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and not a jot about NZ / AUS pricing wonder why maybe because yet again we of the down under will be forced to pay through the eye's nose mouth and arse i wish the prices they come up with were world wide no matter what dollar yen rubel or whatever curency you use is 50 bucks should be 50 bucks no matter the country

I don't have an instant answer to that.

Thanks for replying :) Okay, well I'm sure you'll let us know if you hear anything :happy:

Jeff, this may be slightly off-topic, but I'll need to know before July 15th (when the UK pre-order offer starts) -

Do you happen to know, or are you able to find out, if Windows 7 will be on 'MSDN Academic Alliance', like Windows Vista is (I think it is the business version)? If so, when will it be available on there? Thanks in advance :)

Can someone please answer whether or not Windows XP/Vista must be previously installed on the hard drive to do an "upgrade" to 7. If this is the case I won't be paying one penny for Windows 7. It's worth $100 but not for a nuscience-crippled version that takes two hours to install every few months when I format. And it certainly is NOT worth $300.

I might be able to stomach putting a stupid vista disc in or even my key for vista but that's as far as I'll go and really that's too far. Microsoft is too paranoid about it's customers. All it does is alienate them and make the pirates giggle.

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Thanks for replying :) Okay, well I'm sure you'll let us know if you hear anything :happy:

Jeff, this may be slightly off-topic, but I'll need to know before July 15th (when the UK pre-order offer starts) -

Do you happen to know, or are you able to find out, if Windows 7 will be on 'MSDN Academic Alliance', like Windows Vista is (I think it is the business version)? If so, when will it be available on there? Thanks in advance :)

I've made a note of this and will try to dig this info up. You may also want to post this to the Technet forums as well.

As long as I can do a format/clean install with the Windows 7 upgrade (use my Vista cd to verify I had it or whatever) then I will pick up 2 upgrades @ 49 each... anyone know the "upgrade method"?

Havent seen anything official about that. Really dont want to do the Vista Upgrade Install and reinstall routine again. Hope your correct about doing a clean install off the Windows 7 upgrade disk. That would be nice.

Little known Windows license fact: you can install the same copy of Windows on both your laptop and desktop system (unless this has changed for 7).

Have you got a link for that? I know this is the case for Office but I don't think Windows licensing works like that (although I think it should).

This thread is confusing.

I have Windows Vista 64bit Retail Ultimate that I was going to try and sell.

I want to get Windows 7 64bit Retail Ultimate, is there a deal for this, will there be, should I bother trying to keep my Vista....what...

This thread is confusing.

I have Windows Vista 64bit Retail Ultimate that I was going to try and sell.

I want to get Windows 7 64bit Retail Ultimate, is there a deal for this, will there be, should I bother trying to keep my Vista....what...

From what i've read the pre-order versions are upgrade only. So full price for the full retail package, personally i would stay with Vista.

Jeff can you just answer one question. Will we be able to do a fresh install on an upgrade disk and if the os becomes bugged up will we be able to reinstall? if we can't then this is more of the same bs that just feeds into people treating an os like if you mess it up you're screwed when really you should just be able to reinstall it.

This thread is confusing.

I have Windows Vista 64bit Retail Ultimate that I was going to try and sell.

I want to get Windows 7 64bit Retail Ultimate, is there a deal for this, will there be, should I bother trying to keep my Vista....what...

Have you looked at the Ars Technica article posted at the start of the thread, or the Windows 7 Team BLOG post mentioned earlier?

No pre-order offers for Win7 Ultimate, too early to tell if there will be deals on it.

Have you got a link for that? I know this is the case for Office but I don't think Windows licensing works like that (although I think it should).

The windows vista license states:

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license, you must

assign that license to one device (physical hardware system). That device is the ?licensed device.?

A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate device.

a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed device. You may

use the software on up to two processors on that device at one time. Except as provided in the

Storage and Network Use (Ultimate edition) sections below, you may not use the software on any

other device.

So he's wrong.

Jeff can you just answer one question. Will we be able to do a fresh install on an upgrade disk and if the os becomes bugged up will we be able to reinstall? if we can't then this is more of the same bs that just feeds into people treating an os like if you mess it up you're screwed when really you should just be able to reinstall it.

Just shot out an email- should hear back soon.

Just shot out an email- should hear back soon.

I don't know if it is the same issue, but I have a perfectly good Vista Home License, but no disks to speak of.

Is purchasing an upgrade package even an option at this point?

Thanks for all your help here Jeff. You should get a raise.

Or at least a day off.

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