Heroes Volume 4 : Fugitives

[iamwhoiam]

How far this show has fallen for me. I'm not 'excited' for it at all. I'll watch, but I'm not awaiting its return.

I feel the same. I watch it when I remember it's on, but I don't go out of my way to make sure I watch it. It's turned to crap, IMO.

[Julius Caro]

Don't forget that peter has a history of not being able to control his powers., so maybe he didnt lose anything he just got weird when he got the freezing power

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

It has been said in the past that peter can only use one of his powers at a time. Anyway was a great episode, cant wait to see what they have in store for us the rest of the season.

[Rappy Veteran]

I have to say I never noticed him losing one and then replacing it with something else, didn't Nathan say "what powers have you used" or something like that so he must know.

[obiwong]

it was a good episode

although it's starting to feel too much like Days of Future Past

loved the Sylar scene (Y)

[Deadlydread]

It was taken from him by Arthur at the Petrelli flat. Remember him dangling off the side of the building?

Yes, that was in the past. which is why Ando got his power and Daphne had to use her supercharged Speed to go back in time and get him.

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It has been said in the past that peter can only use one of his powers at a time. Anyway was a great episode, cant wait to see what they have in store for us the rest of the season.

Can only USE one at a time. But now he can only POSSESS one at a time.

Which is also flawed, because he has at least two. The leech ability and whatever ability he has.

I have to say I never noticed him losing one and then replacing it with something else, didn't Nathan say "what powers have you used" or something like that so he must know.

He said 'what can you do these days'.

Peter was just as stunned as anyone that the strength went away. Look at his reaction when he got knocked down.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

Can only USE one at a time. But now he can only POSSESS one at a time.

Which is also flawed, because he has at least two. The leech ability and whatever ability he has.

Dude, there has been one episode, stop spouting it as fact when you don't know it as fact. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you could be wrong. Also, when he grabs mohinder's hand as he is about to fall out of the plane wouldn't he have regained the strength power?

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

Episode 1: Clear and present Danger

Episode 2: Trust and Blood

Episode 3: Building 26

Episode 4: Cold War

Episode 5: Shades of Gray

[shakey]

Great episode. No complaints on my end. Everything seemed to go pretty smoothly. I hate how they are making Ando's character get all full of himself though.

On a Directors note, how the hell did they miss the africans staff on his shoulders or on his side in the shots. Go back to where matt is talking with the african, and you will notice his staff goes from on shoulders to off shoulders multiple times , back and forth, between each shot that he isnt in. Was either put in for a trip effect or just horrible direction and editing lol.

And peter can use more than 1 power, because he still had strength after blowing the hull open. If not, i dont think he could keep hanging onto the rope while the metal clamps were breaking... if the metal claps were giving way, peter would have been sucked through long before without the super strength. Remember, he doesnt use his powers all by thought, but normally by emotion.

[bolerodan]

Can only USE one at a time. But now he can only POSSESS one at a time.

Which is also flawed, because he has at least two. The leech ability and whatever ability he has.

He said 'what can you do these days'.

Peter was just as stunned as anyone that the strength went away. Look at his reaction when he got knocked down.

Ummm He was stunned because he had no Idea he can now mimic the Ice ability and started to freeze the side of the plane. Wouldnt you be a little suprised as well? This has been one episode, and although there are flaws, it would not make sense to have peter only be able to have one power at a time. I'm still standing ground saying he can absorb multiple powers just as before (although perhaps acquired differently). Its just in that situation it was a little iffy. At this point it is still only speculation, no one can 100% say how his powers work now.

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Dude, there has been one episode, stop spouting it as fact when you don't know it as fact. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you could be wrong. Also, when he grabs mohinder's hand as he is about to fall out of the plane wouldn't he have regained the strength power?

It is established already. So what its only one episode? You can clearly see it happen.

He touches Tracy, then punches the guy. He barely recoils from it. Before, he was flying halfway across the plane. Then Peter gets knocked down and freezes the plane.

I'm not sure about Mohinder touching him. Claire touches him and he doesn't leech her ability, so it appears Peter has to initiate contact. The two people he touched, he took their abilities.

Mohinder still has his ability, because he got himself out of the chair. So Peter doesn't take it away from the person.

Ummm He was stunned because he had no Idea he can now mimic the Ice ability and started to freeze the side of the plane. Wouldnt you be a little suprised as well? This has been one episode, and although there are flaws, it would not make sense to have peter only be able to have one power at a time. I'm still standing ground saying he can absorb multiple powers just as before (although perhaps acquired differently). Its just in that situation it was a little iffy. At this point it is still only speculation, no one can 100% say how his powers work now.

He clearly doesn't have the strength once he takes the freezing ability. How else would you explain that he punches the guard in the face and the guard is unaffected?

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

Only part I found funny, was the black guy in the apartment. His staff (stick) was on his neck one scene, than was on the floor / in his hand, and back on his neck. It did it a few times actually :p

[shakey]

Only part I found funny, was the black guy in the apartment. His staff (stick) was on his neck one scene, than was on the floor / in his hand, and back on his neck. It did it a few times actually :p

ya lyle, thats what I was talking about. What was up with that? trip effect or horrible editing?

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And peter can use more than 1 power, because he still had strength after blowing the hull open. If not, i dont think he could keep hanging onto the rope while the metal clamps were breaking... if the metal claps were giving way, peter would have been sucked through long before without the super strength. Remember, he doesnt use his powers all by thought, but normally by emotion.

The clips were breaking due the weight and force of Peter being on the lines, and being pulled back. Not directly from the suction.

ya lyle, thats what I was talking about. What was up with that? trip effect or horrible editing?

I think they did that intentionally. At least I hope so.

[shakey]

thats a cargo net, which I would believe is made to be able to support hundreds of pounds normally. This is a force that pulled a chair out of the frame and sucked it out. These weren't some crappy metal clips. They obviously had strength. And to be able to hold onto that for so long, would take even more strength. Same with people able to hold fingertips through something like that.

There's nothing of substantial proof that peter cant have more than 1 power still stored in him. It would be going far too off on a limb to guess that he can only have 1 at a time now. I believe he can still gather powers up, because they have to have someone who can fight sylar. And i dont think we want peter running around poking everyone during that fight lol.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

It is established already. So what its only one episode? You can clearly see it happen.

He touches Tracy, then punches the guy. He barely recoils from it. Before, he was flying halfway across the plane. Then Peter gets knocked down and freezes the plane.

Nothing is clear about it at all dude. Plus, if you go back to the end of volume 3 where he injects himself he is flying before he touches Nathan. So again, stop talking in fact when you don't know it as fact. Just because you see something someway doesn't make it fact.

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thats a cargo net, which I would believe is made to be able to support hundreds of pounds normally. This is a force that pulled a chair out of the frame and sucked it out. These weren't some crappy metal clips. They obviously had strength. And to be able to hold onto that for so long, would take even more strength. Same with people able to hold fingertips through something like that.

There's nothing of substantial proof that peter cant have more than 1 power still stored in him. It would be going far too off on a limb to guess that he can only have 1 at a time now. I believe he can still gather powers up, because they have to have someone who can fight sylar. And i dont think we want peter running around poking everyone during that fight lol.

Then explain why the guard didn't get knocked back (at least) when Peter punched him.

[shakey]

maybe the same horrible directing/editing done with the africans magic shoulder/side staff... :p

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Nothing is clear about it at all dude. Plus, if you go back to the end of volume 3 where he injects himself he is flying before he touches Nathan. So again, stop talking in fact when you don't know it as fact. Just because you see something someway doesn't make it fact.

I already pointed that out as what is going to be a continuity error.

Same question as I asked shakey. If he has strength, why didn't he hurt the guard when he punched him?

If you remember, Kring and others talked about how they made the people too powerful. Sylar, Peter, and Hiro were the examples of those. Hiro has no ability now. Peter is neutered. Keeping Sylar with powers is fine, since hes the bad guy and they are supposed to have an advantage.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

Maybe because he had just taken on the frost ability and was in shock and or using that ability and thus could also not have been using strength at the same time? Remember when peter learns new ability's he doesn't always learn how to use them right away, he isn't sylar :)

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Maybe because he had just taken on the frost ability and was in shock and or using that ability and thus could also not have been using strength at the same time? Remember when peter learns new ability's he doesn't always learn how to use them right away, he isn't sylar :)

Right, thats why he froze the side of the plane.

But if he still had flying, why wouldn't he have flown out of the plane?

[shakey]

Right, thats why he froze the side of the plane.

But if he still had flying, why wouldn't he have flown out of the plane?

He's a hero. He doesn't want to leave anyone there. If he gets sucked out, he doesn't know if they will live the crash, or if he would even be able to maybe find them. Probably also not really thinking straight as to the plane crashing is pretty intense. Peter doesn't run man, you know this.

[Inctye]

We don't know for sure if he can only get one ability at a time... I seriously hope that's not the case... Maybe they want all the characters to be important, but out of all the characters in the show, Peter is the only true and pure "Hero".

As of right now, Peter is still learning his ability. How he figured out he needed to touch Mohinder had super strength and needed to touch his hand to absorb the power remains puzzling. Going back to when the season finale for volume 3 where the Peter flew Nathan out of the building, Petar just took jumped toward Nathan just to try to push them both out the window but then the flying ability was absorbed and kicked in immediately. Based on that, maybe Peter that is how he learned he had to touch Mohinder first (but still doesnt explain how he knew his superstrength ability). When he was fighting and touched Tracy, he was stunned at why he lost the superstrength and gained the freezing ability. So now, this sets the stage for Peter knowing he can only absorb one ability at a time.

Teamwork is the main theme they are to shape since Peter will need to stay close to as many others to have access to as many abilities as possible. Who knows, maybe he just needs to learn the ability some more to hold multiple abilities, or it seems more likely now that Ando's supercharging ability can give Peter the ability to have multiple powers temporarily. Speaking of Ando, he should be hunting down Hiro over the next few episodes.

Good episode with quite a few flaws as to how things happen. Overall it sets up for an interesting season.

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

Good episode, last 10 minutes + Sylar scene were great!