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http://community.codemasters.com/forum/sho...ad.php?t=377214

http://www.gamerzines.com/downloads/magazines/360Zine_34.pdf

btw, do you guys like the new Subaru Impreza?

its a FAIL in WRC :p

its a FAIL when compared to Evo X (perf. wise)

its a FAIL looks wise

its a FAIL overall :D

& block races in it :rofl:

What? Do you even know who Colin Mcrae is?

crap, i missed this. lol

why dont you enlighten us with your infinite knowledge about colin? :/

since the demo, everybody can understand on what dirt2 is concentrating on.

its more about xgames than rallying.

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you guys remember what the devs. said in those earlier videos... they were talking about the "crowd" in stadium. lol, something in the range of 40k pixel crowd.

so i think in dirt2 - devs put more effort for

xgames>crowd>>rally :D

Q1- do you guys care for some pixel crowd, eating cpu/gpu?

in RBR, when you are racing, some photographers will take your pics from the middle of the road & when you near them they run away, + when you go off/ roll over, people help you get back on road, very nice touch.

i'm really missing RBR now

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now since EA has surprised everyone by moving NFS to sim side, i hope they surprise us again by making a NFS or a new series just for rally fans, only better than any other rally game :D

IGN PS3 Dirt 2 Review

For the most part, Career Mode is well-executed, offering the right balance of challenge and a good variety in locations and tracks. But I must admit that I am one of the previously mentioned rally fans who expects a rally game to have, well, rally racing. Sadly, only about 20% of the events in Dirt 2 are pure time-trial rally races. There are a few other time-based races including Trailblazer (rally races without a co-driver) and Gate Crasher (hit gates to add time to your run) that use elements of rally, but if you just want pure rally racing, it's in short supply. There are no hill climb events either, though there is a track in China called "Hill Climb" that amounts to a half-minute of speeding up a twisting hillside. I'd like my rally games to be two-thirds rally racing and other stuff thrown in for fun, not the other way around.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1021204p1.html

IGN PS3 Dirt 2 Review

9 out of 10?! Are they mad?

Also, their sub-headline for the review:

Is the king of rally still fit to wear the crown?

No, but It's gonna have the crown, nevertheless, as Codies are the only ones making rally games at the moment.

If DiRT 2 is anything to go by, I'm not having high hopes for the F1 game. :(

crap, i missed this. lol

why dont you enlighten us with your infinite knowledge about colin? :/

since the demo, everybody can understand on what dirt2 is concentrating on.

its more about xgames than rallying.

That's exactly my point. Mcrae was a WRC driver, and one of the best at that. He drove RALLY, not any of this BS they've made the game into. Tagging his name onto it is a blatant cash in since it really has s**t all to do with actual rallying.

That's exactly my point. Mcrae was a WRC driver, and one of the best at that. He drove RALLY, not any of this BS they've made the game into. Tagging his name onto it is a blatant cash in since it really has s**t all to do with actual rallying.

Well said, Si_. DiRT has gone the way of the Need for Speed series; turned mainstream and concentrating on luring in the uneducated idiots.

Although credit to Need for Speed with Shift. I played it in GAME last Friday (EA are doing a UK Championship for it, where I won the Plymouth Regional, and I'm going to the final in Thorpe Park! :D ) and it's really improved over the past few NFS games. It's still fairly arcadey and easy to pick up and play, but it's focusing more and more on realism. Unfortunately, we could only play it on the arcade settings (basically all the assists on, and even brake assist), but I'm fairly confident that if you turn all the assists off, it'll play like a proper sim racer; not like RACE Pro (that was just shocking), more like the SimBin games they do on the PC. An added bonus is I don't think there's some stupid storyline anymore! :)

funny thing is IGN UK rated dirt 9/10 & IGN USA rated it 8.4

lol

codeM paid for 9/10? :p

Well said, Si_. DiRT has gone the way of the Need for Speed series; turned mainstream and concentrating on luring in the uneducated idiots.

Although credit to Need for Speed with Shift. I played it in GAME last Friday (EA are doing a UK Championship for it, where I won the Plymouth Regional, and I'm going to the final in Thorpe Park! :D ) and it's really improved over the past few NFS games. It's still fairly arcadey and easy to pick up and play, but it's focusing more and more on realism. Unfortunately, we could only play it on the arcade settings (basically all the assists on, and even brake assist), but I'm fairly confident that if you turn all the assists off, it'll play like a proper sim racer; not like RACE Pro (that was just shocking), more like the SimBin games they do on the PC. An added bonus is I don't think there's some stupid storyline anymore! :)

thats great

good luck for the finals, i hope you win. :D

funny thing is IGN UK rated dirt 9/10 & IGN USA rated it 8.4

lol

codeM paid for 9/10? :p

It wouldn't surprise me. Eidos might have started a trend! :p

thats great

good luck for the finals, i hope you win. :D

Thanks! :) Even if I don't win, I still get a prize for making it to the finals: a Need for Speed Scalextric set! :D I will definitely be gunning for the win though. The runner-up gets the Scalextric set and a Need for Speed racing jacket. Then a huge leap in prize value for the winner, who gets a Nissan 350Z GT worth ?30k!

Good luck MightyJordan. Neowin will be so proud of you if you win. :D

Thanks! :) The only problem I have is getting up to Thorpe Park. My dad will almost certainly drive me up, but his car (a 2000 Chrysler Grand Voyager) is in pretty bad nick. We're getting a new one soon (a Citroen C3 Picasso), but it won't be ready until October now. :( So I've gotta pray that that Yankee hunk of junk will last until October at the least.

That's exactly my point. Mcrae was a WRC driver, and one of the best at that. He drove RALLY, not any of this BS they've made the game into. Tagging his name onto it is a blatant cash in since it really has s**t all to do with actual rallying.

Uh that's not entirely true. I think you may need a little history lesson on McRae yourself :p

Uh that's not entirely true. I think you may need a little history lesson on McRae yourself :p

Alright, so he did the odd lemans or xgames race near the end of his career, so what your saying is he's more well known for those than his ENTIRE CAREER has a hardcore RALLY driver? Please....

No of course not, but the events are in the games because he asked them to be / he took part in them. He even wanted x-games events, but of course he died before the development on DiRT 2 even began so he wasn't there to advise on the route they went.

he would have wanted 'rally' to take centre stage, then some dakar type races + 5-10% of xgames, coz they are fun to race in.

but codeM have done the opposite :p

codeM almost ditched rally, so why retain CM's name? (si's question)

a question not even codeM answer. :laugh:

as i've mentioned earlier, its more ken block/pastrana dirt2 than CM.

shamefully tho, codeM calls it a "tribute" to CM. *******s

Trust me, it pains me more than most that the games have gone this direction, having always been a dedicated CM fan. Especially being a fellow Scot and he didn't live too far from where I stay either. I was just saying that these events were included in the games because he asked them to be, but you're both right, they were never supposed to ever over shadow the rallying. Tbh I already got that feeling from DiRT 1, it certainly felt like there was less rallying than other race types anyway. I've never actually counted and checked..

Not to mention CodeMasters want the game to have a larger pressence in the US and to sell more copies. Dumbed down controls, fireworks, flashy lights and jumps = moth to a flame.

That's unfortunately the road every game these days seem to take. Mainly because it appeals to a larger crowd and that's basically the business-domino effect that most publishers and developers strive for today - Large appeal, more sales, more money, more milking. It's sad ...

i like all the nfs till nfs 6, hated the UG series, mw, ...

[edit; oops forgot the cops]

for the only thing MW had me playing it was the M3 GTR :devil:, the cops , the superb engine sounds & ofcourse the gfx.

nfs ug2 is still liked by many.

just like the fast n furious makers ran out of idea, so did EA to bring a original. lol

EA have learnt **** all. NFS has been terrible since the very beginning of last generation. It's nothing but a boy racers game with cereal box cars.

Oi, there was nothing wrong with NFS Most Wanted. That was the last great NFS game, and I'm confident NFS Shift will be the next great one in the series.

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