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OK I've read the entire thread and am still confused. Last time, I purchased 2 copies of Vista Home Premium from the online MS Store. These were Upgrade versions. -BUT- In order to use them, a previous OS had to be installed on the system first. This meant either installing the copy once without a key, then installing the upgrade with the key. A royal pain in the ass. As a result, I've only used 1 of the keys I've purchased and have never reinstalled that copy ever.

If 7 is exactly the same I won't be preordering this. A complete waste of time. They should return to the XP SP1 days where you could stick in a Windows 2000 disc during setup and then the upgrade would install on a completely blank drive.

If we order the upgrade version.........can we still do a clean install? Or do we still need to have xp/vista installed? Always like to do a clean install.

As for 64 bit, still no answers? Looks like the only save bet is buying the MS download.

Waiting longer and paying more? Explain the better deal.

The UK gets to preorder the full version US gets only the upgrade version and they will pay $200 (?121) dollars for the full version when it comes out so we're getting it ?71 cheaper and who cares about waiting for a couple of weeks.

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Mmm I'm glad because I'll be able to get the European version with no IE8 (Y)

Yes, and on top of that we get the full version at the upgrade price with the preorder (Y)

Hopefully there aren't any issues in using a Vista Ultimate key to upgrade to Windows 7 Home. Especially since I already purchased the Home upgrade from Amazon.

You can't upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Win7 Home Premium :no:

Can anybody confirm this?

Yes: https://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/06/25/n...ption-in-the-eu

Full versions of Windows 7 will be at their equivalent upgrade prices in the EU. Also, you can pre-order Windows 7 Home Premium for ?49.99/?49.99* and Windows 7 Professional for ?99.99/?109.99*.

* ? in UK and ? in France/Germany.

Vista 32 and 64 were both on the same disk and yes it gives you option to install either at boot from dvd.

It's only included in the box with Windows Vista Ultimate. The remaining editions of Windows Vista do not come with 64-bit media.

How will X86 and X64 fit on the same disk, you gonna start using Dual Layer disks? If so, will it give you the option to install X86 or X64 when you boot from the disk?

This is a good question and has me thinking ..

I would like to copy the whole disk to a USB stick and install from there ( as I've been doing with the beta's etc ), so I'm wondering now whether my 4G cruzer is big enough for the task!

Any ideas anyone what size the discs will be .. in gigs ?? TIA

right i m glad 32bit and 64bit on same disk so clears that up if i buy home premium i can choose to install either as i want 64 :0

but what i wanted answered ....

Quote the BBC...

Those who want to upgrade to Windows 7 on a older PC will pay a reduced price for the software. Stand alone versions of Windows 7, that can run on more than one PC, will also be available.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8118749.stm

Which Version Of 7 is that then ? as i have 4 pcs ?? i dont want to buy 4 seperate copys ?

Windows 7 Pre-Order Offer

Be first. Save half.

Pre-order Windows 7 today. You'll get it for at least half off and be one of the first to get it. Hurry, quantities are limited.*

It's pretty simple

Windows 7 is coming on October 22, 2009. Here's an easy way to get it fast and save a bunch: Pre-order a Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade for $49** or a Windows 7 Professional Upgrade for $99.** That's about half off the estimated retail prices. This offer is available through participating retailers. Pick one below and pre-order today. They'll tell you how to get your copy when Windows 7 is available.

Then sit back and smile. You scored.

Quote taken from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order.aspx

I don't think the claim that both editions are on the same disc is correct. If it was, we would have seen ISOs of that configuration by now, surely?

It would be nice if they did it, but I think it's going to be like Vista and just ship with two discs.

It goes into accordance with their more eco-friendly packaging design for Windows 7. What better way to be eco-friendly than to use one disc instead of two. As for making a 32-/64-bit ISO, I think it's a bit redundant. I'm sure Microsoft prefers that people download one or the other.

This is a good question and has me thinking ..

I would like to copy the whole disk to a USB stick and install from there ( as I've been doing with the beta's etc ), so I'm wondering now whether my 4G cruzer is big enough for the task!

Any ideas anyone what size the discs will be .. in gigs ?? TIA

If it is true that X86 and X64 are on the same disk, it will probably be somewhere between 6.5 and 7 GB in size

If it is true that X86 and X64 are on the same disk, it will probably be somewhere between 6.5 and 7 GB in size

I also read here that 32-bit and 64-bit will be on the same disk but Microsoft's Windows 7 Pre-Order page says otherwise.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order.aspx

** Estimated retail price. Retailer pricing may vary. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional packaged product includes both 32- and 64-bit discs.

Does this mean separate disks???

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