Star Trek Into Darkness

[Corris Veteran]

The quality of a show is different when viewing it on a weekly basis and the entire series/several seasons within a week.

While that is true, I did watch the first 3 seasons as they aired, but completely missed the forth besides the very last episode.

I can't remember why, but stand by my opinion either way. :p

[Mathachew Veteran]

While that is true, I did watch the first 3 seasons as they aired, but completely missed the forth besides the very last episode.

I can't remember why, but stand by my opinion either way through. :p

Ah, well that's different :p

[Matrix XII]

Hopefully the sequel is as good as the first!

Although they rarely are..

This Star Trek movie was the first of anything in the genre I've seen, I loved it though :p

[Rappy Veteran]

Thousands lined up to hear Patrick Stewart speak in the massive Marriott Marquis hotel ballroom at Dragon*Con over the weekend, and according to CNN.com, the Star Trek: The Next Generation and X-Men star didn't disappoint, revealing his thoughts about possible roles in both franchises.

The bottom line is that a return as Professor Xavier is still possible, but a future for Jean-Luc Picard ... not so much.

Stewart mentioned that he recently co-starred in a production of "Waiting for Godot" with Ian McKellen and the two agreed that they would like continue exploring the relationship between Xavier and McKellen's X-Men character Magneto.

Stewart thought that this summer's reboot of Star Trek was "terrific," but didn't see any possibilities for Jean-Luc Picard in the franchise, leaving open only that he would agree to do a cameo in a sequel. Stewart mentioned a proposed final Next Generation film, but after the disappointing box office for Star Trek: Nemesis, it never materialized.

"I feel that I have left behind a legacy as Picard," he said. "In my head and heart, I've moved on."

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[Minifig]

I'm going to laugh if this thing bombs out and nobody will want to see the sequal. :laugh:

Oh. I don't think it'll bomb.

[Growled Member]

I think it's time for them to cut the cord on the old characters and bring in new blood as they did with the new movie. I think bringing the old actors back will only limit the movies.

[LOC Veteran]

I'm fine with them not bringing back the older actors for the new movies. But for god's sake, give us some closure on TNG and DS9 and VOY Paramount. Sheesh. Is it to much to ask to see Sisko return finally, or Data coming back (even though it's more or less canon he's back anyways lol)

[Growled Member]

But for god's sake, give us some closure on TNG and DS9 and VOY Paramount. Sheesh. Is it to much to ask to see Sisko return finally, or Data coming back (even though it's more or less canon he's back anyways lol)

We'd even settle for a made-for-TV movie of the week! :D

[Rappy Veteran]

'Trek' sequel to deal with modern issues

J.J. Abrams has hinted that his Star Trek sequel will reflect modern-day issues.

Speaking to the Los Angeles Times, Abrams said that he is keen for the next Trek outing to offer up contemporary social commentary.

"The ambition for a sequel to Star Trek is to make a movie that's worthy of the audience and not just a second movie that feels tacked on," he explained. "The first movie was so concerned with just setting up the characters - their meeting each and galvanizing that family - that in many ways a sequel will have a very different mission."

He continued: "It needs to do what [creator Gene] Roddenberry did so well, which is allegory. It needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story.

"There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn't mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths - truths connected to what we live - that elevates any story."

[Growled Member]

That sounds encouraging. Star Trek always did social commentary very well.

[Scorbing]

I hope they don't fu... it up like they did STNG.

[qdave]

It surely will be exciting.

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The Los Angeles Times has a piece with J.J. Abramas and Boborci about the development of the next STAR TREK movie.

Abrams says:

"...The first movie was so concerned with just setting up the characters -- their meeting each and galvanizing that family -- that in many ways a sequel will have a very different mission. it needs to do what [the late 'Trek' creator Gene] Roddenberry did so well, which is allegory. It needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story. There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn't mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths -- truths connected to what we live -- that elevates any story -- that's true with any story."

And here's what Boborci had to say:

"We?ve literally had two meetings now. We haven?t decided anything but we?re starting to circle around some ideas. We got a lot of fan response from the first one and a considerable amount of critical response and one of the things we heard was, ?Make sure the next one deals with modern-day issues.? We?re trying to keep it as up-to-date and as reflective of what?s going on today as possible. So that?s one thing, to make it reflect the things that we are all dealing with today.

I asked Orci somewhat flippantly if that meant we might see Starfleet grappling with the ethics of torture or dealing with a rising terrorist threat or perhaps a painful, politicized war with the Klingons.

"Well yeah, those are the kind of issues we're talking about. Wow, you're good! But seriously that's the way we're thinking, that's an approach. So if you have any ideas ... "

All per THIS Los Angeles Times piece.

Wondering if this conceit will extend beyond the treatment of prisoners? I.e. will the Federation enter into a conflict that ends up being messy and ill advised? Not hinting that I know anything specific here...just thinking out loud.

Source

[shockz]

Glad to hear they are working on integrating modern day issues. That was one of Gene Roddenberry's visions and purposes for creating the show.

Interested to see what they come up with.

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

I hope it is not terrorist related. That has been done to death in both tv and movies of late. IT would be great to see some other real life issue come into play tho.

[qdave]

I hope it is not terrorist related. That has been done to death in both tv and movies of late. IT would be great to see some other real life issue come into play tho.

There haven't been done any space terrorism :p

In any case i am sure that the writers will be smart enough to think of something interesting.

[minkcar]

awesomeness!

[CL114C0777498D]

star trek was great, because it put current superficial/illogical cultural issues into perspective through a reflective retrospective lens. it presents these things as non-problems in the future so we ask ourselves "why are they an issue now?" it's great. i hope that will carry forth.

i hope they will look at global social and cultural issues (particularly stemming from ignorance and bigotry) that are preventing peace, not just issues specific to america.

i hate it when so called 'global' or 'intergalactic' cultures in the future are really just american. i understand it's because they're generally american films, but still...

and that's why jean luc piccard is the best captain ever. :D

[The Grasshopper]

I enjoyed the first movie. the canon changes and all but maybe they can invent a new baddy? it can't be about the klingon's or vulcans. not enough of either of them left.

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

A new enemy happened with Nero tho, although it was good not seeing Klingon's or Romulan's etc. Would like to see a little of how Spock copes with Vulcan gone now thou, give him a little emotion or something. Either way if JJ is behind the helm and directing, he wont spew out a crap movie that is for sure.

[NEVER85]

There haven't been done any space terrorism :p

It's been done lots in Star Trek with the Maquis.

[testroom_9]

i'd like to see somthing more meaningfull than terrorism too be honest - think that would be boring...

what if there was a loss of intrest in space exploration in the federation (like there is now here) but the crew knew of an enemy going to take advantage etc etc... that would be more meaningful in IMHO - emphasising the point that we should be doing everything possible to expand our knowledge etc

[Raktael]

it can't be about the klingon's or vulcans. not enough of either of them left.

I really hope you just got that wrong and meant Romulans, because the Klingon's are still alive and kicking in this 'alternate' time line. :)

A new enemy happened with Nero tho, although it was good not seeing Klingon's or Romulan's etc.

Technically we did see Romulans...Nero...was Romulan, as were his crew...the graphic novel pre-quel if you haven't already read it, is a must in setting up and explaining some of the storyline for the film.

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Personally, I don't see why the Klingon's couldn't be a part of it, we don't know what the destruction of Romulan space has done to the Alpha Quadrant, you'll now have the Federation, Klingon's and most likely the Cardassian's vying for control, as well as some of the minor races could perhaps take control of more space left behind. Terrorism, no thanks, not in Star Trek '2', we saw enough of that through TNG/DS9 and even Voyager with as Frozen said, the Maquis.

There are two likelyhoods in my opinion, a possible war between the Klingons and Federation perhaps? I don't know...or of course they could introduce a 'new' race or smaller one that has become a bigger player in the galaxy due to the events that have occured.

All I know is, I can't wait for this film, apart from Wrath of Khan 'Star Trek' was the best Star Trek film I have ever seen and I look forward to what Abrams & Co can bring to the sequel as at the moment I am loving their work, with Transformers, Star Trek & Fringe...they are some amazing writers.

[jakem1]

If they want a topical issue they could make it about Health Care. Of course, with free universal healthcare (not to mention no currency) the Star Trek universe is like one big Socialist nightmare so that might alienate a few Americans :laugh:

BTW, after season 1 Enterprise was exclusively about terrorism and the war in Afghanistan and look how well that did. Terrorism is boring and is just as likely to alienate 1/2 the audience as the health care example above.

[Corris Veteran]

Ergh, fail on mybehalf.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Corris