't be giving up at the first hurdle. Humans are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

I'm not getting frustrated. I'm simply poniting out how absurd you are being that you really think you wouldn't stand a chance if you were out in the wild without watching Bear Grylls or any of the other documentaries (or shown by anyone for that matter).

To your last comment, if you're trying to insult me you're doing a poor effort. I never dissed the guy once and good for him if he was previously in the SAS/success of his show. I've put an arguement out there to discuss, thats not pathetic. I don't need SAS training to survive which was my first complaint to an earlier comment in the topic, and its true! :yes:

Hell, does that make everyone who watched his show SAS trained? It goes completely against that person's arguement if they learned how to survive eating live fish & bugs and should they ever have to use his teachings IRL. You've just proved anyone can do it! Give them a medal!

I never said there was anything wrong with him passing on knowledge. Plenty of others have done it on tv in the past like I said. I just said you don't need to watch his show to survive. You do realise people get shipwrecked even in recent history, lost in all kinds of remote locations and they survive right?. Sure not everyone does, it really comes down to each individuals situation, especially if they are injured. No amount of eating grubs will help if you are losing **** loads of blood.

I do not need this tv show to know to eat fish and grubs though. I could easily survive out in wild without ever watching this show or any other similar style documentary. I might not know how to go about catching and killing wild life straight off the bat, but instinct will definitely kick in and I would find a way. When my life is on the line I wouldn't be giving up at the first hurdle. Humans are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

I'm not getting frustrated. I'm simply poniting out how absurd you are being that you really think you wouldn't stand a chance if you were out in the wild without watching Bear Grylls or any of the other documentaries (or shown by anyone for that matter).

To your last comment, if you're trying to insult me you're doing a poor effort. I never dissed the guy once and good for him if he was previously in the SAS/success of his show. I've put an arguement out there to discuss, thats not pathetic. I don't need SAS training to survive which was my first complaint to an earlier comment in the topic, and its true! :yes:

Hell, does that make everyone who watched his show SAS trained? It goes completely against that person's arguement if they learned how to survive eating live fish & bugs and should they ever have to use his teachings IRL. Give them a medal!

You don't need to watch the show, but if you wanted to survive in these situations you'd need to learn your knowledge from elsewhere, or be very fortunate enough to survive without making any mistakes.

I do not need this tv show to know to eat fish and grubs though. I could easily survive out in wild without ever watching this show or any other similar style documentary. I might not know how to go about catching and killing wild life straight off the bat, but instinct will definitely kick in and I would find a way. When my life is on the line I wouldn't be giving up at the first hurdle. Humans are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

You still don't get the point. I seriously don't think you've ever watched the shows much, and this comment pretty much proves that.

They are about surviving in specific scenario's/specific areas where it's notoriously hard to. We're not talking about random jungles where food could be plentiful.

We are talking about some of the hardest places on earth, where it's known to be very difficult to survive.

If you think you can just waltz into some of these locations equipped with instinct and think you'll have a good chance think again. Even people with knowledge fail to survive in many of these locations.

I'm not getting frustrated. I'm simply poniting out how absurd you are being that you really think you wouldn't stand a chance if you were out in the wild without watching Bear Grylls or any of the other documentaries (or shown by anyone for that matter).

I'd stand somewhat of a chance like everyone, but as I said above many of the shows are area specifics, where there isn't high numbers of survival, and how to increase your chances in these areas.

To your last comment, if you're trying to insult me you're doing a poor effort. I never dissed the guy once and good for him if he was previously in the SAS/success of his show. I've put an arguement out there to discuss, thats not pathetic. I don't need SAS training to survive which was my first complaint to an earlier comment in the topic, and its true! :yes:

You commented that everything he taught is instinctual, that is insulting to him, as it's not.

Hell, does that make everyone who watched his show SAS trained? It goes completely against that person's arguement if they learned how to survive eating live fish & bugs and should they ever have to use his teachings IRL. Give them a medal!

Never said that (and the tone of that comment is pathetic). I've now seen you mention eating bugs about 1000 times, if again you actually watched the shows you'd know there's a lot more to it than that.

Summing his knowledge/show up as that is ignorant.

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So... wait... people are calling him a fraud when he has fallen from a mountain he was being filmed climbing...

So, some parts of his show were "staged".. Boo Hoo! Looking down your noise at him and calling him a fraud for that is a bit of an over reaction.

You don't need to watch the show, but if you wanted to survive in these situations you'd need to learn your knowledge from elsewhere, or be very fortunate enough to survive without making any mistakes.

No a lot of it is just common sense. I know that if I get wet clothes in the artic there is a huge/definite chance I will get hypothermia / frostbite. I know to stay away from thin ice and stay on solid ground. Seriously, it's not rocket science. This goes back to the ice age for pete sake!

You still don't get the point. I seriously don't think you've ever watched the shows much, and this comment pretty much proves that.

They are about surviving in specific scenario's/specific areas where it's notoriously hard to. We're not talking about random jungles where food could be plentiful.

We are talking about some of the hardest places on earth, where it's known to be very difficult to survive.

If you think you can just waltz into some of these locations equipped with instinct and think you'll have a good chance think again. Even people with knowledge fail to survive in many of these locations.

Well you are wrong because I have seen his show and others like it in the past. Like I said, it comes down to the specific person how they cope of course. I didn't say people have 100% success rate in these locations. You do not need this tv show to survive.

You commented that everything he taught is instinctual, that is insulting to him, as it's not.

Ok well if thats what you think, I guess I'm insulting him. You need a geography lesson or two, that much is evident (Y)

Never said that (and the tone of that comment is pathetic). I've now seen you mention eating bugs about 1000 times, if again you actually watched the shows you'd know there's a lot more to it than that.

Summing his knowledge/show up as that is ignorant.

I used that comment over and over again because someone else used it as an example earlier in the topic, and I'm pointing out why it's such a ridiculous claim to make.

No a lot of it is just common sense. I know that if I get wet clothes in the artic there is a huge/definite chance I will get hypothermia / frostbite. I know to stay away from thin ice and stay on solid ground. Seriously, it's not rocket science. This goes back to the ice age for pete sake!

Who dictates what common sense is when you're stuck in the middle of a desert? Most people have never been in a position like that, let alone even know/have spoken to anyone in that kind of position.

Does everyone in your course at University have the same levels of knowledge/skill?

And well done over simplifying the whole show again.

Some things are instinctual, somethings are not. The show revolves around BOTH those categories.

Well you are wrong because I have seen his show and others like it in the past. Like I said, it comes down to the specific person how they cope of course. I didn't say people have 100% success rate in these locations.

My point proven then. If success rate isn't 100%, and every person is on a different level of knowledge, shows/knowledge discussion like this help increase survival chances and educate people.

Ok well if thats what you think, I guess I'm insulting him. You need a geography lesson or two, that much is evident (Y)

So geography teaches you everything in his shows?

Even if that were the case, I didn't take geography in school, so what about people like me without the knowledge you supposedly have?

As I said earlier, we need many vessels of knowledge sharing it with people.

I used that comment over and over again because someone else used it as an example earlier in the topic, and I'm pointing out why it's such a ridiculous claim to make.

Someone with training at his level is always going to be more equipped than someone without.

If any of us "normal" people think we could out survive him in some of the scenarios presented in the shows, we'd probably fail.

Of course his chances are nowhere near 100% either, but knowledge is key to survival in many of the proposed scenarios.

All he's doing is passing on that knowledge to others, and calling him a fraud and throwing instinct/your geography lessons at him to downplay his field of knowledge/skill is just sad.

Who dictates what common sense is when you're stuck in the middle of a desert? Most people have never been in a position like that, let alone even know/have spoken to anyone in that kind of position.

Does everyone in your course at University have the same levels of knowledge/skill?

And well done over simplifying the whole show again.

Some things are instinctual, somethings are not. The show revolves around BOTH those categories.

Common sense is I need to eat if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere. I'm going to look for food any way I can. What else am I going to do, sit around and make sand castles?

No not everyone has the same knowledge, but I'd hope everyone knows they need food and water and will try a lot of different ideas where to find it! I never said people will go straight to the source of them, it's obviously going to be a learning experience if it ever happened.

And yes I'm summarising the show because I don't want to fill the topic with walls of text!

All he's doing is passing on that knowledge to others, and calling him a fraud and throwing instinct/your geography lessons at him to downplay his field of knowledge/skill is just sad.

Again you're assuming I said I know more than him? I never did that at all. I said a lot of it is common sense. I said his show was a fraud because he doesn't present the 100% truth what he does when filming.

My god you two....You two are worse than me/jedi me/ayepecks me/bangbang and me/unimatrix.

I'm with Audio on this one...dude may kind of be a fraud, but he's still wicked sick. I enjoy his shows, regardless of if they are rehearsed or not.

I enjoy Top Gear for this exact reason. I know when Richard hit's Captain Slow's cars that it is for show....and yet....I crack up every time it happens. :D

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For example, you might keep your passkey in a syncing password manager, add a second trusted device, save recovery codes somewhere safe, or set up a backup security key. A passkey is very secure, but just like a real key, you need a backup plan in case you lose access to it. Now, you might ask: “What stops a hacker from copying my half of the necklace?” That’s the important part: your half is protected. It is not something you type in, and it is not something the website gets to keep. Think of your half as being locked inside a tiny safe on your phone, computer, security key, or password manager. That safe only opens when you approve it with your fingerprint, face, PIN, or device password. When you log in, the website does not need to see your half. It only needs proof that your half matches its half. Your actual half is not handed over to the website. This is different from a password. With a password, you type the secret into the website. If you type it into a fake website, the hacker now has it. With a passkey, you are not typing your secret into the website. Your device is proving you have the matching half without giving the half away. That also helps protect you from fake websites. If someone makes a fake login page that looks like the real site, your device can tell it is not the real match. It will not use your passkey there. Now, could someone use your passkey if they stole your device, got into your password manager, or somehow unlocked the safe that holds your half? Yes, that is why your device password, PIN, fingerprint, face unlock, and password manager security still matter. But a hacker cannot just steal your passkey from the website or trick you into typing it into a fake page like they can with a password. That is why passkeys are safer than passwords. The two matching pieces have to come together, like two lovebirds who were once separated and are finally reunited.
    • Newegg offers insane combo deal on Amazon Prime Day 2026 that beats Steam Machine by Sayan Sen Building a PC is undoubtedly difficult nowadays but with this epic combo deal, Newegg is trying to make it as easy for you as it is possible. If you are making a new one or even upgrading an old system to a new Windows 11 device, this combo bundle is truly unmissable as you get AMD's Ryzen 9800X3D, a compatible X870 motherboard, a 240mm AIO liquid cooler and finally a Samsung 990 PRO SSD all for under $1000 (purchase link under the specs table down below). This should beat out the newly launched Steam Machine from Valve in terms of performance and performance per dollar especially if you are willing to set Linux up on it. Essentially with this combo you will get the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core 3D V cache CPU, Samsung's 990 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD, the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX Motherboard, and finally the Cooler Master Elite Liquid 240. Thanks to that massive vertically stacked L3 cache, the X3D desktop processors, including the 9800X3D, also come with the benefit of not needing fast memory. Even DDR5-5600 should be plenty for it. The technical specifications of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D are given in the table below: Specification Value Architecture Zen 5 Cores / Threads 8 / 16 Base Clock 4.7 GHz Max Boost Clock Up to 5.2 GHz L1 Cache 640 KB L2 Cache 8 MB L3 Cache 96 MB Total Cache 104 MB CPU Core Process TSMC 4nm FinFET I/O Die Process TSMC 6nm FinFET Socket AM5 Default TDP 120W Max Temperature (Tjmax) 95°C Thermal Solution Not included Memory Type DDR5 Max Capacity 256 GB Memory Speeds 2x1R: DDR5-5600 2x2R: DDR5-5600 4x1R: DDR5-3600 4x2R: DDR5-3600 PCIe Version PCIe 5.0 PCIe Lanes (Total/Usable) 28 / 24 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gbps) 4 USB 2.0 1 Graphics Cores 2 CU RDNA 2 Frequency 2200 MHz DisplayPort over USB-C Yes Overclocking Unlocked Up next we have the tech specs for the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard: Specification Value Chipset AMD X870 CPU Support AMD Ryzen 9000 / 8000 / 7000 Series Desktop Processors Socket AM5 Memory Slots 4 × DDR5 UDIMM Maximum Memory Capacity 256GB Memory Support DDR5 8400–5600 MT/s (OC), DDR5 5600–4800 MT/s (JEDEC) Integrated Graphics Outputs 1 × HDMI 2.1 FRL (up to 8K 60Hz) 2 × USB4 Type-C with DisplayPort 1.4 HBR3 (up to 4K 60Hz) Expansion Slots PCI_E1: PCIe 5.0 x16 (CPU) PCI_E2: PCIe 3.0 x1 (Chipset) PCI_E3: PCIe 4.0 x4 (Chipset) Audio Realtek ALC4080 Codec 7.1-Channel USB High Performance Audio Supports up to 32-bit/384kHz playback on front panel S/PDIF output M.2 Slots 4 × M.2 M2_1: PCIe 5.0 x4 (CPU, 22110/2280) M2_2: PCIe 5.0 x4 (CPU, 2280/2260) M2_3: PCIe 4.0 x2 (Chipset, 2280/2260) M2_4: PCIe 4.0 x4 (Chipset, 2280/2260) SATA Ports 4 × SATA 6Gb/s RAID Support RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 for M.2 NVMe storage devices Rear USB Ports 4 × USB 2.0 3 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 2 × USB 10Gbps Type-A 1 × USB 10Gbps Type-C 2 × USB4 40Gbps Type-C Front USB Headers 4 × USB 2.0 4 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 1 × USB 20Gbps Type-C LAN Realtek 8126-CG 5G LAN Wireless Wi-Fi 7 (M.2 Key-E module pre-installed) Supports 2.4GHz / 5GHz / 6GHz bands Up to 5.8Gbps Supports 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax/be Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.4, MLO, 4KQAM Internal Power Connectors 1 × 24-pin ATX Power 2 × CPU Power Connectors 1 × PCIe 8-pin Power Connector Fan Headers 1 × CPU Fan 1 × Combo Fan (Pump/System) 6 × System Fan RGB Headers 3 × Addressable V2 RGB (JARGB_V2) 1 × RGB LED (JRGB) Other Internal Headers 1 × EZ Conn-header 2 × Front Panel Headers 1 × Chassis Intrusion 1 × Front Audio 1 × TPM 2.0 Header Debug Features 4 × EZ Debug LEDs 1 × EZ Digit Debug LED Rear I/O Ports Clear CMOS Button Flash BIOS Button HDMI 2 × USB 40Gbps Type-C 1 × USB 10Gbps Type-C 4 × USB 10Gbps Type-A 3 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 4 × USB 2.0 5G LAN Port Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Antenna Connectors Audio Connectors Form Factor ATX The Samsung 990 PRO is a PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD and still one of the fastest drives available today for under $500. Speaking of fast, sequential reads and writes are rated at 7450 MB/s and 6900 MB/s, respectively. The random throughputs for reads and writes are 1400K IOPS and 1550K IOPS, respectively. The 990 PRO is based on Samsung's 7th Gen V-NAND flash, and it too is TLC. It packs 2 gigs of LPDDR4 DRAM cache, which helps the random performance. The endurance rating for this is 1200 TBW (terabytes written), which should be sufficient for most users. The Samsung 990 PRO is compatible with the PlayStation 5, but if you are going to use the 990 PRO on a PC, check out the Samsung Magician app that lets you track your drive's health, update its firmware, customize various settings, and more. The tech specs are given below: Specification Value Interface PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 2.0 Form Factor M.2 2280 Controller Samsung In-house Controller NAND Flash 3D TLC DRAM Cache 2GB LPDDR4 Sequential Read (Max) 7,450 MB/s Sequential Write (Max) 6,900 MB/s Random Read (4K) Up to 1,400,000 IOPS Random Write (4K) Up to 1,550,000 IOPS TBW (Endurance) 1,200 TBW MTBF 1,500,000 hours Operating Temperature 0°C to 70°C Storage Temperature -40°C to 85°C Shock Resistance 1,500G / 0.5ms Heatsink No Get the combo deal at this link: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Samsung 990 PRO 2TB, MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard, Cooler Master Elite Liquid 240: $784.99 + $25 off with promo code FTTF77: $759.99 (Sold and Shipped by Newegg US) Good to know This Newegg deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. 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    • I heard from a lot of people that driver support for the latest games when RDNA first came out (Radeon 5000 series) was pretty bad, but if you didn't buy the card on day one, or were not trying to play the latest titles, then you were isolated from that issue. Other than that, it's been good and only getting better.
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