F1 World Championship 2009 Thread

[Subject Delta]

Let the idiot continue with his watered down vision of F1, if he thinks names like Lola, USF1, Superfund, and iSport are going to be any replacement for Renault, Ferrari, Toyota, and BMW then he is just stupid.

Until this idiot retires, F1 will continue going downhill

[JoeC]

Can we get some journalists on to him and try and find another embarrassing story to get him to step down? The last one wasn't quite enough :(

[Subject Delta]

I wish someone would just shoot him.

[simonlang]

result of the 3rd practice this morning

that looks verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry good :D

[Zoom7000]

Hamilton out at Q1 again! Wow!

[MightyJordan]

Thank god the qualifying is online as well. It's raining very heavily down here and it's knocked out the signal on both our Sky boxes. :(

[san.W10]

[MightyJordan]

My god, those last few seconds were good! Webber takes pole, then Button nicks it a few seconds later, then Vettel from out of nowhere snatches it!

Really looking forward to tomorrow! :)

[brentaal]

Car weight

Pos Driver Team Weight (kg)

1. Sebastian Vettel RBR Renault 649.5

2. Jenson Button Brawn Mercedes 655.5

3. Rubens Barrichello Brawn Mercedes 652.5

4. Mark Webber RBR Renault 656.0

5. Jarno Trulli Toyota 652.0

6. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 658.0

7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 654.0

8. Fernando Alonso Renault 644.5

9. Nico Rosberg Williams Toyota 660.0

10. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 664.0

11. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 681.5*

12. Kazuki Nakajima Williams Toyota 680.4*

13. Timo Glock Toyota 689.0*

14. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Mercedes 665.0*

15. Adrian Sutil Force India Mercedes 668.5*

16. Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 696.5*

17. Nelson Piquet Renault 689.6*

18. Sebastien Buemi STR Ferrari 686.5*

19. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India Mercedes 688.5*

20. Sebastien Bourdais STR Ferrari 701.0*

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Hm. So both Brawns and Webber have fuel for two more laps than Vettel.

I expect Button and Barichello to get ahead of Vettel at latest after the first pit stop.

[san.W10]

wth happened to barichello at start :D

& what about the ferrari's ?

[Mike]

Another snooze fest except for barrichello's events, race was over on the 1st lap.

[Zoom7000]

Button does the business again. Fantastic drive again, but you have to say that Vettel threw it away on the first lap! And Barrichello, what a start... Nightmare!

[Antaris Veteran]

Nice drive for Button again, unlucky for Vettel, that tiny mistake in the first gifted the race to Button, who just out performed everyone again.

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

what happened to barrichello? Not watched race yet, sadly working

[JoeC]

Off the line, the anti-stall kicked in on Barrichello's car, then later he clipped his front wing on the back of ... maybe Nelson Piquet? That moved his pit stop up by 2/3 laps, and then later he was complaining that he couldn't get the car into 7th gear for overtaking and the straights.

[Mike]

that ^ and he spun trying to overtake kovalainen

[simonlang]

oh what a boring race, button can cruise to his title now its a shame cause the few laps vettel could put pressure on him he lost the line in one corner already. but now nothing can stop him, vettel is too far away and barrichello has to do what he had to do as schueys team-mate already. playing 2nd fiddle.

felipe massa saves ferrari from another pointless race, at least.

[Garry]

So I guess under next year's 'gold medal' driver's championship system, Button is three wins away from the title...

[.mcman]

So I guess under next year's 'gold medal' driver's championship system, Button is three wins away from the title...

I wonder if anyone asked Bernie what he thinks about his "great" idea now...

[StealMySoda]

So I guess under next year's 'gold medal' driver's championship system, Button is three wins away from the title...

Was just thinking that. I really hope they wont implement it. To be honest I think it would be safe to say it was already won. Not that it isn't this. Boring already. As soon as Button overtook Vettel, I thought great, another boring race.

[Mike]

So I guess under next year's 'gold medal' driver's championship system, Button is three wins away from the title...

Medals aren't being used next year afaik

[Subject Delta]

Off the line, the anti-stall kicked in on Barrichello's car, then later he clipped his front wing on the back of ... maybe Nelson Piquet? That moved his pit stop up by 2/3 laps, and then later he was complaining that he couldn't get the car into 7th gear for overtaking and the straights.

I am wondering if the poor getaway and the gearbox are related, he had to replace one after the bad getaway at Australia because he overtorqued it, could possibly be a repeat of that problem

Medals aren't being used next year afaik

No mention of it in the latest FIA rules draft so let's hope it has been shelved for good

[Subject Delta]

Also, Red Bull and Ferrari better get their acts together fast otherwise this championship could be even more dominated than 2002 and 2004, and no discredit to Brawn, but I believe the in-season testing ban is a large part of the relatively static performances of the teams

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Mosley to meet with teams today

Formula 1 teams are due to meet with FIA president Max Mosley in London today to try and reach a last-minute deal over entries for next year, AUTOSPORT has learned, with the governing body having made clear the compromises it is willing to offer.

With the entry list for the 2010 championship due to be announced by the FIA tomorrow morning, efforts are increasing to reach a resolution that will head off the threat of current manufacturer teams walking away from F1.

Although there have been suggestions in the past few days that the two sides are edging near a resolution, there still appears to be differences between the two parties about the way forward for next year.

However, AUTOSPORT has learned that Mosley is willing to soften the FIA's approach to next year - which includes scrapping a two-tier category ? even though he insists a budget cap must be in place in 2010.

In a letter Mosley sent to Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo following his last meeting with teams in Monaco, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, Mosley said that there was some ground for manoeuvre in what the FIA would be willing to accept for next year.

"We can agree that all teams race under the same 2010 rules," said Mosley, referring to the original proposal for a two-tier F1 that had been a major bone of contention for a lot of teams.

"These would be as published, but with the technical and sporting advantages originally offered to cost-cap teams deleted."

Rather than having performance benefits, the FIA said it was willing to give new teams the opportunity to work on technology transfer deals with established outfits ? as has been hinted about by Frank Williams in recent days.

Mosley added: "Instead of these advantages, we will facilitate know-how transfer between certain current teams and new entrants at least for 2010 and possibly for 2011."

One thing Mosley is not willing to back down on though is the introduction of a budget cap ? even if the figure is made very high for next year.

He said he was willing to propose: "A cap in 2010. This could be as high as 100 million Euros, but we must have a cap and we must have certainty... For 2011, again we must have certainty with a cap at ?40 million (or if preferred 45 million Euros)."

However, Mosley said that a compromise could be introduced whereby one highly paid member of staff would be allowed to be outside the budget cap ? which would help those outfits who have star names, like Adrian Newey or Ross Brawn, on board.

Furthermore, the FIA said it was willing to sign a Concorde Agreement 'broadly' along the lines of the version sent to it prior to the Monaco Grand Prix, plus a renaming of the cost cap ? which has been a big issue for the teamSource: ource: Autosport